GF 4 4200 vs. 4600

[ZeuSueZ]

Hi all,

I'm planing to buy myself a new gfx, and I've decided that I'm gonna buy a GF 4 and then oc it..but; are the cores in GF 4 4200, 4400 & 4600 the same, just with different gpu/ram clock, or is there a difference in the chips?

The real question then is can I buy a GF 4 4200 and make it run like a 4600???? with proper cooling of course...here in Denmark, I can save around 100-150 $ if I buy the cheap model and oc it =)

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[10GHZ]

yep, all the Ti's uses the same core but with different clock speed. when nvidia makes the chip, they test the chip at differnt frequency .the ones that 's able to run at higher clock speed are getting the Ti4600 , the average ones are the 4400 and the lower potential ones are 4200.
same with the memory chip.
u might be able to run the Ti4200 @ 4600 level, but that's for short term any way, the chances are very slim for u 2 get BOTH gpu/memory to run at that kind of frequency. it's better off to get the card run at the 4400 level.

OR u can buy a 4400 and get it to run as high as the 4600.

 

[ZeuSueZ]

Ok - then I learned something today, so your suggestion would be to buy a 4400 and oc it to 4600 rather than buy the really cheap 4200.

Another question I have - what are the default clocks from Nivida (gpu/ram) in the 3 different cores? I'm well aware that for eksample ASUS tweaks their cores a little extra =)

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[10GHZ]

it's really up 2 u, how much u are prepare to spend and how far you want 2 go about to overclock the card. With stock cooling and no ramsinks, the 4200 can be overclocked to a 4400 no problem, with a CPU cooler on top of the GPU+ some nice copper ramsinks, you can push it a bit more, and finally, if u set up a water block, you can probably get it running at the Ti4600 level.
but then again, it's all about luck, some plp will have better results overclocking their card then the other. but u'll never know if u dont' try, so go ahead decide which card u want 2 get and get all the cooling gear ready for overclocking. good luck

typically, the Ti4200 64mb is clocked at 250 core/500 memory
the 128mb version is clocked lower @ 250/444
Ti4400 is clocked @ 275/550
Ti4600 is clocked @ 300/650

now keep in mind, the core dosn't provide good mhz to performance ratio when it comes to overclocking compare to the memory. so most plp will bring up their memory as high as they can and bring up the core a little bit as well to "balance" it off.

now if u get the 64mb version ti4200(recommanded) and want 2 overclock it to a Ti4600 that means u have 2 pump the core from 250 to 500 ( probably not a problem if u have good cooling ) but the memory needs to be raised 150mhz, i seriosuly doubt u are goiing 2 pull it off without damageing your card. so think it throu.

 

[Matisaro]

10ghz actually the gf4 gains more per core clock than the older models and ram speed is not as important(crossbarmemory controler).

Most ti4200s can hit 300/600 with little issue, my ti4200 hit 330/580 before i borked it.

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[ZeuSueZ]

Thx for the fast replys.

I'm gonna buy myself a 4400 and then oc it...buy the way - what utility do u guys use, I have for along time recommended my friends to use PowerStrip, because I find it very simpel, only holding the funktions u really need.

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[10GHZ]

theen keep using powerstrip. i think others use rivertuner or somthing like that, not sure. i'm an ATI head

 

[Matisaro]

nvmax is good


remember go for core more than ram, core speed is vital for a gf4.

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[Stain]

What sort of cooling do you have on that card? I have a 4400 but I can only get the core to 306 stable 330 seems awfuly good for a 4200?! Of course I was able to get my mem to 650 so I got a 4600 now.

 

[Matisaro]

Standard gainward coresink, the average oc of the core is relativly close between the 4200,4400,4600 the rams the major difference.

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[10GHZ]

the stock hsf arn't very effective when it comes to ocing. buy a 60x60 or smaller 50x50 copper CPU HSF and put it on you card with spring loaded screws.

 

[Matisaro]

the stock hsf arn't very effective when it comes to ocing. buy a 60x60 or smaller 50x50 copper CPU HSF and put it on you card with spring loaded screws.

The stock hsfs get average overclocks of 300-330mhz, i think thats plenty effective.

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[10GHZ]

but personally, i wondn't overclock my card if it has the stock hsf on it.

 

[chuck232]

I'd say the stock cooler is fine, as long as you don't run it constantly 24/7 at the brink of locking up. If you have good air circulation in your case and the GPU isn't pushed to the egde, then I think it's fine.

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[williamc]

Also keep in mind that test Tom did comparing the vga quality of these cards.

The 4600's were built from higher quality components and had superior visual quality in almost every case over the 4400's and 4200's. Article should be somewhere in the video hardware section..

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