News GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Retailer-Listed Specs Look Worse Than RTX 3060 Ti

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Actually, these XX60-class cards can sport more memory. TPU's hardware and database looker (T4C Fantasy) once reckoned that NVIDIA's board partners can opt for larger pools of video memory as well.

T4C Fantasy points out that some AIBs/brands have the option to produce RTX 4060 Ti cards with a larger pool of attached video memory, but launch models will likely stick with the standard allotment of 8 GB of VRAM.

Anyway, for more VRAM, Nvidia will have to make some adjustments to the PCB, and also the bus width. So maybe 12GB and/or 16GB incoming in the form of an RTX 4060 Ti SUPER variant ?

View: https://twitter.com/T4CFantasy/status/1647563989071826944?cxt=HHwWgMDQlYGuqd0tAAAA
 
"So it would be foolish to think that the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti will debut at $399..."

Another tech site is speculating a $449 MSRP (USD), so that of course means AIB partner cards are going to be closer to $500. That is beyond absurd for a card of these specs, starting with the neutering of the memory bus from 256-bit to 128-bit over the 3060 Ti (unknown how much having more L2 cache will make up that difference with higher graphic demands). The specs for this GPU more aligns with what a 4060 should be these days. AMD will be releasing their RX 7600 at some point this summer, so that should be an interesting comparison with both specs and pricing.
 
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Not sure whether this news/rumor is indeed true, but just last month there was a report by DigiTimes (via MyDrivers), which stated that NVIDIA is considering making the pricing of its upcoming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti graphics card more appealing/compelling to gamers.

The reason for this might be due to the poor public demand for the RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4070 graphics cards. So maybe the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti could be launched at the same pricing as its predecessor at $399 US, or roughly 2800 Chinese yuan, though this seems remains to be seen.

Add some salt though..500 USD is really an absurd price for this class of SKU.
 

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$500.. 8GB.. 128bits... will sell regardless, welcome to the world of the du*b. People think fps on a screen is all that matters and for those Nvidia is there to deliver with DLSS3

For the rest of us1080p players the card to get this gen turned out to be the RX6800 (around $375 sh) and for those at 1440p/4K the 6950XT (now at $575 sh)
 

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So half the bus size, which they tried to be propped up by faster ram speeds. The add in less CUDA cores gen over gen, and higher power draw because they cranked the core clock to try to compensate. So less memory bandwidth, same amount of ram, and probably a higher MSRP. Let’s go ahead and call it what it is, the 4060 DOA edition.

Seriously you have two game console options with more ram that both have higher overall bandwidth for what this card will likely cost. Golf clap Nvidia, way to deliver less for more. If this costs more than $399 expect them to rot on shelves right next to the rest of the majority of the 4000 series.
 

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as i said to some one else on here. what IF there are NO games on those 2 consoles that a person wants to play ? then what ? the consoles then look like expensive paper weights and they would just sit there collecting dust
Works other way around as well...and why not both, upgrade GPU for this piece of...something...or get a console, buy some HDMI switch and play whatever you want.
 

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Works other way around as well...and why not both, upgrade GPU for this piece of...something...or get a console, buy some HDMI switch and play whatever you want.
Most games do get released on PC, though. It's only really exclusive titles that do not, like most Nintendo games. So the probability for this to happen is very, very slim.
 
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Actually, these XX60-class cards can sport more memory. TPU's hardware and database looker (T4C Fantasy) once reckoned that NVIDIA's board partners can opt for larger pools of video memory as well.

T4C Fantasy points out that some AIBs/brands have the option to produce RTX 4060 Ti cards with a larger pool of attached video memory, but launch models will likely stick with the standard allotment of 8 GB of VRAM.

Anyway, for more VRAM, Nvidia will have to make some adjustments to the PCB, and also the bus width. So maybe 12GB and/or 16GB incoming in the form of an RTX 4060 Ti SUPER variant ?
They could always just re-use the PCB from the RTX 3080 Ti for a 12GB variant.
"So it would be foolish to think that the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti will debut at $399..."

Another tech site is speculating a $449 MSRP (USD), so that of course means AIB partner cards are going to be closer to $500. That is beyond absurd for a card of these specs, starting with the neutering of the memory bus from 256-bit to 128-bit over the 3060 Ti (unknown how much having more L2 cache will make up that difference with higher graphic demands).
It's only absurd if there aren't enough fools to pay that much. If there are, the pricing is actually correct. In any market, what things cost is a combination of corporate greed and consumer ignorance.
The specs for this GPU more aligns with what a 4060 should be these days. AMD will be releasing their RX 7600 at some point this summer, so that should be an interesting comparison with both specs and pricing.
If AMD wants any chance of the RX 7600 being a success, they're going to have to price it at around $225. With the 10GB RX 7600 going for $280 and the 12GB RX 6700 XT going for $320, who's going to pay more than $225 for an 8GB video card?
I only wish AMD's "perks" (i.e. the nvidia suite of stuff you get along side the card's performance) were comparable to nvidia & that AMD's didnt have issues with emulation like they have.

I seriously would go amd but I do enjoy the suite stuff nvidia has x_x....
There's nothing wrong with that. Someone who actually knows the difference between the brands and actually makes use of said differences should get what suits them best. I only dump on the fools who buy nVidia and then don't use the features because they're flushing their money down the toilet instead of helping to fix the monopolistic state of the market. One could say that buying a Radeon or an Arc would be helping "To bring balance to the force!". :giggle:
Those days are gone. $299 is xx50 pricing today.
If you're lucky... ;)

There are far more RTX 3050's for sale that are above $300 than below.

