Gigabyte K8NS wont work with Asus 9600 XT

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Hi. I just bought a Gigabyte K8NS model (nf3 250) motherboard, and bought a new AMD 64 bit 3000+ 754 Socket. I have a ASUS 9600 XT 128 MB (AGP 8X/4X/2X).

I have assembled all cables and etc. correctly. I connected my Asus 9600 XT 128 MB, and the "2X_DET" LED lights on(AGP 2X Indication LED). I read the manual and it says that i cant use AGP 2X VGA cards, but my card is 8X!!!

I have sent an email to gigabyte, but havent recieved any answer in 3 days...

I have connected a GeForce 2 MX 64 MB(AGP 4X/2X), and everything worked fine, i also connected the Asus on another computer, and it also works...

I Loaded the Bios Defaults and nothing changed.

My Case is Aopen H600 300W PSU, the power supply should be sufficient...

What can I do, please help ASAP!!
 
You mean on the BIOS? If so then yes I did.

If you are talking about doing something on the Radeon, then no i havent. How do I do that???
 
I'm not sure if your PSU is sufficient.

The Radeon might have a jumper to switch between 1x/2x and 4x/8x but I could be talking crap..

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by tweebel on 02/05/05 11:42 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
It definately sounds like a motherboard problem, the 9600 series doesn't even support 3.3v mode (what the 2X_DET LED is trying to protect you from).

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Asus 9600XT were having problems with nforce2 board if I remember.. maybe I would try another vid card brand with 8x AGP. Try a real ATI 9600xt if you can.

Before somebody point it!!! Yeah I know this board is nforce3, but it is still a nforce and an Asus card.

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Pat on 02/06/05 11:32 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I don't know, the MX actually supports modes that aren't supported by your chipset, while the 9600 doesn't, so it has to be a problem with either the card, the board, or a BIOS issue.

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Looks like the motherboard is able to see that my Geforce 2 MX has 4X capability, but it wont see that my Radeon has 8X/4X capability...

Getting pretty crazy here.....
 
Yes, and the biggest reason I find that odd is because the 9600 series has no 3.3v compatability (native to AGP2x) at all. The only way the 9600 could operate at 2x speed is by using the 4x 1.5v setting and a cross-compatability mode. So there is no native 2x support, which means there's no good reason why the board would think it's a 2x card.

It's possible that Asus did something weird with the design and that the board is confused of course. I seem to remember storries about how a certain pin was assigned. But if that were the case, a non-Asus card wouldn't have the same issue.

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actually, the non asus card has a AGP 2X notch, while the Asus one doesnt.

mayybe i can manually carve a AGP 2X notch 🙁 ????
 
No, 3.3v would fry the ATI 9600 series chip:

<A HREF="http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-395-02.JPG" target="_new">The original ATI 9600 Pro</A>
<A HREF="http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-121-528-02.JPG" target="_new">The Asus Version</A>
<A HREF="http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-331-04.JPG" target="_new">The original ATI Radeon 9600XT</A>
<A HREF="http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-121-509-05.JPG" target="_new">The Asus version</A>

The 9600 series, all the way from the 9600SE to the AIW 9600XT, doesn't support 3.3v, which is why the key slot is missing. The missing key slot prevents people from inserting the card into an old board such as the Pentium II BX chipset boards, where it would be fried.

So you have a motherboard that doesn't support 3.3v cards, you have a card that doesn't support 3.3v boards, both should be happy together. The fact they aren't points to something else being the problem.

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I would definatly take a look at your PSU..What make is it? Is it a good quality 300W PSU, or a cheap 300W PSU? I had a 9600XT, and I had all kinds of problems with my 400W Generic PSU until I upgraded to a ThermalTake PurePower 420W.

With the Athlon64 on the s754 board, you want to have good power coming in.

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My PSU is the original PSU from my Aopen H600. My friend Has a P4 3.0 with a Radeon 9700 Pro, and the same PSU is enough for him...
 
I would have changed the Asus 9600xt, or at least tried another 9600Xt in your current board.. I use an ATI AIW 9600Xt in my nforce3 system and it run great. Anyway I hope you'll have it running with the epox. Just come back here to tell us how it went!

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...or a problem with that pesky nf3 250 chipset. Same chipset gave me grief with my 6800gt as well. :wink:

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Some boards (I think 2) overclock nVidia video cards, just because those boards happen to have nVidia chipsets, that doesn't mean nVidia had anything to do with it. Rather, it's a trick done by the boardmaker to get falsely high benchmark scores.

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