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Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
gets almost loaded and then reboots . .

Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
don't know what they are talking about . . .

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George, if you search the past year in this newsgroup you'll
find that I posted a number of times with the exact procedure
you used, with variable and miserable and frustrating results.
I used Ghost 2003.......I used Partition Magic 8.........and
I used Drive Image 7 .........I got plenty of advice in this forum
(and plenty of sharp-edged criticism, telling me how easy and
sure various methods are). It isn't easy, and it does make a clone
every time but some parts of the Master Boot (or whatever it is)
don't set up right. I offer you sympathy and the more or less
final results of my agony:

The procedure I use now, that seems to do just what you want,
almost every time, was posted by Richard Urban. I use Drive Image 7.
I make sure first that the source drive has been defragged, and has
gone through chkdsk/r to make sure it is clean. I only make a
clone of a partition which is the first partition on the drive,
and which is Active and Primary. I make a Drive Image of it.

Then I prepare the target drive. I make sure that the first thing
I see on the drive is an Unallocated area at least as large as
the source. Then I use PQRE from Drive Image 7 to "Recover" the
clone from the Drive Image. I don't let it reboot automatically.
I don't let it copy the Master Boot Record. I DO let it make the
new drive/partition/clone Active. And it works just about every time.

I am no authority on this; I'm telling you what I have found. My
procedure, for which I thank Richard Urban, works for me when
nothing else worked for me. I suggest that you search this newsgroup
for his postings, in case I forgot anything. He stated it clearly
and logically and simply, step by step. You may hear about other
software that is infallible, and I hope you do and that it is.

Good luck.



george2002 wrote:
> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
> to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
> with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
> the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
> primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
> It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
> know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
> gets almost loaded and then reboots . .
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
> telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
> don't know what they are talking about . . .
>
> George


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You dont need any 3rd party software for that,simply set the new drive
as slave on the same IDE cable,format the drive in diskmgmt.msc,go to run
and type it,after xp is thru formatting,close out msc,go to run,type:
XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r Agree to all in the DOS window,when the window
disapears youre thru,xp is loaded on the new drive.Also,D: being the new hd
although if asigned diffrent letter then use that letter.

"george2002" wrote:

> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
> to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
> with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
> the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
> primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
> It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
> know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
> gets almost loaded and then reboots . .
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
> telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
> don't know what they are talking about . . .
>
> George
>
 
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In article <1125674781.dd8cf54375d47e4be17744d7ed1cb4de@teranews>,
bythesea687502@yahoo.com says...
> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
> to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
> with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
> the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
> primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
> It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
> know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
> gets almost loaded and then reboots . .
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
> telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
> don't know what they are talking about . . .

If you cloned the drive exactly, it should have worked as long as you
were using the same size drives and Ghost 2003.

If you went to a larger drive you should have been running WX + SP1 at
least, as some larger drives needed SP1 to be seen properly.

If you already have SP2 on the machine then that's not the problem.

Now, disconnect the OLD drive completely.

Connect the new drive and enable CS (Cable Select) and make it the last
connector (the last one is the master)....

Check the BIOS to make sure that it sees the new drive properly.

Boot up - let us know what you see if you do the above.

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That looks like it will copy all files from Local Disk C:.
But what about the boot sector at the start of the partition
and the Master Boot Record at the start of the HD?

*TimDaniels*


"Andrew E." wrote:
> You dont need any 3rd party software for that,simply set the new drive
> as slave on the same IDE cable,format the drive in diskmgmt.msc,go to run
> and type it,after xp is thru formatting,close out msc,go to run,type:
> XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r Agree to all in the DOS window,when the window
> disapears youre thru,xp is loaded on the new drive.Also,D: being the new hd
> although if asigned diffrent letter then use that letter.
>
> "george2002" wrote:
>
>> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
>> to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
>> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
>> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
>> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
>> with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
>> the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
>> primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
>> It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
>> know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
>> gets almost loaded and then reboots . .
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
>> telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
>> don't know what they are talking about . . .
>>
>> George
>>
 
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Are the partitions arranged on the destination drive in the
same order that they were on the source drive? Did you
tell DI to copy the clone to a *primary* partition and to mark
that partition "active"?

*TimDaniels*


"george2002" wrote:
> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C:
> to a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred
> with not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on
> the new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the
> primary drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window.
> It doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't
> know what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it
> gets almost loaded and then reboots . .
 
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Since you got to the XP window, it appears the partition is active and
bootable and the XP partition is on it. It may be the clone simply didn't
take. I've seen that happen. Have you tried it again?

