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I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
router/firewall. Why either? Because I haven't figured out precisely
the topology of my house yet, so if a good firewall is wired and cheap
then so be it.

If wired, I suspect I'll be looking for 802.11g or a. Hopefully the a's
will come down a bit since the 2.4Ghz band is cluttered beyond belief in
my neighborhood. My phone is a non-spread-spectrum 2.4 and is almost
unusable now.

NAT is important to me, and I know I can configure routers to pass
through incoming UDP, but I've still heard that some routers will have
the NAT logic slow down the throughput noticably.

Is this true? Are there any favorite brands out there that you high
speed gamers like?

I am reading some dissatisfaction with both netgear and belkin online.

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Thomas G. Marshall enlightened us with:
> I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
> router/firewall.

I use a simple Linux box. We plugged in a wireless PCI card and it
worked, so now we have a wireless router as well ;-) It can do NAT, port
forwarding, network trafic shaping, proxying, and everything else you'd
like.

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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:lkOsc.16849$yc4.7019@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>
> I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
> router/firewall. Why either? Because I haven't figured out precisely
> the topology of my house yet, so if a good firewall is wired and cheap
> then so be it.
>
> If wired, I suspect I'll be looking for 802.11g or a. Hopefully the a's
> will come down a bit since the 2.4Ghz band is cluttered beyond belief in
> my neighborhood. My phone is a non-spread-spectrum 2.4 and is almost
> unusable now.
>
> NAT is important to me, and I know I can configure routers to pass
> through incoming UDP, but I've still heard that some routers will have
> the NAT logic slow down the throughput noticably.
>
> Is this true? Are there any favorite brands out there that you high
> speed gamers like?
>
> I am reading some dissatisfaction with both netgear and belkin online.
>
> --
> http://www.allexperts.com is a nifty way to get an answer to just about
> /anything/.
>
>


I use a linksys 8 port wired router, and have never had any issues with it.
I personally would stay away from wireless, especially if you live in a
place where wireless is prevalent, like it seems to be in your neighborhood.

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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in news:lkOsc.16849$yc4.7019@nwrdny02.gnilink.net:

> I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
> router/firewall.

Take somebody's cast-off PC and load this on it:

http://www.clarkconnect.org/
 
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Margolis <someone@somewhere.org> coughed up the following:

> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:lkOsc.16849$yc4.7019@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>>
>> I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
>> router/firewall. Why either? Because I haven't figured out
>> precisely
>> the topology of my house yet, so if a good firewall is wired and
>> cheap
>> then so be it.
>>
>> If wired, I suspect I'll be looking for 802.11g or a. Hopefully the
>> a's will come down a bit since the 2.4Ghz band is cluttered beyond
>> belief in
>> my neighborhood. My phone is a non-spread-spectrum 2.4 and is almost
>> unusable now.
>>
>> NAT is important to me, and I know I can configure routers to pass
>> through incoming UDP, but I've still heard that some routers will
>> have
>> the NAT logic slow down the throughput noticably.
>>
>> Is this true? Are there any favorite brands out there that you high
>> speed gamers like?
>>
>> I am reading some dissatisfaction with both netgear and belkin
>> online.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.allexperts.com is a nifty way to get an answer to just
>> about /anything/.
>>
>>
>
>
> I use a linksys 8 port wired router, and have never had any issues
> with it.
> I personally would stay away from wireless, especially if you live in
> a
> place where wireless is prevalent, like it seems to be in your
> neighborhood.

Even 11a? Are any of you experiencing signal collision to any great
extent yet on A?




> --
>
> Margolis
>
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> http://www.unrealtower.org/faq

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Margolis <someone@somewhere.org> coughed up the following:

> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:lkOsc.16849$yc4.7019@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>>
>> I'm looking for a good and inexpensive wired or wireless
>> router/firewall. Why either? Because I haven't figured out
>> precisely
>> the topology of my house yet, so if a good firewall is wired and
>> cheap
>> then so be it.
>>
>> If wired, I suspect I'll be looking for 802.11g or a. Hopefully the
>> a's will come down a bit since the 2.4Ghz band is cluttered beyond
>> belief in
>> my neighborhood. My phone is a non-spread-spectrum 2.4 and is almost
>> unusable now.
>>
>> NAT is important to me, and I know I can configure routers to pass
>> through incoming UDP, but I've still heard that some routers will
>> have
>> the NAT logic slow down the throughput noticably.
>>
>> Is this true? Are there any favorite brands out there that you high
>> speed gamers like?
>>
>> I am reading some dissatisfaction with both netgear and belkin
>> online.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.allexperts.com is a nifty way to get an answer to just
>> about /anything/.
>>
>>
>
>
> I use a linksys 8 port wired router, and have never had any issues
> with it.

