GOOD $600 PC??? HELP!

[TopABC]

These are the parts for my new build. Tell me what you think? My goal was under $600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138318
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371048
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102913
And for RAM I'm deciding on these two...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
-OR-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104266
I don't know if the 1600mhz RAM will work good with the cpu and the motherboard says 1600mhz (O.C) for memory types so I guess the mobo is ok but will it affect my cpu? HELP! Oh yeah and Rate!

 

[WR2]

Hello TopABC;

Good.... for what? What do you plan to do with this?

 

[TopABC]

Hello TopABC;

Good.... for what? What do you plan to do with this?

Play games pretty much and I do some Youtubing

 

[WR2]

You did a good job choosing your parts.
I was going to suggest a 520W version of your PSU as being enough for your needs but you found a better price, after rebate, on the 620W model.
Everything is compatible and it's looks to be a well balanced system.

You could save a bit getting a 4GB set of RAM which is all you really need.
But either of 8GB sets you listed would work as well. Your motherboard will 'negotiate' with the RAM to get a preferred setting and may choose to run the 1600 RAM as 1333, which is fine.

 

[TopABC]

You did a good job choosing your parts.
I was going to suggest a 520W version of your PSU as being enough for your needs but you found a better price, after rebate, on the 620W model.
Everything is compatible and it's looks to be a well balanced system.

You could save a bit getting a 4GB set of RAM which is all you really need.
But either of 8GB sets you listed would work as well. Your motherboard will 'negotiate' with the RAM to get a preferred setting and may choose to run the 1600 RAM as 1333, which is fine.

How long would 4gb of RAM last me?

 

[WR2]

8-10 years, easy. You'll probably need a new system before you need more RAM.
And its one are where - you can easily add more later if you ever decide you need more.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

4 gb would be fine. However, I can offer a more powerful system for $600

i5-2400: $190
AS Rock H61-M/U3S3: $75
Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR-1333 kit: $25
Seagate 500 GB HDD: $40
Xigmatek 400W PSU: $35
Sapphire HD 6870: $175
DVD Burner: $19
Rosewill Blackbone case: $37
$596

 

[TopABC]

Best answer selected by TopABC.

 

[TopABC]

8-10 years, easy. You'll probably need a new system before you need more RAM.
And its one are where - you can easily add more later if you ever decide you need more.

Oh thanks 8gb wouldn't give me much more performance right?

 

[WR2]

There are some things (audio and video editing for example) where more RAM is really useful but for gaming and the usual home office/school work you get almost no performance advantage with 8GB vs 4GB.

ScrewySqrl's option does give you a better CPU (as it should at the higher price).
But there again, with the same video card, in a lot of games, the performance to be 'close enough' to being equal.
A few games, mostly RPGs and MMOs would favor the faster CPU. Starcraft II would be an example.

 

[TopABC]

There are some things (audio and video editing for example) where more RAM is really useful but for gaming and the usual home office/school work you get almost no performance advantage with 8GB vs 4GB.

ScrewySqrl's option does give you a better CPU (as it should at the higher price).
But there again, with the same video card, in a lot of games, the performance to be 'close enough' to being equal.
A few games, mostly RPGs and MMOs would favor the faster CPU. Starcraft II would be an example.

People on say that they get more fps in games on the topic of 4gb vs 8gb..and I'll mostly be using my computer for gaming purposes

 

[WR2]

Of course they say that. They're not going to say they get less, are they?

THG Article: Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM?
Tested with 3GB, 6GB and 12GB of RAM on a OC'd Core i7 920 / GeForce GTX260 system;
Just one of the several games tested in that link:

 

[WR2]

A more recent example. Posted in another forum by a serious gamer.


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[TopABC]

Of course they say that. They're not going to say they get less, are they?

THG Article: Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM?
Tested with 3GB, 6GB and 12GB of RAM on a OC'd Core i7 920 / GeForce GTX260 system;
Just one of the several games tested in that link:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/5/193721/original/memory_capacity-04.png

Wow lol. No wonder your an expert. So why do people say 8gb is better if there are test that its basically the same?

 

[WR2]

It's mostly just easier to let people believe what they want.
And also, it won't hurt performance (which is most important) and the cost difference is small enough these days not to make an issue out of it for people NOT on a tight budget.

 

[WR2]

You'll get a bigger performance boost giving your CPU and GPU a little overclock - you can do that for free - than for adding an extra 4GB of RAM.

 

[TopABC]

You'll get a bigger performance boost giving your CPU and GPU a little overclock - you can do that for free - than for adding an extra 4GB of RAM.

Yeah thanks for the info Uh one more question lol Does 4gb 1600Mhz clock work with this motherboard?
Biostar a870 here's what is says below
Memory Standard : DDR3 800/1066/1333(supportted by CPU model)/1600(OC)
And my processor is the phenom ii x4 955 Black Edition
So is the RAM, Mobo, and processor able to all work together with no problems?

 

[WR2]

Works fine.
The motherboard is smart enough to figure out how best to use the different types of RAM you could install.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

the OC means you have to manually set the speed and timings, but the motherboard will handle it from there

 

[TopABC]

the OC means you have to manually set the speed and timings, but the motherboard will handle it from there

oh i dont wanna oc my ram haha

 

[WR2]

More than likely your MB will decide to run your 1600 RAM @ 1333.
No problem there. You have the option to manually tweak the settings later on when you learn more about it.

 

[TopABC]

Hmm, I ok