"george2002" <bythesea687502@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125674781.dd8cf54375d47e4be17744d7ed1cb4de@teranews...
> Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C: to
> a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
> restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
> software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
> Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred with
> not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on the
> new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the primary
> drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window. It
> doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't know
> what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it gets
> almost loaded and then reboots . .
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
> telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
> don't know what they are talking about . . .
>
> George
 
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mdp wrote:
> Since you got to the XP window, it appears the partition is active and
> bootable and the XP partition is on it. It may be the clone simply didn't
> take. I've seen that happen. Have you tried it again?
>
> "george2002" <bythesea687502@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1125674781.dd8cf54375d47e4be17744d7ed1cb4de@teranews...
>
>>Hello, I am working trying to get my XP OS switched from the current C: to
>>a new WD hard drive I just got. I tried the Maxtor backup get it to
>>restore to this new drive with no luck. My thoughts on Maxtor's backup
>>software are not printable on this forum . . . anyway, I used my copy of
>>Ghost 2003 to clone the current C:\ to the new drive. It transferred with
>>not problems. I disconnected the old C:\ and changed the jumpers on the
>>new hard drive (I also changed the cable so that drive is now the primary
>>drive). It will boot into XP but hangs on the Windows XP window. It
>>doesn't even go to start. I can boot into safe mode but hell, I don't know
>>what to do there! I have tried using Norton Recovery disk but it gets
>>almost loaded and then reboots . .
>>
>>Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong . . . everyone keeps
>>telling me this is simple and to do this and that . . . of course they
>>don't know what they are talking about . . .
>>
>>George

I want the thank everyone for their input. I did try it again but it
didn't work. So I simply installed a new copy of XP on the new disk and
reinstalled the programs. Not a very elegant way of getting the job done
but I was under a deadline. I also got fearful about damaging something
plugging and unplugging the cables so many times . . . with my luck,
yesterday, I would could have damaged something. When I get back home I
am going to give it a try on my system to see what I was doing wrong.

Again thanks to everyone.

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billurie@nospam.org wrote:
> George, if you search the past year in this newsgroup you'll
> find that I posted a number of times with the exact procedure
> you used, with variable and miserable and frustrating results.
> I used Ghost 2003.......I used Partition Magic 8.........and
> I used Drive Image 7 .........I got plenty of advice in this forum
> (and plenty of sharp-edged criticism, telling me how easy and
> sure various methods are). It isn't easy, and it does make a clone
> every time but some parts of the Master Boot (or whatever it is)
> don't set up right. I offer you sympathy and the more or less
> final results of my agony:
>
> The procedure I use now, that seems to do just what you want,
> almost every time, was posted by Richard Urban. I use Drive Image 7.
> I make sure first that the source drive has been defragged, and has
> gone through chkdsk/r to make sure it is clean. I only make a
> clone of a partition which is the first partition on the drive,
> and which is Active and Primary. I make a Drive Image of it.
>
> Then I prepare the target drive. I make sure that the first thing
> I see on the drive is an Unallocated area at least as large as
> the source. Then I use PQRE from Drive Image 7 to "Recover" the
> clone from the Drive Image. I don't let it reboot automatically.
> I don't let it copy the Master Boot Record. I DO let it make the
> new drive/partition/clone Active. And it works just about every time.
>
> I am no authority on this; I'm telling you what I have found. My
> procedure, for which I thank Richard Urban, works for me when
> nothing else worked for me. I suggest that you search this newsgroup
> for his postings, in case I forgot anything. He stated it clearly
> and logically and simply, step by step. You may hear about other
> software that is infallible, and I hope you do and that it is.
>
> Good luck.
>
Bill, thank you for spending the time to give me your views on Ghost's
Clone. I gave up trying to get Ghost to work. When I return home, I am
summering in Vermont with a friend, and I am working on his computer.
His input made the job almost impossible. I found it easier just
reinstalling the OS and then stuffing it with the whooping SP-2 I had a
friend download and burn to a CD for me. It told less time to do that
than mess with his computer anymore. However, when I get home I am going
to try it on one of my computers. I wonder if the problem has something
to do with the motherboard?

Thanks again, George
 
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In article <1125792979.16537632d7ef669d5ab77f654f4ef3e4@teranews>,
bythesea687502@yahoo.com says...
> However, when I get home I am going
> to try it on one of my computers. I wonder if the problem has something
> to do with the motherboard?

If the drives already work in the computer, and the OS runs, then you
need to use the GHOST BOOT DISKETTE method and do a DISK to DISK clone.
Doing the partition method is asking for trouble if you are not very
clear on setting active partitions and such.

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