Gigabyte GTX 460 SOV vs. GTX470 vs. GTX560

[Meganano]

After some reading I've come to the conclusion that the GTX 470 performs better at a lower price than GTX 560. The Gigabyte GTX Super Overclocked 460 performance and price is virtually the same as the basic GTX 470 but runs cooler and quieter, and therefore is the better choice of the three cards.

Comments?

 

[shrkbay]

actually, the GTX 560 is faster than the GTX 470, quiter and cooler too, but the GTX 460 is quiter and cooler than GTX 560, and well GTX 470 consumes a lot of power and produces a lot of heat so i believe it's not the best choice... I'd rather pick GTX 460 or well if i had more cash then GTX 560

 

[barrymobiel]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Twin_Frozr_II/1.html
read this, the 560 is better then the 470.
The 460 is quieter then the 560.

 

[shrkbay]

^that's what i said

 

[Onus]

Look at the benchmarks of the games you play. Also consider the size and quality of your PSU. A "600W" Logisys will choke, smoke, and croak on a 460, but a 500W Antec Earthwatts would have no trouble with a 560 or 470.

 

[Meganano]

Thanks for the responses. I want to make it clear that I'm talking about the Super Overclocked 460, not the plain garden variety 460.

I don't play video games (yet), but I don't want to under build. It looks like I'm now deciding between the SOC 460 and the MSI NTwin Frozr II GTX 560. The price difference is ~$50. Is there a significant performance difference here?

The power supply I'm considering is,

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=CORSAIR%20CMPSU-650TX%20650W%20ATX12V%20%2f%20EPS12V%20SLI%20Ready

Will that be adequate for any of the 3 cards I mentioned?

 

[dan2222]

That psu will handle any of those cards with ease. And the msi 560 is a better card all round. Its faster than both the 460 soc and 470 can be overclocked easily aswell. No real choice dilemma with th cards, 560 all the way. And the psu is good too.

 

[dan2222]

And sorry, to answer your question, there is indeed a noticeable performance difference. Not only is the 560 faster and able to be overclocked to 570 speeds, it will do this much quieter and cooler than the 470 could.

The 460 as lovely as it is, is not in the same league. It is cool and quiet but is not as fast as the other two.

 

[nforce4max]

If and when you do decide which card to pick please consider what I have to say. I personally own a gtx 460 but they are by no means a maintenance free card. They were made more or less very cheaply even the reputable cards such as the msi hawk. The gtx 560 is the best option over all as it has a higher quality cooler and plate. The gtx 470 is more or less old news so avoid it. The gtx 570 isn't of the same quality as the 580 and there are complaints of physical and abrupt failure of the power vrm phases going sparks and blue smoke.

 

[andy5174]

actually, the GTX 560 is faster than the GTX 470, quiter and cooler too, but the GTX 460 is quiter and cooler than GTX 560, and well GTX 470 consumes a lot of power and produces a lot of heat so i believe it's not the best choice... I'd rather pick GTX 460 or well if i had more cash then GTX 560

GTX560 (whose architecture is very similar to GTX460) is basically an OCed GTX460 with some disabled function enabled and some new features added. Hence, there's nothing wrong for 560 to run hotter.

I do agree that people should avoid the 470 (which is a combo of heater and power hog) unless there's a really good deal.

 

[jjb8675309]

there is very little to debate in my opinion the clear winner of the cards you listed is the gtx 560ti I would without a doubt get that card if I were you, furthermore, what are your full system specs?

 

[shrkbay]

^ me 2 but they are too expensive here, 300$ is the cheapest i found :S

 

[Onus]

Since you do not yet play games, I would suggest building your rig initially with an IGP until you decide what games you want to play. Then research benchmarks of that type or types of game and pick your card. In the meantime, you will have gotten your system otherwise settled down and stable. Or, start out at the low end, with a HD5770 or even a HD5750. You can certainly get a taste of any game with those, before you decide how high you want to go. What resolution is your monitor, or what will it be?

 

[jjb8675309]

^+1 if they are 300 that is a ripoff, I thinkjtt283 however has some solid advice listed above

 

[nforce4max]

starting low end is far better than having an igp. I hated my experiences of igp gaming and will never go back. Even an ancient $20 or $30 pos card is light years ahead of any igp out there in terms of just raw performance. 8800/9800gt 3870/4850 on the super cheap is very possible these days while on the new even a 5450 one can limp along till one has saved up for something decent. 5750 isn't a bad choice at all. Great hardware but drivers are often a sour complaint unless one only plays one or two games 90% of the time.

 

[abswindows7]

MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr 2 all the way.
If you don't play games, then I wonder why asking for $200+ graphic cards...
An IGP as stated above can do anything but gaming.

 

[shrkbay]

actually ati 3000 is as good as 9300gt-9500gt ;P

 

[abswindows7]

I'd reconcider the term good in this case...
Calling a 9300-9500 gt good is imo wrong.
It does the job but they suck xD

 

[Onus]

If you want to start out with something other than an IGP, then get a HD5670. Even that card can play most games; heck you might even "suffer" with a HD4670, although the price difference between those two (only $10-$15) makes the weaker HD4670 a bad buy.

 

[Meganano]

That MSI GeForce GTX 560 Twin Frozr sounds tolerable at $250, no tax,

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N560GTX-Twin-Frozr-IIOC/dp/B004JLNZXU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299869909&sr=8-1-fkmr0

However Tom favors the Asus version,

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-560-ti-roundup-asus-engtx560-graphics-card-overclocking,review-32122-21.html

I haven't yet found anyone with it in stock or a price.

 

[Onus]

I don't think the OP can buy from US sources.
I got a similar ASUS one from Newegg a few weeks ago, but it died within a few days. The RMA is underway though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424

 

[Meganano]

The Sparkle Calibre X560 seems to be the top performer of of the 560,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-roundup-asus-engtx560-graphics-card-overclocking,2858.html

and it looks like it's now the cheapest at $229,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187136

or would the MSI be better with the dual fans?

 

[cps1974]

I have Gigabyte GTX 460 SOC - it runs at:

GPU 900MHz, 950 is the limit I understand
shader 1780Mhz
memory 1050MHz

never goes over 60c, fan usually stays around the default 40% (near silent) but can go up by a couple of percent - can play all games inc BF3 @ ultra settings, 1920x1080 (approx 40fps)

BC2 checked recently averaged around 60fps, highest possible settings, 1920x1080, 32xCSAA, 16xAF etc etc

it's a wonderful card that was underpriced when it hit market - it's still roughly the same price now - approx 1 year later



If I had the cash I'd go for some of these, for me the GTX 460 / 560 / 560ti need 2 fans, GTX 570 2/3 fans...

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti SOC (rev 2.0)
N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC

or

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 Super Overclock (out performs reference GTX 580)
MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III (performance similar to Gigabyte I would imagine)


all can be SLI at later date if need be

let us know how you get on


cheers
chaz

 

[cps1974]

MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR

on sale @ OCUk today only if anyone interested, UK of course - £179