Getting lower FPS than i should with my 2 460 GTX SLI setup

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I had another thread where i was asking for help with a number of things, i was asking for upgrades. Before i can upgrade anything i need to get it all running properly tho.
So basically my fps is really low when compared to similar setups.

Im running the following setup

Case: Haf 912 mid tower ATX case, with a billion different fans installed 😛
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZM7YTA

Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X58
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00407ZUUY

CPU: Intel Core I7 950 i believe its called
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002A6G3V2
Im using a Corsair H60 cooling system for my cpu, was hoping i would learn how to overclock after everything is working properly
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MYFOE2

Ram: 12 gigs of DDR3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LZ1FPG

Graphics: 2 Nvidia 460 GTX video cards in SLI mode.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWZEBY

Soundcard: Creative XiFi fatality championship edition
http://www.amazon.com/Express-Blaster-Titanium-Fatal1ty-Champion/dp/B001BDPLJA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312672047&sr=1-1

Hard Drives: A mix of 5600 RPM hard drives using sata, and 2 raided Crucial Technology 128 GB Crucial RealSSD C300 SSD drives that i need help with.
OS: Win7 64 bit
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039SM0AS

PSU: Tuniq Ripper 1000W Power Supply, model PSU-RIP1000-BK

Using 3 samsung monitors all using 1920X1080 resolution, with an extra view sonic monitor that i use for 3d gaming. Im not running any form of nvidia surround or resolution above 1920X1080.

I was running a test someone recommended to see how my computer is handling my games.
Heres what i found.

Using battlefield bad co 2 i found that on average with max settings and resolution would get around 25 fps. I saw it drop to 19, and the peak was 30. When it dropped it was usually when a lot of particle effects were going off, like dust kicking up from explosions.
I tried running my nvidia 3d vision and only got 1-2 fps.
Checking my windows gadget, i was seeing my cpu at around 20-30%, and the ram was around 40-50%.

Heres a link to compare to where they tested using bad co 2.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/26/geforce_gtx_460_sli_performance_vs_amd_gpus/

I then tried messing around with crysis 2. I found that i would get on average about 30-35 fps. I saw my fps drop no lower than 22 fps, and it peaked at 51 fps.
Again i was using max setting, but i didnt have the dx 11 tessellation pack, nor did i download the high res texture pack.

Heres another person running the game with a similar setup.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/26/geforce_gtx_460_sli_performance_vs_amd_gpus/

I then tried red faction armageddon. I had a very inconsistent frame rate, that would fluctuate a lot but heres what i found. Peak of 33 fps, lowest was 5 fps, on average about 22.8 fps. It would be consistent but would jump around from 20, 25, n 30 fps for the most part.

Lastly i tried arma II project arrowhead which is also mentioned in the link i posted earlier where they tested battlefield bad co 2.
The game was far too complicated to pick up and play so i mainly went thru all the opening scenes of the expansions campaign with max settings, which used in game graphics and then got to where i touch down and shoot the first few enemies. After that i ran into some problems with the controls so i stopped.

I was getting 20 fps for a bit, then 17, 26, 22, 24, and a steady 30 for a bit. On average i think thats about 23.16 fps. I hit a low point of 10 fps and a peak of 39 fps.

I believe i forgot to adjust the field of view if that was a setting in game, so i may be wrong in saying that every settings was maxed.

Any ideas on what may be wrong? I know the cards are running in sli mode.

I dont know everything i should or would want to know about computers, so if you need me to run any more tests ill gladly put in any work to get this stuff setup properly.

-Thanks for your time.


Link to the thread i started discussing all this in:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/316040-31-questions-computer-setup#
 
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The first thing that comes to my mind
ist that you are driving alot of monitors at high resolutions
try turning off the monitors through windows screen resolution under right click on desktop
just run with one screen with the others turned off
I will bet your FPS jumps bigtime

I run two screens off of a HD 5670
and when I game I disable my second monitor
same with benching
even if the game is only on one monitor
graphics power is being used to drive the other ones

Just my opinion
I could be wrong.....
 
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Yeah i believe i mentioned it, ill try without all those extra monitors, someone told me it that last thread that i shouldnt need to worry about doing that.

The thing is i want to be able to have all my monitors running with any of those games at max setting with 60 fps in 3d. I do a lot of multi tasking, you probably wouldnt believe me if i told you all the stuff im doing. Yes its not necessary the way i go about it but its the best way for me to get things done.

I was originally trying to get an idea of what i need to upgrade but we wanted to solve the gpu problem first.

Im about to try the games again and see what fps i get, but i need to close all my windows and extra stuff.
 
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I might start running in surround mode then, but it says in the nvidia control panel that sli is enabled.

