gigabyte p35c ds3r vs. asus p5kc

[mcfly29]

I read a small thread on this subject on another forum but I'd like to know what people around here think between these 2 boards which is the 1 to go for. They both have pluses and minuses I just wish the made a board that had all the positive atributes of both boards combined into 1 "super board". I plan to OC but nothing too extreme and I like the ddr2/3 feature of this board as I will use this board for proabably 3-5 years and it supports the upcoming penryns and the ability to upgrade to ddr3 in a couple years when the prices reach that of ddr2 models. My total system with either these boards will look something like the usually favoured suspects :
q6600
2gb ddr2 800
8800 gt (Single card only I'll never need sli!)
2-3 sata hds and my ide burner (recycled components)

 

[Maziar]

Get ASUS P5K or GIGABYTE P35 DS3R instead , why ?

1_Because P5K and P35 DS3R OC better than P5KC and
GIGABYTE P35C DS3R

2_ASUS P5KC and GIGABYTE P35C DS3R DDR3 option is limited to 4GB but the DDR2 option is limited to 8GB , so the DDR3 option wont become useful

3_DDR2 doesnt have alot of difference with DDR3 in most apps(the performance difference is %0-%10)

 

[wolfy87]

But why all these things???
do you have some links to show us why they oc better and how much?
3) Because DDR3 is still very fresh there aren`t much perf differences... Just as when DDR2 came out first time...

I was planing to start a topic, but found this one. I would really like to find out those mysteries about combo vs single memory boards? Combo ones look very promising, upgradable, so when technology is improved and prices down, I don`t know the reason why 1333Mhz wouldn`t be faster than 1066Mhz... And with an increase in L2 cache at CPUs, I don`t think that he`ll be desperate with 4 gigs of ram....
Also heard lots of guys saying that memory controler can`t be perfect for both ddr2 and ddr3 mobos, why???

 

[Maziar]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ga-p35c-ds3r.html

But let’s check out memory overclocking. Since Gigabyte P35C-DS3R supports both: DDR2 and DDR3 SDRAM, the memory overclocking efficiency may have suffered.

Unfortunately, at the time of tests we didn’t have high-frequency DDR3 SDRAM modules in our lab. The Kingston KHX11000D3LLK2/2G modules designed to work at 1375MHz overclocked to 1428MHz, the same result we obtained on Asus P5K3 Deluxe before. The memory voltage in this case was set 0.3V higher and the timings were at 7-7-7-20.



However, DDR2 SDRAM overclocking wasn’t as successful. Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-10000C5D kit with 1250MHz default frequency could only work stably on Gigabyte P35C-DS3R at 1100MHz. Even maximum possible memory voltage didn’t help. So, it turns out that this mainboard can only work with high-speed DDR3 SDRAM.

Lows:
No second PCI Express x16 slot;
Relatively low performance during FSB overclocking;
Poor memory overclocking results;
No tools for system voltages management in the BIOS.

 

[mcfly29]

Realistically will I need more than 4 gb of ddr3 when I upgrade to have a good system. Of course 8 is beetter than 4 but unnecessary. I know the differences are small and I mentioned it didn't oc as well. I dont need to push my cpu my q6600 to 3.6 gig, 3.2 would be just fine for me. It seems to me, ok I could get regular non dual mem board with better performance but as I mentioned again I won't upgrade the mem and cpu until prices of thoses products fall and my mobo would still be a long term viable solution. I didn't ask for advice on other mobos either, I am well aware of the other options I just wanted info on these boards. Thanks wolf87 for getting the point! End rant.