GF4200 vs 9600

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I have been shopping around for a graphics card for my brother and the choice ended up being between a used 4200 and a demo Sapphire 9600 256MB (non-pro). Looking at benchmarks I saw that th 4200 generally beat the 9600 by a few FPS. I decided to go with the 9600 because it was still under warranty from both the shop and Sapphire, and because of DX9. The 9600 was also about 10 bucks cheaper. Did I choose right, or should I go with the 4200 instead.

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cleeve

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Both cards are good for the price.

If you use the 9600's strengths, you won't be dissapointed; overclock the core, it should have alot of overhead for that, and OC the memory as well for good performance.

And the 9600 has decent DirectX 9 shaders, so in some upcoming upcoming games it should fare better than the Ti4200.

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Go with the 9600np 256 mb ram you will be able to play directx 9 games with all of their visual performance.Except that you will use AA and AF with no big problems thanks to the 256 mb ram that card has.
 

cleeve

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Actually all that memory wouldn't really help a 9600... it's not powerful enough to use AA at high res anyway.

You probably would have been better served with a 128mb card with faster memory you could have overclocked better. But compared to the Ti4200 it'll still be fine, and you can take advantage of newer games with larger texture sets.

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Thanks guys for your input. Does Sapphire use inferior memory on the 256mb version like so many others? Unfortunatly, I did not have an option on the 128mb version unless I wanted to pay waaay more. At ~$50 it was a steal here in Scandinavia, the 9600 is about 150 and no real difference in the 128mb or 256mb.

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A Ti4200 would kick the living shiit out of a clunker 256mb(useless) 9600 non pro. And dont give me that "untill you enable AA & AF" BS, because neither of the cards have the balls to run these features anyways.

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cleeve

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Awwww, the 9600 aint so bad, GW.

Give the poor card a chance!

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pauldh

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yah but not everone still plays Quake 3. :wink:

jusk kidding. In almost all current games the ti4200 is faster, but considering I have loads of ti4200's, I'd want the 9600 np. It scores higher in aquamark III than a Ti4600 and also UT2003 with AA/AF. Almost doubles the Ti4200's score in UT2003 1024/768x32 4X/8X max detail. Although with an average of 28fps, still not playable. (But Loads Better than the 14-16fps slide show of the ti4200's) I bet at 2X/8X or just turned a bit off max details, it would even be playable, while looking better than any of the GF4Ti's. Why count the 9600 out. I would wager it would look nicer in far cry than a Ti4200.

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It's really a toss-up IMO. Neither card will be stellar in modern games. the GF4ti doesn't have some of the effects, but look at the performance in HALO the GF4ti is a fair bit faster than the R9600. OF course they didn't show us the R9600 with forced PS 1.4 or 1.1, but I doubt it would be significantly faster.

The main thing is to be aware that both will handle most older games but struggle pretty equally in modern games.

Nothing to write home about though.


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A little background is probably in order here. My brother is not a gamer, and the _only_ reason he is upgrading is to play FIFA 2003. Other than that he is happy with his tnt2 as he only plays CM4 (a superb soccer management game with an *amazing* 2D(!!!) engine. He hates FPS's with a passion and wanted the cheapest solution to play aforementioned FIFA. To boot he also invested in the ultimate controllers: Thrustmaster Digital 3!!! All in all he spent 70 bucks to play this game with his buddies before he goes out drinking (or after an unlucky night out ;). To him AF is short for anti freeze and AA is where he'll end up if he doesn't slow down soon...

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pauldh

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As a non-Gamer either card should be acceptable to him.

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pauldh

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Born and raised in the USA, but all four of my grandparents were from Norge. I've been there 3 times and hope to get there again within a few years.

Good luck with the Radeon 9600. Either choice was a good one but I would have made the same one you did.

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I just got it and installed it and hopefully now I will again be able to use my comp (with an ATI 9800 Pro 128mb). Anyways, thanks for all of you guys' input. Game on.

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