I wanna be able to run at least 3 monitors so would that mean i need to get 3 video cards to run in sli?

As for video cards im only gonna go with nvidia but no clue which one i should get, i need something that will last me years to come with 3 monitors in nvidia 3d surround, with max graphics in any game that will be released within the next to years. I can always buy the cards 1 at a time over time.

So heres what i got after testing 3 games, ill update this post once im done testing red faction armageddon

Battlefield Bad Co 2 single player: 46 peak fps, dropped to 17 fps once, on average 33.7 fps, at 28 fps running 3d dropped it to 2-3 fps.

ARMA II Project Arrowhead Campaign: Durring scenes with in game graphics where i could look around, 60 fps peak, 15 fps low, 31.6 fps average. Durring gameplay, 38 peak fps, 15 fps low, and 24.19 average fps. In 3D fps dropped from 26 fps non 3d down to 13 fps in 3d.

Crysis 2 again with out tessellation or high res packs in campaign: 54 peak fps, 32 fps low, 38.75 average fps, and when at 45 fps enabling 3d dropped it to 30 fps.

Red Faction Armageddon single player: 60 peak fps, 23 fps low, 36 average fps, and from 33 fps down to 5 fps when switchin to 3d then 15 fps (3d).
 
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Battlefield BC2 - old numbers peak 30 avg 25 low 19
new numbers peak 46 avg 33 low 17

just looking at the one game the OPs avg went up 8 FPS
and peak went up 16 FPS
so there definitley was an improvement though I dont know how that
compares to other 460 SLI setups
(edit)
looking at the link the OP provided for BC2
those numbers are low depending on settings

@OP what was your settings when you tested BC2?
 
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the thing is i only wanna run nvidia 3d surround with 3 3d 120 hz 120 fps monitors, but thats gonna take some time to save up for. In the mean time ill just be using 1 monitor for 1920X1080, but i need to use my other 2 if not 3 monitors. So thats why i asked if i want to run 3 monitors not in a surround setup would i need 2 or 3 cards?

Man i wish i did this research before i bought these stupid led monitors, and invested 2 grand in this stupid computer... gotta love the terrible advice ppl give you and rave about lol

So any ideas on what i can try to figure out how to get better performance out of my rig? Will disconnecting the cables from the slave gpu actually help? Should i try just unplugging my 4th monitor and then running the 3 in a surround setup to see if my performance increases?

As for what im trying to do what upgrade do you guys think i need? I was hoping to get 1 extremely nice video card and then 1 cheap slave if possible to run my other monitor(s) for now. Otherwise i might just stick with my current setup and get a motherboard that can support 3 vid cards. cpu ram and hard drive wise i think im doing fine. You guys think i should run any tests to see if my cpu is up to the task of what im wanting to do in the future?
 
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You shouldn't have to unplug them, it should disable for you them when you click maximize 3d performance and then hit apply. You dont need an upgrade, it's not like you can game on 4 screens and you can always shut off SLI when you want to use all 4, you just need to figure out how to use the Nvidia control panel.
 
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according to Proximon's link
you would need 3 GPUs to run 3 monitors in non surround desktop mode
so you are looking at a mobo that can support Tri-SLI

and to run 3d surround you would have to look at getting better video cards
something like sli 570s or better to be playing at higher settings


but again right now if you are playing BC2 at 1920x1080 high settings
your FPS looks lower than other SLI 460 rigs from article OP linked

so that is still an issue
 
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sounds like good advice to me
 
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I have SLI 465s which should perform similar to 460s and I'm getting like 80 fps in BFBC2, so something definately isn't working right.

And Proximon's link is only for SLI, I can run 4 screens on my setup, just not with SLI enabled.
 
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OP listen to benski
since they have the essentially the same rig as you
 
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Hey guys, just had a long day. Finished reading your posts. Did i test out the games with just the one monitor? Yeah i believe i did, and so my fps are still showing up low?

I dont get why my nvidia panel tells me im using sli when im not. Ill try one of those games again when i get a chance after using the adjust performance for 3d button or what ever its called in the nvidia control panel.

I can try running the setup with the monitors unplugged like u guys mentioned. Ill just try using the one in the main gpu not the slave and then maximize for 3d in the panel and give it another go.

Is there anywhere else i should go to adjust my settings? Ive started using a non changing background cuz i noticed windows aero always had a spike of fps lag in games when ever it changed backgrounds.

Any benchmarking that i should try?

Anyways jumping ahead a bit, so im asuming that if i want that full 3d surround setup rockin im a need a new motherboard that supports 3 gpu sli, then im gonna need 3 570s am i correct? Will i be needing to up my ram, HDDs or anything else? CPU maybe?

Thanks again 😀
 
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