GeForce GTX 780M, 770M, And 765M: Scaling Vs. Radeon HD 8970M

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guvnaguy

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Are Optimus or Switchable Graphics available in these systems?With those solutions around, I wish we could start seeing reasonable (>4-5 hr) battery life out of these laptops when not under load.
 

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When will they make mainstream external boxes for these gaming cards? Give it a cheap and fast link to a notebook and price it competitively to the gaming laptops; awesome upgrades like the desktop crowd.
 

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A great place to check GPUs in laptops and laptops in general is notebookcheck.netIts especially important because heat can be a problem in laptops very, very fast.Sure those did not seem to have that problem but ambient temps, as well as dust acumulation are two factors rearly taken into consideration when talking about overheating.
 

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I have seen people buy the kind of laptops that these cards exist in. The main issue with them is that they are often so compromised in one way or another they spend more time getting sent back for repairs and fixes than they do on the owners desk.Like TVR cars, they did more miles strapped on the back of low loaders going to and from Blackpool than actually on its own wheels.
 

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the wife has a MSI i7QM 3630 i believe and a 670mx. It has been over a year and still runs strong. Alpha testing EQNLandmark with her laptop and it runs like a champ on a mix of ultra and high settings. we have not had one issue with it and runs pretty dang cool and quiet for a gaming laptop. not sure what machine the people you have seen Daglesj, but we are very happy with ours.
 

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Wish you included the GT750m SLi available on the Lenovo Y510P. I own said laptop and $ for $ couldn't ask for more, but have no real goal post against the other chips in the Nvidia range.Great to finally see some mobile GRFX chop reviews and look forward to more in the future.
 

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Well, speaking about reliability, I own a alienware m17r4 with a 675m (580m slightly overclocked) never had to be repaired and still running strong. I often use it for gpu rendering tasks which are the equivalent of running furmark for several hours. Cpu never went below the turbo frequency gpu never throttled or got above 70c. The system is one and a half years old now and still kicking :)
 

Blazer1985

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Oh and btw optimus is by default enabled on the above tested systems. You get an astonishingly long battery life with these systems (given the specs)... If you have enough muscles to carry them around :)
 

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What do you mean actual temperature minus ambient? What is the ambient temperature? If it is a 20 celcius then gtx 780m is 92.6 celcius??? That is very hot if it is true!
 

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I like the new twist in the value analysis, where you determine the overall system price at which the different components add the most value. It would be good to see this incorporated into the standard value analysis for desktop components as well.
 

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There seems so little development in the laptop sector, they consistently artificially rig the market to make consumers spend around the £800 mark for anything capable of running pc games (look at the dell revamp of the inspiron 17 which is around the £1000 mark). I know there is the Lenovo but why don't more manufacturers produce machines in a 17.3 form factor with those specs? It seems you have a choice of badly specced machines that are very cheap or really extortionately priced gaming laptops with little in between.
 

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Gaming laptop, there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. The "twist" in the value analysis changes nothing. Hell I could play with numbers to prove that an Intel i7-4960X is a "better value" than an AMD FX-6300 just by dropping it into a $10,000 system. Playing the percentages instead of the actual dollars makes it look better than it actually is because even though the percentage is smaller, it's still a smaller percentage of a larger number and ends up being the same. You say that the 8970M is 33% less expensive while the 780M is 13% faster? Man, you really do know how to screw with numbers don't you? The 780M is indeed 13% faster than the 8970M but it is a FULL 50% MORE EXPENSIVE than the 8970. Why are you trying so hard to word it like nVidia is the better value? No tech journalist is stupid enough to do it by accident!
 

Blazer1985

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The cost of the gpu alone may be 50% more but when you put the whole system into account you may end up paying it 33% more, not 50%. Beside that, this time the price/performance ratio seems to favor amd imho.
 

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I wish the performance of the desktop counterparts would have been added to the charts. or even the desktop PRICE counterparts, so the 780M compared to the 780TI etc.
 

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Blazer1985, what you didn't understand is the difference of point of view between the 2 comparisons. It says "8970M is 33% less expensive // 780M is 13% faster". It should be either :"780M is 50% more expensive // 780M is 13% faster"OR"8970M is 33% less expensive // 8790M is x% slower"
 

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Don't play with numbers! :) 500 to 750 is 50% more expensive, BUT 750 to 500 is 33% less expensive, damn the mathematics!
 

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Honestly you would be silly to pay more than $1400 for a laptop... At that point it will no longer be mobile, and it will just be a desktop with heating issues. Believe me, I have been there...
 

Phillip Wager

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@blackmagnum "When will they make mainstream external boxes for these gaming cards? Give it a cheap and fast link to a notebook and price it competitively to the gaming laptops; awesome upgrades like the desktop crowd." i don't think that it will ever happen. laptops being all proprietary and non upgradeable is what has made them such profitable business over the years they are counting on people throwing away their old ones every three years. i wish it weren't true either.
 

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If you go into value I'd say its also a very important factor how much the performance increase with the huge bump in cpu price, if a significantly cheaper cpu performs marginally worse amd wins in value by a mile.Power usage also means noise so there is that as well.
 

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@sjc1017 In Korea, you can get an MSI laptop with an 8970m for about $1000 (1,100,000 krw @ EmartMall). 4700mq, 120gb 840 ssd, 1tb 7200, 16gb ram, 48cm (18inch). In other words, they charge what they know people are willing to pay.
 
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