Good deal for new build? G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

I was wondering if this is a good deal I should take advantage of for a desktop I'll be building soon. The 15% off promotion is ending 5/17.

I'd like to use it with this preliminary build:
-i5-4670K
-ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
-EVGA GTX 770 4gb
-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
-Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case
-256gb SSD (not sure which one yet)
-2TB 7200rpm HD (not sure which one yet...may even do 2x 1TB 7200rpm)
-SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

And if so, should I be worried about size or anything else?
 

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It seem to be a good deal , however you dont really need 16GB for gaming. just get a 8GB ( 2x4GB, 1600Mhz minimum) and be happy with it.
Still, if you have some extra bucks to spent you may wanna grab it.
Again to mention 16GB for gaming nah not at all. For intensive stuff like rendering / video editing or some GFX stuff you may need it. But 8 GB still be fine for gaming + casual video editing.

SSD go for Samsung 840 PRO great for price.
 

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You won't need 256GB of SSD , and 1TB is enough to put your games on , you might wanna go with a 1.5TB maybe but you won't need more .
Here's a good build :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ Mwave)
Total: $1295.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 15:21 EDT-0400)

We might need to know how much money you have to get a good build
 

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Thanks for the help.

Here's what I'm looking for:

-Very quite

-Ease of installation

-I'd like the GPU to be able to handle 4K displays since I may buy a TV with this resolution down the road

-Good manufacturer support for components, especially GPU

-I'd like to be able to also smoothly perform raw image (photoshop/lightroom) and video editing (personal use - not professional). Wouldn't 16gb of ram be better for this and make my system more future proof? I also read that Haswell favors 16gb.

-I'd also like to keep the SSD HD at 256gb and standard HD at 2TB (or 2x 1TB?). I feel like this is safer than having to one day get more space in both types.

-Already have a new Windows 7 disc

-I don't mind paying a bit over $1,200 if it's really worth it




Questions:

Why did you choose ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard over Z77?

Why did you choose Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W over the SeaSonic 620W? Which is quieter and better quality?

Is the GTX 780 that much better in regards to future proofing? I only play Diablo 3 at the moment since that's all I have time for, but I could potentially pick up a new-ish FPS in the future.

Is this a good deal right now?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIG47JC/ref=asc_df_B00EIG47JC3059582?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pg-469-01-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395097&creativeASIN=B00EIG47JC
 

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A:Because the mobo is future proof

B:The cooler master pro silence is quieter , and has about the same performance as the seasonic 620W

C:The 780 is a very good future proof GPU , but you might want to get the 4GB version over the 2GB one if you want to play in 4K res.

D:I would personally go with MSI , and it's a little bit too expensive I'd say

Oh and i forgot that you needed 16GB
The build will cost around 1340$
Do you need an Optical drive ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($167.48 @ Mwave)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($151.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($120.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1324.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 01:17 EDT-0400)

If you want 16GB of ram , 2TB of storage and a 250GB ssd you will have to sacrifice the 780 for a 770 . They're both good , but the 780 would've been better for 4K

And if you want a seasonic psu ...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($167.48 @ Mwave)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($151.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($120.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1359.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 01:20 EDT-0400)

The CPU , GPU , RAM , SSD and HDD can be upgraded later without any problem
Personally i would go with a Zalman Z11 + case , it looks nice and is cheaper
And you don't need thermal paste , as the stock intel cooler comes with the thermal paste pre-applied and the hyper 212 evo comes with a tube of thermal paste
If you're not gonna overclock you can save some money by getting the 4670 and removing the aftermarket cpu cooler
Or you can also get the Corsair 650D case , which is really easy to install your mobo in , ssd , hdd , etc... but it is a bit more expensive ( about 150$ )
+ NeweggTV made a 3 part tutorial on how to build a PC with the exact same case , so you shouldn't have too much trouble :D
Also , do you need a monitor/keyboard/mice ?
 

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Thank you so much, good sir.

-Think I'll stick with 4670k as opposed to non-k just in case I feel like OC-ing down the road

-Regarding the Z87, what's the difference between pro3 and pro4?

-I'll take your word regarding the Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 - 620W. My concern now is if getting a full modular power supply is better for me? Also, do you think I'll be making a mistake not getting a higher wattage power supply in case I decide to go SLI one day. Then again, I've never done so before and am not a uber-hardcore gamer.

-If I get the GTX 770 I'll definitely be getting the 4gb version. Any particular reason why you prefer MSI?

-I'm really surprised you're hinting that a 770 may have trouble with 4k. I'm only concerned about movie watching through it at that resolution - not games. Still 780?

-Now, if I do decide to treat myself and go with a 780 I think the EVGA would be a better choice for me since it's known to be quiet, which is what I'm looking for.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130951

-Regarding 16gb, wouldn't it be better if I go with G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 which is on promotion and would save me $40 (15% off $154). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

-Regarding the case, I picked the Fractal Design Define R4 because it's known for being super quiet as opposed to the corsair 650D you recommend. Will I have a more difficult time with the installation with the Fractal?

