Gigabyte GTX 970 Windforce VS GTX 780

[saxman2k]

I can only keep one. The other one is promised to my brother. Which should I keep? I hear tell that they are a pretty close match. Does one nudge ahead at all? I'm not concerned with dollar value but rather max stable FPS. That said I got the 780 for 65 bucks and the 970 for 130 bucks both mint condition but regardless of which one he gets I'm charging him 100 bucks. The 780 has the stock cooler and to be clear the 970 is NOT the G1 gaming version but does have the windforce 3x fan system.

Thanks in advance!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

This should answer your question

However, Id advise your brother to shop elsewhere.... making a profit of $35 off ya own brother ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-780-ACX-GDDR5-/232259945863?hash=item3613c58587:g:bWQAAOSw~AVYuiKH

He can get a 780 Ti for $100 and it's not a stock card

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GTX-780ti-Video-Card-HDMI-DVI-and-Displayport-/262873485398?hash=item3d347b1056:g:Q7MAAOSwtfhYtNMl

 

[saxman2k]

Its easy to judge when you don't know the full story and even easier to find an ebay AUCTION that is at a low price and throw it in someones face as though they are ripping of their own brother. So how about this. Instead of judging me based on some stuff you made up in your head you stick to the topic at hand.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Answered your question with the chart. Been building Pcs for 25 years and the 780 is still by no means worth what you are charging.

 

[saxman2k]

And also your chart answers nothing as it has a different version of my card on it with potentially different clock speeds and other specs. I would recommend not "answering" peoples questions unless you are certain you have some sort of valid information to offer up and also that you learn how ebay works.

 

[saxman2k]

Answered your question with the chart. Been building Pcs for 25 years and the 780 is still by no means worth what you are charging.

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Go mess up someone elses post please

 

[nikoli707]

benchmarks are not going to tell the whole story as the 780 overclocks better than the 970. after your average overclock they are within 5-10% of each other. that said, the 970 is still the better card.

 

[saxman2k]

benchmarks are not going to tell the whole story as the 780 overclocks better than the 970. after your average overclock they are within 5-10% of each other. that said, the 970 is still the better card.

Can you be more specific on why its still the better card? Want to make sure I am making the right decision.

 

[nikoli707]

benchmarks are not going to tell the whole story as the 780 overclocks better than the 970. after your average overclock they are within 5-10% of each other. that said, the 970 is still the better card.

Can you be more specific on why its still the better card? Want to make sure I am making the right decision.

it is a newer architecture, its about 25-30% more power efficient, it has a bit more gaming horsepower and more vram.... there really is nothing it doesn't do better.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Where did you get the idea that changing the logo / model number has a significant effect on performance ? There are basically 3 different categories of cards:

a) Reference cards ... shown in the chart. There is no significant difference in performance between brands and the performance of EVERY 780 reference card is indicated in the chart at as 84%.

b) Non Reference cards ... the chart shows BOTH the performance of the reference card at 97% and that of an MSI AIB Gaming X card at 3% faster. Having built several boxes with 970s AIB cards i can tell you from personal experience that there is little significant difference in performance. While they may come with slightly different overclocks, manual overclocking puts the pretty close to the same level.

c) the super cards ;ike the MSI Lifgtning, EVGA C;lassified but since they have become irrelevant and are not within the discussion, we can drop those.

Here we see a better model than yours from Gigabyte reaching an overclock of 1516.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_970_g1_gaming_review,26.html

Here we see the MSI reaching an overclock of 1501
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,26.html

The above clearly shows the changing the logo or model number of cards changes little with respect to comparing different generation cards. Yes I would rather have 1516 than 1501.... but you must recognize that this is less than a 1% performance difference.

The graph DOES SHOW you quite clearly that the difference between the stock card and the AIB card is 3%. The above shows you that the competition is extremely close, the two different model cards vary by less than 1 % and worse case it might be 2 -3 %. Again significant if deciding between two current generation cards but cross generation.

The graph clearly and factually answers you question... the AIB 960 card is 16% faster than the stock (reference) 780 card. No model number or logo change will change that answer to any significant degree ...maybe it will be 13% ... maybe it will be 19% but in no case no matter how many non-applicable variables you throw at it, the answer will still and always be that the 970 is faster.

I should note that I have two 780s (water cooled w/ 22% OC) and two 970s (19% OC on air) in this room and the benchmarks used include overclocking. Believe what you want, but as you can already see, you won't get a different answer.