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Yes, it's that simple ... as long as everything goes to plan. Do (for the
third time) remember to remove any no blur patch you have. And have a quick
check in the other games folders for any files you might have installed (the
main one is in the Config folder where you find the most common no-blur
patch but you might find stuff elsewhere - I think some global or hack files
went in Collections, for instance). It depends on what you've added to the
game - personally I keep track of all that stuff. Once installed, you can
then put the Downloads back
BUT
first you might want to check out your Objects with SimPE - there's a FAQ on
the site that tells you how to use SimPE to update any objects that are not
University compatible. Don't try to update anything else (e.g. skins), ONLY
OBJECTS. Objects that aren't compatible will generally not crash your game,
they just turn blue.
If, when you put the Downloads folder back, your game crashes, the first
thing to winkle out would be hacks, especially career hacks. Most people
prefer to take out the whole Downloads folder completely and put it back a
bit at a time till they find a batch of files that crashes the game, then
they take out and put back individual files from the batch till they find
the bad one. The first thing I'd do though would be use Clean Installer to
scan the Downloads folder for hacks - they show up in red - and take those
out first and see if it runs. If it doesn't, THEN you take out the whole
lot and put them back a bit at a time.
You might want to back up your neighbourhoods before you install. The
easiest way to do this is simply copy the whole EA Games folder from My
Documents and put the copy somewhere safe. That's assuming you have room on
your hard drive. This action will also back up your Downloads folder too,
assuming you haven't removed it already.
Finally, if you use hacks and want to use them with University, you will
find that many work with the Expansion just fine. There are several that
caused problems however. The biggest culprit was the careers because Maxis
changed the coding in the part of the programme that deals with careers -
remember the expansion adds several new career paths and the option to enter
careers at higher levels than the first. But others cause problems too in
various ways. Some seem to work but prevent various aspects of the new
expansion appearing in the game. I discovered that the nudist-simple hacks
don't work because they hack into the pie menus of the sims and so the new
EP items in the pie menu (e.g. 'go to class', 'go to final exam' and 'call'
(using the cell phone)) don't appear. Anyway, the best thing to do is check
out and see if there are new versions of the hacks you like. Many hack
creators are updating their hacks to work with the expansion - including the
careers, I believe, and I'm also waiting on a new nudist hack.
If you take all these precautions and the thing still doesn't bloody work,
then 1. you're unlucky and 2. a fresh install will probably be your best
option (it should work then). Don't, BTW, attempt to copy back your saved
neighbourhood files once you've installed Uni. The installation of the EP
changes the organisation of the folders and updates some files and copying
back the old ones will really ah heck things up. Once you have a good
install those back up files become redundant - you only need them if things
go horribly wrong (do ask again if you need to reinstate your families and
neighbourhoods in a fresh install). Finally, when you install you will be
asked where you want to put the installation - DON'T be tempted to stick it
in the same place as the original game. The default location which comes up
during installation is not the same address as your existing files (as you
will see if you check). I stuck mine in the EA Games folder on my D drive -
alongside the original game but not in the same folder. So I have two
folders, one for The Sims 2 and one for the Sims 2 University within that EA
Games folder. The game needs two parallel installations of the game (they
share some files and folders so it's not the big space waster that it
sounds). It tells you this IN THE MANUAL. Most people go with the default
location and that's fine - it's only people like me who put the game
somewhere other than the default location that need to think hard about
this.
Good luck and report back
Best wishes
Maxon
"Cuthbert Gurdlestone" <chgurdlestone1154@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4266F16C.70902@earthlink.net...
> Maxon wrote:
> > Well, with mine it just got to the bit where it wants to apply the
patch,
> > said it was checking whether the game was patched or not, then said it
was
> > patched already and so it was going on to the next bit. So, it didn't
apply
> > a 'with University EP' patch at all. I think most of the time, if
people
> > were having issues, it was because they hadn't removed hacks from their
> > games - particularly career hacks - and also any 'remove the blur'
patches
> > both of which would cause the installation to go seriously awry. I
removed
> > my Downloads folder and the No Blur patch before I installed and
everything
> > was fine. My aim was to present the installation programme with the
game as
> > it was originally installed (as far as that was possible) - in other
words,
> > exactly the thing the installation programme was expecting to see and
was
> > designed for.
>
> So you're saying it's as simple as moving the downloads folder somewhere
> else and then installing University?
>
> Can I then put the downloads folder back into the game per usual?
>
>
> --
> --Cuth
>
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