good enough for gaming ?

[Sharkeye90]

Hello am on a budget around of 500 usd and i can go a little higher, but i prefer to go a little lower if there's a chance, i've seen some good of some good emtry level parts for gaming and used pc part picker to combine them all together and it goes like in this link:
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I'd like to go with amd and the fx 6300 is a beast at its current price compared to other i5's or even i3's .. Am not sure if i shud go with apu but its a bit complicated due to the ram clock thing .

The mother board looks just amazing and thats why it attracted me with all the good reciews also and the OC genie ... Etc .

The gfx card is the best at that budget level fron what i read on reviews .. But i feel it's a little overpriced or maybe if there's another gfx with equal performance and cheaper price .

The cooling fan i guess its the best for entry level, good ?

The HDD the size is just enough for me cause i like to save on large data, but about the speed ? Any performance effects if theres a faster HDD with the same price and same size or a little less ? P.s i can't afford an ssd .

The psu, i don't know which one to choose yet as im afraid of mischoosing for the price/efficiency and how many watts i need for now and for the future upgrades ?

The ram, i dont know which to choose from the super many diffrent ones with diffrent clocks and volts and sizes, p.s the mobo supports up to 2133 and has 4 slots of ram .. Should i use all the slots ? For example if i am going to install 8gb of ram.. Should i buy 4x2gb ? Any diffrence even if i go with just one stick of 8gb ? And what the clock ?

The case, there are plenty too .. Am not a big fan of fancy stuff so all i need is a good one for a cheap price that lets the airflows goes well and isolates the outside temp from inside temp and vice -versa and doesn't shock me when i touch it while standing on floor with bare feet and made of solid material ... Does a case like that exist ?

I need your help please and thank you so much in advance, i know how exhausting to read all that stuff and helping a bit of a noob like me .. But i'd really appreciate ur efforts in helping and explaining to me .

 

[Derza10]

The link you posted takes you to the part list, but has none of your parts listed. You need to use the Permalink.

 

[Sharkeye90]

Sorry for that .. I hope it works now .

 

[Derza10]

I'd go with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $443.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-08 15:10 EDT-0400

gives you a much better upgrade path with the CPU (the i3 will outperform the 6300 in most games) and has a better video card.

 

[geofelt]

The FX-6300 is a decent value, but I would not count it as amazing.
Few games are going to use more than 2 of the 6 cores.
Here is an older comparison which includes the FX-6300 and some older i3 cpus.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-9.html
Still, the FX-6300 is the only AMD cpu that even makes honorable mention on toms best gaming cpus for the money list:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
One problem with any FX is that the cores are slow and all you can do for an upgrade is add more cores.

Since you have a budget, I suggest the cheaper i3-4160 and using a slightly stronger GTX750ti card.
You can buy a Z97 motherboard that will give you all sorts of upgrade options; i5, i7, and 14nm broadwell.
Here is one@$67:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/ecs-motherboard-z97pkv10
The stock cooler is fine.
Intel does not depend on fast ram at all. Buy the cheapest 2 x 4gb kit of ddr3 1600 or 1866 ram.
2 sticks gives you faster dual channel operation. Do not go past 2 sticks.

The GTX750ti only needs a 300w psu if you do not buy one of the overclocked versions that need a 6 pin power connector.
But, 400-550w power supplies are no more expensive than 300w. The key is to buy a quality unit.
I bight buy this xfx 550w unit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9
It is strong enough to run even a GTX980.

Cases are a personal thing. A cheap case will do the job. But... cases also last a long time, buy one you will want to keep.

 

[Sharkeye90]

Ok i think i'll go with the i3 instead as it seems better in power consumption, but as far as i know it's a dual core processor .. So what's the diffrence between the i3 4160 and the pentium G3258 ?
Do u also think if i upgraded to i5 in the future with the R9 280x i won't suffer with bottlenecks ? And the same for the gtx 750 ti ? And what's better between the both of gfx cards ?
And if i wanted to overclock the cpu do i need a professional cooler or the stock is just enough ?
Thank you

 

[Sharkeye90]

One last thing i forgot to ask about is amd's apu series .. I've heard it's revolutionary in price/performance for a cpu + gpu .. I've seen on youtube a few games running on ultra settings with fps around 60 on a low end fm2+ motherboard ... Do u guys think it's better than the intel core or amd fx series with discrete gpus ? And what if i go with an apu + a discrete gfx card - better performance than i3 or fx with a gtx or R ?

 

[Derza10]

Ok i think i'll go with the i3 instead as it seems better in power consumption, but as far as i know it's a dual core processor .. So what's the diffrence between the i3 4160 and the pentium G3258 ?
Do u also think if i upgraded to i5 in the future with the R9 280x i won't suffer with bottlenecks ? And the same for the gtx 750 ti ? And what's better between the both of gfx cards ?
And if i wanted to overclock the cpu do i need a professional cooler or the stock is just enough ?
Thank you

Its a dual core with hyper threading, it can do 4 threads at a time while the G3258 can only do 2 threads. The r9 280x is far more powerful than the GTX 750 Ti, when/if you upgrade to an i5 the 280x will not be a bottleneck. For overclocking you will want an aftermarket cooler, you can get good ones for ~$30.

 

[Derza10]

One last thing i forgot to ask about is amd's apu series .. I've heard it's revolutionary in price/performance for a cpu + gpu .. I've seen on youtube a few games running on ultra settings with fps around 60 on a low end fm2+ motherboard ... Do u guys think it's better than the intel core or amd fx series with discrete gpus ? And what if i go with an apu + a discrete gfx card - better performance than i3 or fx with a gtx or R ?

APUs are good for not very demanding games (and very low budgets), the i3 and r9 280x will be about 5x better than any APU system in gaming.

 

[Sharkeye90]

Ok so for now am aiming at the i3 4160 and r9 280x/gtx 750 ti .
What about the motherboard ? Any z97 budget one would be enough ? There are some cool budget msi gaming series that i'd love to get but i dunno about it's true performance .
And the ram thing again, the recommended clock speed i should go with for an 2x4gb ?

 

[Derza10]

For a gaming computer you only need 8 gb of ram, i would get case 9 1866 - at the prices right now i'd get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $57.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-08 17:43 EDT-0400