I wouldn't be too worried though because the RX 7600 XT is going to have to debut at around $225 because if it's more than that, it won't stand a chance against the extant RX 6700 and RX 6700 XT.

Since the RTX xx50 cards are so weak that the special "nVidia features" are essentially irrelevant, the RX 7600 XT could be the lifeline that 1080p gamers need. Really, really, though, the RX 6600 currently selling for $200 is all the lifeline that any 1080p gamer who is satisfied with 8GB of VRAM will need for quite awhile. Hell, you can get in a 2 or even a 3-fan configuration for that:
2-Fan: ASRock Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8GB - $200
3-Fan: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6600 Eagle 8GB - $200

I do question the point of having three fans on the 130W RX 6600 when the 230W RX 6700 XT is fine with only two. If you've got the space in your case for it though, why not? Three fans are always better than two because the card will be cooler, quieter (although in this case I'm sure that even the twin-fan designs are pretty damn quiet already) and they have that third fan for improved redundancy in case one fails. I also think that they look a lot better too (a big reason why my case is a U12-40670).
 
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8GB VRAM is still plenty for todays games. The vast majority of games dont need that much. Are there any games that even exist with 12GB system requirements, most are still 4-6GB and 8 for recommended. No, you wont play Hogwartz at 8K 480FPS Max settings RT on a 4060Ti. But a lot of these high VRAM games are because of poor optimization. Hogwarts runs on a PS4 with 8GB UNIFIED. Yes, its not the prettiest, but they made it work. The responsibility is on game developers to design their games properly. We shouldn't have to all be running 4090's because of poor game development. Any game in which the dev put in the time and effort for optimization should have no problem with 8GB now, and into the near future. If 16GB was the standard like a lot of people are claiming, and NVidia actually went with that, the next XX50 card would be $899 lol. It would be insane. a 60 tier card does not need 12GB. what they did on the 3060 was stupid. They even made a 2060 12GB. Stupid, and totally unnecessary. 12GB shouldn't start until XX70, and thats where we are at. There is nothing wrong with 8GB at 60Ti, 60, and 50Ti. 50 at 6GB. VRAM isn't cheap and the cost is passed onto the consumer. You dont want more expensive GPUs do you? If games are properly optimized, even the latest games would run fine on 8GB VRAM at 1080p max settings, RT, 120FPS, with the help of DLSS. Your 60Ti's would work just fine and we can all have semi-affordable GPUs. Its optimization that's the problem
 
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Most games do get released on PC, though. It's only really exclusive titles that do not, like most Nintendo games. So the probability for this to happen is very, very slim.
No you don't get it, if you have something in your PC case and can play some type of games already with that (like grand strategies that don't need much GPU power, most online shooters, eSports, MMOs,...) and want to play some new AAA games then getting 500€ GPU or whole new console for that is a no brainer, sadly most PC users are not not able to think outside their box. Upgrading to 500€ new GPU with 8 gigs of ram just does not make much sense, no matter how PCMR fanboys try to spin it the consoles and GPUs do affect each other.
 

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I would be amazed if it was cheaper than $499 given Nvidia's current pricing stategy. Looks like the core clock boost will allow it to outperform the 3060Ti despite the drop in CUDA cores etc and the massive bandwidth drop. I suspect that it will be a narrow win of <20% at 1440p tho.
 
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Those days are gone. $299 is xx50 pricing today.
Not really the xx50 is $349 at least, you might get one below $300 on offer or after it's been out >9months but I would be amazed if the 4050 was below $350 (nvidia might even go $449 for the 4060 and $399 for the 4050 and blame inflation)
 
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So half the bus size, which they tried to be propped up by faster ram speeds. The add in less CUDA cores gen over gen, and higher power draw because they cranked the core clock to try to compensate. So less memory bandwidth, same amount of ram, and probably a higher MSRP. Let’s go ahead and call it what it is, the 4060 DOA edition.

Seriously you have two game console options with more ram that both have higher overall bandwidth for what this card will likely cost. Golf clap Nvidia, way to deliver less for more. If this costs more than $399 expect them to rot on shelves right next to the rest of the majority of the 4000 series.
I agree but the fact is nVidia don't need gamers, they have loads of AI business at massively larger margins, they consider they are doing gamers a favour selling them GPUs at less than $2k. They will continue like this and maybe get even worse as as much as we hate it their job is to maximise profit and the best way to do that is to sell a AI card at $50k not a GPU at $500.
 
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No you don't get it, if you have something in your PC case and can play some type of games already with that (like grand strategies that don't need much GPU power, most online shooters, eSports, MMOs,...) and want to play some new AAA games then getting 500€ GPU or whole new console for that is a no brainer, sadly most PC users are not not able to think outside their box. Upgrading to 500€ new GPU with 8 gigs of ram just does not make much sense, no matter how PCMR fanboys try to spin it the consoles and GPUs do affect each other.
This is spot on, the sad part is when your old GPU dies and you have a CPU with no integrated graphics, then you have to cashout some 500 usd or more for something thats barely an upgrade on your 6 or 3 years old GPU. cause yes 10XX Nvidia cards still do the job and quite good considering the asking price for anything the past 3 years.