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Most civilisations get a Golden Age fairly early in the game. Obviously
shields and gold increase significantly during the 20 turns of the GA.

Given that a victory by a Unique Unit is generally the reason for the Golden
Age starting, is it best to pump out military units and try and conquer some
territory, or is it best to fight a defensive war, (only as many military
units as is required to defend your territory), and build as much
infrastructure as possible.

I favour the defensive option and can generally get, (say), coliseum and
aqueduct built in many of my cities much quicker than in normal
circumstances.

Phil.
 
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
<phil-m.wells@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Most civilisations get a Golden Age fairly early in the game. Obviously
>shields and gold increase significantly during the 20 turns of the GA.

Only if they use an early UU to trigger the golden age. That is a
matter of choice. If you pick a civ whose early UU is good for
battle, presumably you are also planning to use it to conquer.

>Given that a victory by a Unique Unit is generally the reason for the Golden
>Age starting, is it best to pump out military units and try and conquer some
>territory, or is it best to fight a defensive war, (only as many military
>units as is required to defend your territory), and build as much
>infrastructure as possible.

Conquest pays better than early builds. If we're talking an Ancient
Era golden age, there isn't that much you can build which is worth a
lot at that point, other than wonders.

And in a wonder race, if you're at war, you're giving up a key city
which could turn out a lot of offensive units for conquest. If you
were already building a wonder, OK. But I would switch to units
during wartime in almost any case.

If you were so far ahead that NOT building units and finishing the
war with a gain was satisfactory, then you probably didn't need the
golden age bonus yet either. You should put it off until later, when
the payoff is more effective.


>I favour the defensive option and can generally get, (say), coliseum and
>aqueduct built in many of my cities much quicker than in normal
>circumstances.

I try to make early cities on fresh water squares, so I don't need
aqueducts. If I need colliseums for happiness, I'm better off
churning out workers/settlers to expand, rather than beefing up most
cities. The exception is a couple of possible wonder-making cities,
which need the size, and perhaps a few fast-settler making size 12
cities with plenty of food.

Switching to Monarchy or Republic gives me another way to get the
builds faster -- if I can get the gold. And conquest, as well as
fighting barbarians, are good ways to get gold.

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT Phil Wells <phil-m.wells@ntlworld.com>
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> Most civilisations get a Golden Age fairly early in the game. Obviously
> shields and gold increase significantly during the 20 turns of the GA.

I'm not keen on an early GA, i.e before I've changed governments. The
despotic production cap neutralises a lot of the benefit.

> Given that a victory by a Unique Unit is generally the reason for the Golden
> Age starting, is it best to pump out military units and try and conquer some
> territory, or is it best to fight a defensive war, (only as many military
> units as is required to defend your territory), and build as much
> infrastructure as possible.
>
> I favour the defensive option and can generally get, (say), coliseum and
> aqueduct built in many of my cities much quicker than in normal
> circumstances.

Defensive wars are a losing proposition - better not to be at war at all. I
would never start a war merely to trigger my GA, although I might
deliberately delay an otherwise ripe conflict for a few turns if I'm on the
brink of a new government. I like my wars to be short and decisive, and a
GA can help to make it (more) so. The remaining GA turns can be spent on
infrastructure building.

> Phil.

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accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble.  The world is
moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the
aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker." -- Helen Keller
 
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
<phil-m.wells@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Most civilisations get a Golden Age fairly early in the game. Obviously
>shields and gold increase significantly during the 20 turns of the GA.
>
>Given that a victory by a Unique Unit is generally the reason for the Golden
>Age starting, is it best to pump out military units and try and conquer some
>territory, or is it best to fight a defensive war, (only as many military
>units as is required to defend your territory), and build as much
>infrastructure as possible.
>
>I favour the defensive option and can generally get, (say), coliseum and
>aqueduct built in many of my cities much quicker than in normal
>circumstances.
>
>Phil.
>

My experience in getting Golden Age triggered is by building or
capturing a particular wonder. I am not saying other things won't
trigger it, but that is my short experience.

Buck
 
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"Buck" <noone@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
>
> My experience in getting Golden Age triggered is by building or
> capturing a particular wonder. I am not saying other things won't
> trigger it, but that is my short experience.

Every civ has a unique unit that will trigger a GA the 1st time it wins a
battle if you haven't had one yet.
 
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"The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> "Buck" <noone@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:iojgn050ms5idbhv3rhp1d6ju2klvksiuk@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
>>
>> My experience in getting Golden Age triggered is by building or
>> capturing a particular wonder. I am not saying other things won't
>> trigger it, but that is my short experience.
>
> Every civ has a unique unit that will trigger a GA the 1st time it wins a
> battle if you haven't had one yet.
>


Though do not leave it too long as I have missed out after winning a
battle - after the unit had become obsolete I surmised.

ATB
The Chris
 
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Around 10/22/2004 6:21 PM, The Chris proclaimed for posterity:

> "The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>>"Buck" <noone@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
>>>
>>>My experience in getting Golden Age triggered is by building or
>>>capturing a particular wonder. I am not saying other things won't
>>>trigger it, but that is my short experience.
>>
>>Every civ has a unique unit that will trigger a GA the 1st time it wins a
>>battle if you haven't had one yet.
>>
>
>
>
> Though do not leave it too long as I have missed out after winning a
> battle - after the unit had become obsolete I surmised.
>

Are you sure you didn't just not notice one earlier, perhaps triggered
by wonder construction?

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"Buck" <noone@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:27:54 GMT, "Phil Wells"
> <phil-m.wells@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Most civilisations get a Golden Age fairly early in the game. Obviously
> >shields and gold increase significantly during the 20 turns of the GA.
> >
> >Given that a victory by a Unique Unit is generally the reason for the
Golden
> >Age starting, is it best to pump out military units and try and conquer
some
> >territory, or is it best to fight a defensive war, (only as many military
> >units as is required to defend your territory), and build as much
> >infrastructure as possible.
> >
> >I favour the defensive option and can generally get, (say), coliseum and
> >aqueduct built in many of my cities much quicker than in normal
> >circumstances.
> >
> >Phil.
> >
>
> My experience in getting Golden Age triggered is by building or
> capturing a particular wonder. I am not saying other things won't
> trigger it, but that is my short experience.
>
> Buck
>

4 reply's and no answer... well i would say rest and grow big and prosper in
the golden age. But i always play like that.... first grow realy big let
enemy's fight them wars then after you will be unbeatable... all long games
though 😀

And there are several things that triggers and golden age. And i think for
every specialization of a civilization there are 1 or 2 ways to trigger it.
to answer the duded who didn't read your question 😀.


greets