Great! Do you by any chance have a model number handy?

Thanks!


> I personally would stay away from wireless, especially if you live in
> a
> place where wireless is prevalent, like it seems to be in your
> neighborhood.
>
> --
>
> Margolis
>
http://web.archive.org/web/20030215212142/http://www.agqx.org/faqs/AGQ2FAQ.htm
> http://www.unrealtower.org/faq

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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:UU3tc.22317$yc4.11052@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>
> Great! Do you by any chance have a model number handy?
>
> Thanks!
>
>


I use the befsr81 which is the 8 port. there is also something like the
befsr41 which is the same except it is 4port. I have never tried any of
the wireless routers, since I am a wired type of guy, so I can't comment on
their functionality.

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"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
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>
> Take somebody's cast-off PC and load this on it:
>
> http://www.clarkconnect.org/


the only problem with that is that you have to have a whole shitload of
nic's in the machine. One for the internet connection and then one for each
computer to connect too. And then because it is a software solution, it
will be slower than a hardware router, especially if a slow computer is
used for it.

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Margolis wrote:
> "Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
> wrote in message news:UU3tc.22317$yc4.11052@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>
>>Great! Do you by any chance have a model number handy?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
> I use the befsr81 which is the 8 port. there is also something like the
> befsr41 which is the same except it is 4port. I have never tried any of
> the wireless routers, since I am a wired type of guy, so I can't comment on
> their functionality.

I have the 41 and it works great.

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Margolis wrote:

>> Take somebody's cast-off PC and load this on it:
>>
>> http://www.clarkconnect.org/

Or smoothwall
http://www.smoothwall.org

>
> the only problem with that is that you have to have a whole shitload of
> nic's in the machine. One for the internet connection and then one for
> each
> computer to connect too.

Not quite right, one in and one out and a little hub or switch.

> And then because it is a software solution, it
> will be slower than a hardware router, especially if a slow computer is
> used for it.

Well thats a complete crock of misinformed nonsense. What do you think makes
your "hardware" router work? Yup, thats right, software. What are you
doing, do you think, when you upgrade the firmware? Yup, thats right,
installing a new version of the software that makes your device function.
A old 486 or pentium something or other has no problems whatsoever handling
the routing functions and as Meltdown said it can do so much more as well.

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> Not quite right, one in and one out and a little hub or switch.

That is true if the server doesn't have to host any computers (serving
alone.. duh!). We all know every client needs a network card to connect
to a network, don't we.
 
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sid <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> coughed up the following:

> Margolis wrote:
>
>>> Take somebody's cast-off PC and load this on it:
>>>
>>> http://www.clarkconnect.org/
>
> Or smoothwall
> http://www.smoothwall.org
>
>>
>> the only problem with that is that you have to have a whole shitload
>> of nic's in the machine. One for the internet connection and then
>> one for each
>> computer to connect too.
>
> Not quite right, one in and one out and a little hub or switch.
>
>> And then because it is a software solution, it
>> will be slower than a hardware router, especially if a slow
>> computer is used for it.
>
> Well thats a complete crock of misinformed nonsense. What do you
> think makes your "hardware" router work? Yup, thats right, software.

I was guessing that it might be stamped out as microcode (not assembly)
by now, given how long these things have been out. That's a much lower
level notion of "programming" and is part of hardware design.

Again, I "guess".



> What are you doing, do you think, when you upgrade the firmware? Yup,
> thats right, installing a new version of the software that makes your
> device function.
> A old 486 or pentium something or other has no problems whatsoever
> handling the routing functions and as Meltdown said it can do so much
> more as well.
>
> --
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> RLU 300284 Mdk 10 2.6.3-13
> My barber's getting very hard of hearing,
> I asked him to make me look like a *count*.....

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"sid" <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Well thats a complete crock of misinformed nonsense.


the only crock here is worthless flamers like you that don't even take the
time to actually think about what was said ;o(

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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in news:Z_utc.27396$yc4.11240@nwrdny02.gnilink.net:

> I was guessing that it might be stamped out as microcode (not assembly)
> by now, given how long these things have been out. That's a much lower
> level notion of "programming" and is part of hardware design.

Such things exist, but only in expensive routers that need to swing massive
amounts of bandwidth on the backbone. The fancier ones do it optically,
swinging micro-mechanical mirrors to direct traffic from one fiber port to
another.

Ordinary residential routers are just cheap micros that move packets in
software. Linksys is using Linux in its routers, but some companies may use
a proprietary little OS for the job. I expect ARM processors to be pretty
popular for these things.

