Gigabyte mobo, Asus 750ti, compatibility or workaround??

[Chris_114]

I have an older Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R (2.1) with the most recent bios (13).
Win 10
PSU is over 600W
I upgraded from my GTS 250(which worked flawlessly) to an Asus GTX 750ti.

I have read a few posts on here stating that there is concern with compatibility. I am having problems and both Gigabyte and Asus have weighed in on the subject.

When I first installed the GPU, I would have random computer crashes and frequent messages telling me my driver has stopped responding and has recovered....

I RMA'd the videocard to Asus and they stress tested it and returned it to me stating there was nothing wrong with it.

I then contacted Gigabyte and asked them about my issue and they stated :

"The newer card uses UEFI which is not fully compatible on the Award bios structure therefore there will be compatibility factor."

That being said, I wanted to ask the community if there is any way to make my system stable with my current hardware. Second question is what are my best options for upgrading to a different videocard that will be compatible with my older mobo. I love Tom's GPU Hierarchy , but it does not point out compatibility issues and whatnot. Ideally, I'd love to upgrade my mobo, but that means cpu and ram upgrades, which I'm not ready to do financially.

Thank you so much

Chris

 

[clutchc]

First, if the board's legacy BIOS would not interface with the UEFI BIOS of the card, you would not get a display. Second, the card will revert to legacy compatibility when it sees an older BIOS like yours. And thirdly, I have a P35 chipset board that works just fine with my GTX 750 Ti.

I would suspect that your problems are software related. Try to reinstall the card again. This time run DDU from safe mode and uninstall all Nvidia and AMD drivers it finds. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/display_driver_uninstaller.html
Boot back to Win and run CCleaner. Do the Clean and Registry portions both. If it finds a lot, run it again. https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Then install the latest driver for your card an OS direct from Nvidia. http://www.geforce.com/drivers

 

[Chris_114]

Thank you for the response clutchc,

I have downloaded the DDU and most recent video driver. I already have ccleaner. Once I uninstall from safe mode, you say to boot normal and run ccleaner. However, won't windows 10 try and install a video driver as soon as I'm up and running? How do I get Windows 10 to ignore my videocard long enough for me to install the driver?

Also, The quote I entered in the original post is from Gigabyte, stating that there are compatibility issues. Is that them just covering themselves, since you say your rig has no problems?

Thanks again!

First, if the board's legacy BIOS would not interface with the UEFI BIOS of the card, you would not get a display. Second, the card will revert to legacy compatibility when it sees an older BIOS like yours. And thirdly, I have a P35 chipset board that works just fine with my GTX 750 Ti.

I would suspect that your problems are software related. Try to reinstall the card again. This time run DDU from safe mode and uninstall all Nvidia and AMD drivers it finds. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/display_driver_uninstaller.html
Boot back to Win and run CCleaner. Do the Clean and Registry portions both. If it finds a lot, run it again. https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Then install the latest driver for your card an OS direct from Nvidia. http://www.geforce.com/drivers

 

[clutchc]

The default driver that Win will install is fine. That is done so you have a workable driver to be able to get a display. It won't interfere with doing the new GTX 750 Ti driver install.
I can't speak to why they stated it had compatibility issues other than the BIOS. I have yet to find a board that the Nvidia card won't work on other than some proprietary boards like HP or Compaq.

If the above doesn't solve your problem, I suspect there are other issues. BIOS incompatibility usually results in no display at all. Or a lockup at boot.

One other thing... all my examples were with using Win7. Are you using the correct Win10 driver?

 

[Chris_114]

I wanted to follow up with my graphic woes. I ran DDU and got rid of nvidia drivers (also ran it for AMD), then ran ccleaner 3 or 4 times, just to make sure (computer and registry). I had previously downloaded the latest driver from Nvidia (yes, for windows 10).

That entire process went smoothly. And since I have completed that, my computer is much better. Unfortunately, I am still getting driver has stopped responded and recovered messages. I have not experienced any computer freeze-ups since that process, so it is a better situation.

Any other thoughts on ridding myself of the driver error issues?

Thanks again for all your help!

 

[clutchc]

What is the make and model of your 600W PSU? How old is it?

 

[Chris_114]

It's a Silencer 610EPS12V (says Nvidia SLI Ready on it). I don't remember the purchase date, but it's at least 6 or 7 years old.

 

[clutchc]

It's a Silencer 610EPS12V (says Nvidia SLI Ready on it). I don't remember the purchase date, but it's at least 6 or 7 years old.

OK. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't some piece of junk that could be causing the issues. Driver issues like that are usually caused by software conflicts. (or a bad card) Do you have a lot of other stuff that starts with Win? For awhile, disable as much as possible that starts with Win. Run those items on an as-need basis if you need them for awhile. See if the driver crashes go away.

A couple other things you can try...
Run Malwarebytes. You may have some poorly written malware running in the background that can be causing conflicts https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Do a FULL virus scan too (after getting the latest signature updates)

 

[Chris_114]

Well, I ran Malewarebytes and the full virus scan. I've turned off most of the programs that start with Win.
No luck

I'm going to see if I can get access to another computer to try the 750ti in and see if there are similar problems. I'll follow up on here when I get a chance to try it.

Thank you for the help!