GIGABYTE why'd You Lie To Me:Gigabyte motherboard revisions present markedly different test results

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The Rev 1.0 board using standard settings (so with the agressive turbo) also throttles back, but only after about 3 minutes, i.e. 12 times later than the Rev 2.0. At that time the highest mosfet temperature we measured is about 100 ºC. With the Rev 1.0 set manually to Intel's default Turbo settings (i.e. the Rev 2.0 default) the CPU stays consistently at its maximum speed of 3.7 GHz without any throttling whatsoever, not even after running Prime95 for over an hour. The mosfet temperature in that test didn't go higher than 90 ºC.

Of course Prima95 is not a normal usage model, so we also did some tests using the Tech Arp x264 benchmark, converting H.264. The workload lasts about 10 minutes.

During the video encoding we don't see any throttling on the Rev 1.0 board, even with its default agressive Turbo setting. The mosfet temperatures remain around 80 degrees. The Rev 2.0 board with Intel's default Turbo, throttles after 6 minutes already back to 800 MHz, with mosfet temperatures between 105 and 112 degrees. The throttling results in a clearly lower score. With the Rev 2.0 board set to the more agressive turbo, the CPU throttles already after 4 minutes of video encoding.
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The significantly higher temperature of the components in the CPU power supply and the unbalanced load over the mosfets in the Rev 2.0 board make it likely that the new revision won't last as long as the Rev 1.0, even though we cannot prove that using this test. What we can demonstrate beyond any doubt is that the CPU power supply of the Rev 2.0 board is not up to the task, even for normal consumer workloads. The video encoding test shows that thanks to the lower amount of mosfets temperatures rise much more quickly, leading to CPU throttling and lowered performance. Rev 1.0 does not show that behaviour at all.

GIGABYTE YOU ARE SO BAD
 
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To be fair gigabyte has other b85 motherboards, both atx and micro atx. An alternative might be the b85 d3h (which got much higher ratings in it's reviews than the hd3). It also appears to be much better quality with decent sized heatsinks on the vrm with nearly the same options and for $4 more (still a budget board at $74).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128607

Some of the complaints about revisions apply to other versions of their b85 matx boards, in terms of newer revisions not allowing overclocking of the latest g3258 haswell refresh chip. Again, people want to pay bottom dollar for a product and expect top notch performance? Which is why many of us tend to repeat over and over, get a 'z' series and get...
It also looks like rev1 has more voltage regulators. How did gigabyte lie to anyone? They purposely denoted revision 1 from revision 2, if the end user didn't bother doing their homework how is that gigabyte's fault exactly? As TechyInAz said, it's also a budget board at best. Gigabyte makes excellent boards, but people want to buy the cheapest option a company makes then bash them for it? You failed to mention it was a gigabyte board that set 3 top oc records at intel lanfest too. At least gigabyte is up front about who makes their voltage regulator ir's, asus (though usually a good brand) decides to hide it and cover it up with their own markings like they've got something to hide. Does that make asus bad too? You get what you pay for.
 


That is marketing prices,price would fallen significantly is normal.You can check Asus B85M-G:http://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?pu=1955985,but Asus B85M-G not lack any component.

 
So we're agreed that "same price" wasn't correct! :)

Of course it is normal for prices to fall; it is also normal for manufacturers to change the make-up of components over their lifetime (which is one of the reasons why prices fall - they discover ways of making the component cheaper). The bottom line is, are they promising specifications that they don't deliver (never mind that before they delivered much better than they promised)? If not then it is defamation to call them "liars".

So - can you inform us which specification Gigabyte promised but are not now supplying?
 


So you're agreed that lack some component and increase much temperature cause the performance worse than rev1.0?If you have two choice between rev1.0 and rev2.0,you will choose which one?No one will choose worse one ,but the consumer only can buy rev2.0 now.:pfff:
 
So you're agreed that lack some component and increase much temperature cause the performance worse than rev1.0?If you have two choice between rev1.0 and rev2.0,you will choose which one?No one will choose worse one ,but the consumer only can buy rev2.0 now.
All very true, no doubt. (God know what you expect for next to nothing!) But still no lies from Gigabyte and still defamation from you.
 
To be fair gigabyte has other b85 motherboards, both atx and micro atx. An alternative might be the b85 d3h (which got much higher ratings in it's reviews than the hd3). It also appears to be much better quality with decent sized heatsinks on the vrm with nearly the same options and for $4 more (still a budget board at $74).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128607

Some of the complaints about revisions apply to other versions of their b85 matx boards, in terms of newer revisions not allowing overclocking of the latest g3258 haswell refresh chip. Again, people want to pay bottom dollar for a product and expect top notch performance? Which is why many of us tend to repeat over and over, get a 'z' series and get something relevant to your cpu. 8 series motherboards were not designed for newer chips. The b85 is not a performance board and not intended for overclocking. Even if people 'manage' to do things with unsuitable hardware, it doesn't mean they should act surprised if/when they cannot.

Now if it were a matter of running a high end cpu on a high end motherboard with these issues, or an unlocked chip on the proper chipset (matching series chipset with performance 'z' denotation) and these problems cropped up then ok, it would reason to be upset. Those of us who do the research and spend the money on better quality parts don't do it because we like to be broke or because our wallets are so fat it's causing spinal misalignment (at least not mine that's for sure). There's proper hardware for various tasks.

Hopefully this helps others prevent encountering issues. Be realistic about performance expectations, don't expect top notch performance from the smallest/cheapest piece of hardware you can find. Motherboards are just like every other component, they're not just pointless boards to hold all of our stuff so buy the cheapest piece of crud we can and call it a day. I feel bad for the headaches a lot of people go through, but it's really common in a lot of builds I see people ask about. They pour all their funds into a high end (as high as is within their budget) cpu and gpu, then they get the cheapest motherboard and power supply they can find and expect not to have issues. In my experience there are no 'unimportant' parts of a pc, it works together as a unit and will only be as strong or as reliable as the weakest link.
 
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