-I do need an optical drive, but not a keyboard or mouse


Here's what I have based on your recommendations and what I mentioned in this post if I go for the 780:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sIKs
 

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-The Pro4 supports crossfire .
-Full modular PSU's require more cable managment experiences .
-I prefer MSI due to some already overclocked products ,which means way more performance in gaming
-If it's only for movie watching , i don't think you'll actually have any problem with the 770 - I thought you wanted to be gaming in 4K . And you're right , you better get the 4GB one , the gpu will be more efficient with this amount of vram . You can go for a 780 if you really want to , but a 770 will be enough for your requirements and play the latest games at high or ultra
-I have no experience with the Fractal , so i can't say that it would be easier or harder - You can go on youtube and see some builds with it , and make your choice . Though it does seem like you're not gonna have too much difficulties with it
-You can go with that build , but again , you can go with a 770 and save some money if you're just gonna watch movies .

 

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And now i understand why you want a 250GB SSD - It's for faster acces to the programs you use the most , right ?
And i also understand why you need 2TB of storage . It's because you'll be storing alot of photos , movies , and the games can take up to 28GB now

Personally i'd only need 1TB and a 120GB SSD , because I'd only use the PC for gaming
That's why i mainly was going for those two
 

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Yup, you nailed it with the space requirements. I also take raw photos with my DSLR for adobe lightroom editing and they take a ton of space + lightroom takes forever with them when using my current old setup.

Hmm, so now I need sit down and think about this - GTX 770 4gb or GTX 780 3gb...

With the current promotions, I'm looking at an $80 difference. Is it really worth it to be overly future proof if I haven't played a truly resource intensive game in a long time and only want 4K for movie watching.

On the flipside, what if a ground breaking new game comes out and I can't run it on max settings...

Also, found these two new deals from newegg:

http://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/guerrilla/LP/14-Apr/index-SSD11016.html?nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=1909457&SID=

1) Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm for 109.99 with promo

2) SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R Model SH-224DB/BEBE for 14.99 with promo

Worth it?


Also, so is this a good deal or do you still recommend the Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568
 

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wouldn't recommend a 770 looking at your budget and your choice of resolution.
780 in 4GB should be chosen as per your budget.
Even R9 290 is also a good choice..
 

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I'd say keep the samsung EVO 840 250GB because it's a high quality SSD , and the optical drive doesn't matter that much , you can choose any dvd drive you want .
Even a GTX 760 plays BF4 on ultra and the gpu isn't using all his processors , it only uses about 80% i think , i can't remember , so the 770 will give a much better performance than the 760 and definetly would be future proof , and the 780 is for 4K gaming , for games like Watch Dogs , it will be able to run in 4K res.
As long as the game isn't running in 4K res. you will definetly be able to max out the settings , and will never go under 30FPS
 

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If it's only for movies , why would he need a 780 ?
 

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I'm known to go overboard on my purchases, but I'm just wondering like Andrei65 is saying if it's just truly unnecessary to have a 780.

I mean I only have time to play Diablo 3 right now...

And if down the road I decide to pick up a resource heavy game it sounds like the 770 4gb will still manage on the highest settings.

Still not sure tbh.

When I built my last computer ages ago, I bought one of the latest and greatest gpu's - 8800 gts 640mb if you guys remember. It was certainly nice being able to do max settings for a couple years with it. Now it can't even handle Diablo 3...
 

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Makes me wonder if the future is 1440p monitors...
 

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4K looks quite good , but i agree , i don't think that playing in 1440p will be possible any soon
Well , if you need any more help , you can ask the community or me if you want to .
And sorry for the long wait time , I almost forgot my password for this account :p
 

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No worries. I ended up purchasing this configuration: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sPS2

Do I need anything else for the installation? Like extra SATA cables?

Also, down the road I may be getting a new 24+" monitor. What brands/specs should I be looking at or avoiding?
 

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You REALLY should avoid Coolmax , their PSU's are cheap , but complete POS , other then that i guess every other brands are pretty good .
I don't think you need extra SATA cables .
Anyway the rig you choosed is good , you will be able to play diablo 3 and the upcoming games at high/ultra without any problem .

I'm glad i was able to help you !
 

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Here's the rig i'm gonna get ( i have a 950€ budget )
Even though I really like MSI , I want a gigabyte 760 , it's pre overclocked and has more fans to keep it cool

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case ($73.03 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor ($128.18 @ Mwave)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1125.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Well btter would be cancel the SSD and get a Graphic card. Because Graphic card is what going to get you more performance than a SSD.
get a 770 instead.
 

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Nah I really want an SSD , and the 760 is good enough for me .
 

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Thanks again. And your setup looks awesome for that price. May actually recommend a friend to use exactly that setup.

For future proofing, is an i5-4670 a good choice for us?

Also, what are the best guides out there for installation? I'm especially worried I'll miss something with the mobo installation/configuration and not properly utilize the SSD.
 

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Hehe , it's about 1150$ on pcpartpicker , i can only buy these parts from amazon.fr .

It will , but the mobo will not support the Xeon's if you ever decide to get one . You could easily upgrade to a 4770K though , that's not going to be a problem , so yeah i guess it is a good future proof choice for you and your friend , but make sure that he gets a B75 mobo if he's gonna get a 4670 ( non K ) , because the non k series can not be overclocked .
The best guide that I personally suggest for the installation is NeweggTV's tutorial
Here are the links :
You don't need to watch the first part because he's not building anything , he's just telling you how to choose your parts , but you already choosed them , and are all compatible .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok
Make sure that you keep your mobo's guide , you WILL need it later while installing the case's cables .

Everything you should be worried about is to touch the pins under the CPU , with some attention , you'll manage to put it correctly in place , without touching any pin .

Also , if you're going to go with the i5-4670 , you can remove the cpu cooler , as it's there only if you're gonna overclock , because the stock cooler isn't good for overclocking