GeForce4 Ruined?

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I recently overclocked my PNY GeForce 4 Ti4200 to 300/600. All the benchmarking went good and the card was running real cool. I had a 80 mm fan blowing it. Now every 30 minutes or so, I get a short flicker in the screen about halfway down the screen on the sides of the monitor for about 1 second. I have tried different drivers and it still does it. Could have I damaged my card? I am 99.9% sure its not the monitor because it started just after I overclocked my card. The card is at default speed and still doing it.
 

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Make sure your monitor is set to at least 100MHz refresh rate try that and see if it clears up.

Also use Coolbits in the computer registry and you can gain access to the clock speeds for the card right in the card settings Coolbits ads that access into the drivers package and you could use the set to defaults option and reset the card to factory speeds.

If your not sure about Coolbits let me know I can type out directions on how to do it you dont need any software. It is all done in the computer registry.

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I used Powerstrip to overclock my card. When done benchmarking I clicked "return to default speed." I would like to know how to use Coolbits though. I am unsure how to use it.
 

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100MHz refresh rate for a monitor? WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?! Most average modern monitors don't even go to 100<b>Hz</b> at 1024x768. Also, if he's at 300/600 with a Ti4200, you can bet that he already has access to his clock speeds and therefore does not need Coolbits (if he doesn't have it already).

I know my monitor doesn't go above 85Hz at any resolution...so what would I do if I had that problem?? Oh yeah, what if he were running an LCD monitor??

Davemar: it sounds like you minorly damaged your card. If it only pops up for 1 second out of every 30 min, I wouldn't worry at all.

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The default settings for a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 card are exactly that 1024x768 at 100MHz and most modern monitors are 100MHz supportable.

First you presume that he is working at 1024x768 then you forget you don't know [-peep-] about GeForce cards because you don't own one and I do and 3rd he could be using other software like nforce drivers to overclock his card from the sounds of the settings he is using or Powerstrip.
And the fourth thing you did not think of is if he does not know about Coolbits then he wont be able to set his card back to default factory settings and that is exactly what he was looking for and asked help with.

And finally Vapor you worthless piece of cowardly ape [-peep-] no one was giving him any help until I did so go smoke your crack in your little ignorant corner since you cant contribute here accept to blow cocaine up your nose.

Oh by the way Vapour most people can afford monitors like my SAMSUNG SyncMaster 955df it is not our fault you live in a trailer park and only own monitors you find in the other peoples trash and tape power cords onto. You so obviously have no education and no money that I feel sorry for you.

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Ah ok as I guessed Dave or you would have set your stuff back to factory settings by now. Do not under any circumstances listen to Vapour that whore is the jack ass of Toms Hardware Guide a real loser.

OK you go to your operating system registry by hitting START/RUN then typing in REGEDIT after that you will be in the computer registry.

In the Registry Editor look for the line that reads HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE open the plus sign up next to it then look for the SOFTWARE line and open the plus sign up next to it.

Now scroll down until you find the NVIDIA CORPORATION folder and open the plus sign up next to it. Now open the + sign next to the Global folder and then look for the NVTweak folder and OPEN that folder.
Now that you have that folder open look at the top of the Editor for the EDIT TAB and open it until you can see the option for NEW Follow the ---> to the right and select DWORD Value and select that.

Now on the right side of the editor you will see a new folder created with a blinking curser in it just like making a new folder type the name Coolbits then hit Enter.

Now you have a new Folder/Registry key called Coolbits, ok one last thing right click on the Coolbits folder and select MODIFY and change the 0 to a 3 Hexadecimal and that's it you are done close the Registry up and go back to your desktop.

Now when you go into your properties for your graphics card you will see to apparent changes one of them is the EXTRA 3D option available in the 3D section of the card a good setting for that is AUTO SELECT and 3 default up to 12 Frames ahead but do not play with that until you get the card fixed.

The most important thing you are looking for is the Clock Settings option on the left of the list you will now have full access to.

At this point uninstall PowerStrip from ADD REMOVE Programs and reboot the Computer after you get back to the desktop go into the Graphics cards settings and select to set enable overclocking frequencies it might yet again ask for a restart that is ok do it.

