[SOLVED] get confused choosing i3 10100 with 3200 Mhz Rams

[hamzaech]

Hello
I want to get i3 10100 with 3200 Mhz Rams even though i already know that the processor support 2666 Mhz as maximum. I want to go for 3200 Mhz Rams because later I intend to upgrade the CPU from intel to Ryzen, so if I got 2666 Mhz Rams i'd then buy new 3200 Mhz Rams for my next ryzen-based built. so as you can see there is no need to spend money on Rams for the second time.
My question is : If I got i3 10100 with 3200 Mhz Rams, would that be harmful for the built and consume power more than 2666 Mhz, would my i3 10100-based built system benefit from the entire 3200 Mhz Rams ? Guys, if you have any additional details leave them below.
Thank you

 

[mamasan2000]

On the i3, you might be able to run 3200 Mhz but that requires an expensive Z-series motherboard. And Ryzen (other than 1st gen, 1000-series) likes 3600 Mhz RAM. Why go for an i3 to begin with? Get some cheap Ryzen CPU and a decent motherboard (X570/B550) and 3600 Mhz RAM.

 

[Eximo]

Seems a waste to get a 10100 and board

On the i3, you might be able to run 3200 Mhz but that requires an expensive Z-series motherboard. And Ryzen (other than 1st gen, 1000-series) likes 3600 Mhz RAM. Why go for an i3 to begin with? Get some cheap Ryzen CPU and a decent motherboard and 3600 Mhz RAM.

B560 boards can overclock memory as well, however, the CPU will still limit it regardless. i5 models would let you do 3200Mhz.

 

[Eximo]

Seems a waste to get a 10100 only to toss it. Why not get a cheaper Ryzen and something like a B450 board to tide you over. Then you can drop a 5600X into later (Though you would be on PCIe 3.0)

That or go ahead and invest in a 11400F or the like, get PCIe 4.0 and a direct competitor to the 5600X for a little less.

You will certainly spend more buying two systems in a relatively short period vs just saving up a little more money.

 

[hamzaech]

On the i3, you might be able to run 3200 Mhz but that requires an expensive Z-series motherboard. And Ryzen (other than 1st gen, 1000-series) likes 3600 Mhz RAM. Why go for an i3 to begin with? Get some cheap Ryzen CPU and a decent motherboard (X570/B550) and 3600 Mhz RAM.

i can't go for ryzen because i need IGPU for Photoshop, illustrator,InDesign and don't want G CPU like 3200g,3400g , because i was told such cpus are not that good and can't afford the price to take dedicated gpu. So for these reason i decided to go for i3 10100 despite ryzen igpu are better than those of intel

 

[hamzaech]

i can't go for ryzen because i need IGPU for Photoshop, illustrator,InDesign and don't want G CPU like 3200g,3400g , because i was told such cpus are not that good and can't afford the price to take dedicated gpu. So for these reason i decided to go for i3 10100 despite ryzen igpu are better than those of intel

i5 10400 supports only up to 2666 mhz

 

[Flayed]

You can buy 3200Mhz ram and set it to run at 2666Mhz in the bios if you want too.
I would just get some 2666Mhz CL15 ram for an i3-10100 though

 

[Joseph_138]

Seems a waste to get a 10100 and board


B560 boards can overclock memory as well, however, the CPU will still limit it regardless. i5 models would let you do 3200Mhz.

Are you sure about the i5? Steve at Gamers Nexus, as well as others, have repeatedly said that the 10400 is limited to 2666 by Intel on anything other than a Z motherboard. It is on on die limitation that Intel imposed on the 10400 to encourage gamers to buy a 10600K or an i7/i9. There has to be a big enough gap in performance between the cheapest and most expensive i5 to justify making the upgrade, otherwise most people would just buy the 10400 and be happy with it. People have to be made unhappy with something before they will spend more money on a part with a higher margin of profit.

I am wondering, though, if there is a pin on the 10400 that tells the chipset not to run faster memory, that you might be able to block to make it run the faster memory like the old BSEL tape mod on the Q6600 that kicked it up to 3.0ghz. How else would the chipset know to lock out the faster memory timings without a signal from the CPU?

 

[AlexTheFern]

Are you sure about the i5? Steve at Gamers Nexus, as well as others, have repeatedly said that the 10400 is limited to 2666 by Intel on anything other than a Z motherboard. It is on on die limitation that Intel imposed on the 10400 to encourage gamers to buy a 10600K or an i7/i9. There has to be a big enough gap in performance between the cheapest and most expensive i5 to justify making the upgrade, otherwise most people would just buy the 10400 and be happy with it. People have to be made unhappy with something before they will spend more money on a part with a higher margin of profit.

I am wondering, though, if there is a pin on the 10400 that tells the chipset not to run faster memory, that you might be able to block to make it run the faster memory like the old BSEL tape mod on the Q6600 that kicked it up to 3.0ghz. How else would the chipset know to lock out the faster memory timings without a signal from the CPU?

the people above were talking about the 11400, not the 10400, which is it's 11th gen version of that cpu. the 11400 is a solid processor and is also pretty cheap. It supports ddr4 3200mhz

 

[geofelt]

To answer your question, buying faster ram than you can currently support is not harmful.
The ram will simply run at the lower speed that is supported.
Some have gone this route because the faster kit was actually cheaper.
Of course the ram must be a dual stick kit to get proper speeds.

I can't imagine that abandoning a i3-10100 within a year or two and needing to buy a new motherboard is a good idea.
I have built two pc's using the i3-10100 and I can tell you that it is a very quick processor.
I used 2666 speed.
Here is a review:

Intel Core i3-10100 Review - Affordable 4c/8t

Intel's Core i3-10100 is the most affordable Comet Lake "Core" processor. Unlike its predecessor, it finally has HyperThreading, which brings the core configuration to 4c/8t. Our Core i3-10100 review takes a close look at how Intel's new budget offering performs against AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and 3300X.

www.techpowerup.com

In a year or so, both intel and amd will have new processors and whatever we think is great today will be old news.

Buy now what you will need now and for the next two years.

 

[Joseph_138]

the people above were talking about the 11400, not the 10400, which is it's 11th gen version of that cpu. the 11400 is a solid processor and is also pretty cheap. It supports ddr4 3200mhz

The OP was talking about the 10th generation i3, so the assumption should be that 10th gen is what is in his budget.

 

[dorsai]

Hello
I want to get i3 10100 with 3200 Mhz Rams even though i already know that the processor support 2666 Mhz as maximum. I want to go for 3200 Mhz Rams because later I intend to upgrade the CPU from intel to Ryzen, so if I got 2666 Mhz Rams i'd then buy new 3200 Mhz Rams for my next ryzen-based built. so as you can see there is no need to spend money on Rams for the second time.
My question is : If I got i3 10100 with 3200 Mhz Rams, would that be harmful for the built and consume power more than 2666 Mhz, would my i3 10100-based built system benefit from the entire 3200 Mhz Rams ? Guys, if you have any additional details leave them below.
Thank you

There's no harm running faster memory as long as it's compatible with the motherboard...worst case scenario is you'll be limited in the speed it will run in your current setup. Officially supported CPU memory speeds are more of a guideline than a rule and most people that build systems themselves will run ram faster than what the CPU claims to support as it mostly depends on motherboard BIOS support more so than CPU support. As long as you're comfortable setting ram timings and voltage manually in the BIOS (and your motherboard allows it) you should be good to go...if you're not then it might be best to wait until you upgrade the CPU.