As you again get back to the card set-up go into the clock frequencies and set the clock speeds to DEFAULT SETTINGS test them if it asks first then APPLY them then RE-BOOT the computer right away.

This final time back at the desktop you should have the card set back to default settings. and Hopefully your flickering from the Clock changes you made with Powerstrip will go away.

If you are running you monitor at 60MHz at 1024x768 make sure the check mark is in place that hides monitor refresh rates your monitor does not support if the 100 MHz option is still available select 100MHz if it is not do not force it to 100 MHz or you will lose Monitor Picture and that is a whole over thing to fix in computer safe mode.

If you do not have the key-code for powerstrip and do not want to remove it totally from your system because you cant reload it correctly then go into MSCONFIG and turn the check box off that loads it at start-up or use the setting in the software that prevents it from loading.

If at a later date you want to try your Powerstrip again at careful settings I have a Great Copy of the program and I also wrote a nice little patch that makes it full version. My email is nolnighthawk@rogers.com if you would like a copy.

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First of all, <b><i><font color=red>NO</font color=red></i></b> monitor supports a 100MHz refresh rate...let alone 'most modern monitors.'

Second of all, the monitor generally determines the default settings for refresh rate, if the graphics card decided--then lots of people wouldn't have anything displayed on their screen.

Also, since when do I not own a GeForce?!?! WTF!!!...<b><font color=red>I OWN TWO!!!!</b></font color=red> (one old GeForce 2 GTS and a Ti4400 that I'm currently using with dead/dying memory). They're the only non-integrated cards I've ever owned!!

If he is overclocking at all, you can bet that he can EASILY set the clock speeds back down to stock: it's typically just a slider away! With RivaTuner I know for a fact that switching to factory settings is a check-box click away (or you could turn the sliders down to stock speeds as I said before)...pretty sure it's the same for Powerstrip and I know it's the same for Coolbits--I used to use it.

Most people can afford a Samsung SyncMaster?? Where did you get that statistic from?!?!? Half the world makes less money in a month than what one of those costs, and frankly, those who do have computers are likely content with their Dell or Gateway monitor. Only a small percentage of people really think about upgrading to a Samsung Syncmaster...it's not even the best out there--though it is good.

I know I sure as hell could buy 20 of them if they were good enough, but they aren't and therefore I have no reason...my monitor and my eyes are perfectly happy at 1600x1200 at 75Hz on my three year-old 19" IBM monitor. My second monitor is an older IBM 17" that only goes to 1280x1024 @ 75Hz...I see no reason to upgrade them other than to get identical monitors (different sizes and resolutions are somewhat bitchy, IMO).

Generally, rich people also have LCDs...and those will <b>never</b> hit the 100MHz refresh rate (or even a 100Hz for a few years) you said above, essentially negating anything you said about rich people getting a better, more modern monitor that supports 100Hz refresh rate. Most people are tending to lean toward LCDs, usually held-back by price.

BTW, I'm not poor...at all. I don't live in a trailer park, I don't go through the trash, I don't take peoples' old anything, I have a tremendous education for someone my age...and oh yeah, I have money, lots of money.

One last thing, if I did cocaine, how could I be poor?? Do you have ANY idea how much that stuff costs?!

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I have plenty of cash and I love to go through old computer junk. You'd be amazed at the nifty things you can find in an old alpha server. I've got more fans than I know what to do with...

Which reminds me: I found six monstrous 40 volt 120mm full metal(the fins are metal and very sharp, always carefull around the things.) just the other day. Now the only thing left to do is figure out what to do with the damn things...



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Vapour give me your email I will take a print screen of the desktop settings a nice BMP and I will change it to a 200kb JPG so I can fianly show you both my card settings and my monitor running @ 1024x768 full 32 bit color @ 100MHz

Man I do not know what garbage you use for computer hardware but if you cant get a simple 100MHz refresh rate at 1024x768 jeeze in fact I think my Mad Onion bench marks even say the card and monitor settings at 1024x768 @ Mon 100MHz if you want to see proof email me your address I will send you the original bmp picture if you want so you can see the values for your own self.

God I ran my old IBM Aptivia 475MHz cpu on an IBM 17" Monitor 5 years ago on a Voodoo4 at 100MHz since I game I always run my monitors at 100MHz.

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Here: <A HREF="mailto:jhassett@exeter.edu">jhassett@exeter.edu</A>. I'm frankly astonished that even KHz have been hit for fv, let alone MHz...I really don't have any reason to believe that such insanely high refresh rates are in existence; show me I'm wrong. I know many monitors can run 100Hz...but not at a desirable resolution, IMHO.

I run both my monitors at max resolution and max refresh rates for that resolution. TMK, there is NO monitor that can run at 100Hz at it's max resolution (classification: max res >= 1600x1200). It's not even until you get into the $600 USD range do you find 2048x1536 monitors that can do 100Hz at 1600x1200. The two Mitsubishis that I'm looking to pickup do 1920x1440 @ 92Hz or 2048x1536 @ 86Hz...which isn't bad, except the price: $650ish USD each, but I've used the older model for quite some time--it's very nice, still not sure if it's worth it (I actually never really thought much of refresh rates, anything greater than 68Hz is enough for me, I picked these for resolution, color, and text clarity).

I had an IBM Aptiva 450MHz PIII and a different 17" monitor about five years ago...integrated graphics card though, I was kinda young for serious gaming. My monitor never went up to 100Hz (definitely not 100MHz), IIRC. Oh well, send me the BMPs or whatever format you want, I'm on a big T3. I really want to see this 100MHz refresh rate. Hey, maybe you should add the 100MHz refresh rate to your sig.

Oh yeah, how exactly does a 100Hz refresh rate fix screen corruption/artifacts?

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There's no place in my area that has old stuff...some of it is really cool, other parts are useless, IMO. I wish I had more access to my money so that I could spend more on computers and do stuff like that

How much noise and air do those make??

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Lots of both. Less noise than some.
The real problem is the voltages. Hook them up on the regular 12v line and they become almost useless. And making a 40v line involves more time than I have. One of these days...
I could of course buy something, but thats no fun and takes away from my beer fund.

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Specs on your monitor would help clear this argument up a bit. What is your monitor capable of? I agree that refresh rate doesn't do anything about screen artifacts, but you may not notice the flicker if you crank it up as high as you possibly can.

My monitor does 120Hz at 1024 x 768, 100Hz at 1280 x 1024 (my desktop res) and 85Hz at 1600 x 1200... all nice and flicker-free. Maxing out your refresh rate may help eliminate the flicker... or at least make it less noticable.



PS: As usual, SoD, you really have to think before you type. Monitors aren't capable of a <b>1</b>MHz refresh rate, let alone 100Mhz. Instead of trying to be disagreeable, why don't you just admit it when you're wrong?

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PS: As usual, SoD, you really have to think before you type. Monitors aren't capable of a 1MHz refresh rate, let alone 100Mhz. Instead of trying to be disagreeable, why don't you just admit it when you're wrong?
You go Zoron! I have had the "pleasure" of being on the other end of SoD rantings before, like Vapor just was. I thought Canadiens were a peaceful, loving people?
 

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hahaha, I once had a guy come in (at Office Depot) and tell me he was looking for PC133 RAM. After about ten minutes of confusion I realized his description LOOKED like a 72-pin SIMM, PERFORMED like DDR RAM, but was CALLED PC133, I was sure glad he corrected me.....riiight buddy, we got that kind of RAM right over there by the exit......no man........the OTHER side of the exit (well, maybe I just WANTED to say that)
 

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Right now I am at 800x600 and 60Hz refresh rate. Also to clarify things, the card is clocked back down to stock. Duh, if I can overclock, I can clock it back down.
 

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SoD told him to download Coolbits so that he could bring the clockspeed back down to factory settings.

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Alright, got the screenshots...your stupdity shows once again. Your refresh rate is at 100 M/Hertz...not MHz! For future reference: M = Hertz = Hz =/= MHz.

Glad that got cleared up.

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