I've served over a hundred workstations with a P266 with 128 MB of memory
running Red Hat 7.2, while it's simultaneously scanning inbound email for
spam with SpamAssassin. Routing and firewalling take very little resources,
and it hums right along even when the box is otherwise lagged out scanning
spam and I can't shell into it from the load.

I don't know if Clarkconnect includes any shaping stuff, but if it doesn't,
grab the Wondershaper script at http://lartc.org/. This is just a shell
script that sets the Linux traffic shaping kernel system to protect your
game clients from your P2P clients, making routing more "fair" by
prioritizing "real time" traffic and setting up a round robin packet
queuing system. (The default Linux queue is just a FIFO, but there's
machinery for very elaborate queuing strategies in there if you know how to
get at it.) For Wondershaper, set two values at the top of the script for
your upload and download speed and run it to set up the kernel queues.
 
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"Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in
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> the only problem with that is that you have to have a whole shitload
> of nic's in the machine. One for the internet connection and then one
> for each computer to connect too.

Use an external switch. Then you need two NIC's, one for the WAN and one
for the LAN. Commercial residential routers normally include a small switch
inside the box.

Note that I only recommend this if you already have a cast-off box and some
NIC's lying about, and you want the extreme flexibility that Linux gives
you. Most gamers can get away with the capability of an off-the-shelf
residential router.

I use a Linux gateway because it also serves as a mail hub and I like the
ability to shape traffic to protect game traffic from P2P, web, and mail
traffic. All my UDP goes to the front of the line, while the rest of the
bulk stuff takes the slow boat.
 
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Margolis wrote:

>
>
> "sid" <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:88stc.4485$lj2.43042852@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Well thats a complete crock of misinformed nonsense.
>
>
> the only crock here is worthless flamers like you that don't even take the
> time to actually think about what was said ;o(
>
There is no need to be so touchy, I cant see where I have deserved your
insults. What you said is wrong thats all I was trying to point out. As
far as thinking about what was said goes, I obviously did as I replied
directly to the point made by you which is more than can be said of your
reply to me.

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"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
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> "Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in
> news:10bblrtt85jdf12@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
> Use an external switch. Then you need two NIC's, one for the WAN and one


ok, didn't think of that. I was thinking you meant to use the computer buy
itself.

If you already have an old computer and a switch this might not be a bad
idea. But if you have to buy a switch, then it seems that going the
commercial router way would be more economical, since the routers like these
cheap linksys don't really cost much more than a plain switch costs ;o(

I can see why you are doing it your way though. You are doing a lot more
with your 'extra' computer/router/firewall than most gamers will need ;o)


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sid <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> coughed up the following:

> Margolis wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sid" <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:88stc.4485$lj2.43042852@news-text.cableinet.net...
>>> Well thats a complete crock of misinformed nonsense.
>>
>>
>> the only crock here is worthless flamers like you that don't even
>> take the time to actually think about what was said ;o(
>>
> There is no need to be so touchy, I cant see where I have deserved
> your insults. What you said is wrong thats all I was trying to point
> out. As far as thinking about what was said goes, I obviously did as
> I replied directly to the point made by you which is more than can be
> said of your reply to me.

I might have reacted the same way. Your statements

Well thats a complete crock of misinformed
nonsense. What do you think makes your
"hardware" router work? Yup, thats right, software.

really sound as if you are trying to intentionally belittle and insult
rather than merely disagree. But it seems that you were technically
correct.


>
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> RLU 300284 Mdk 10 2.6.3-13
> My barber's getting very hard of hearing,
> I asked him to make me look like a *count*.....


It took a second before I got this. Toooooo funny..... :)


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Thomas G. Marshall wrote:

>
> I might have reacted the same way. Your statements
>
> Well thats a complete crock of misinformed
> nonsense. What do you think makes your
> "hardware" router work? Yup, thats right, software.
>
> really sound as if you are trying to intentionally belittle and insult
> rather than merely disagree. But it seems that you were technically
> correct.

I appreciate that, but I was replying to a blanket statement that was given
in a manner that implied it was the truth. Completely false statements are
always going to be met, rightly or wrongly, with a certain amount of
derision. Usenet should not really be taken too personally, should it?

>> --
>> sid
>> RLU 300284 Mdk 10 2.6.3-13
>> My barber's getting very hard of hearing,
>> I asked him to make me look like a *count*.....
>
>
> It took a second before I got this. Toooooo funny..... :)

You're the first to comment on this, I don't know how many *do* get it, but
I agree with you. 😱)

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"sid" <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I appreciate that, but I was replying to a blanket statement that was
given
> in a manner that implied it was the truth. Completely false statements are
> always going to be met, rightly or wrongly, with a certain amount of
> derision. Usenet should not really be taken too personally, should it?
>
>


Yes usenet is personal when you flame like that. Usenet is supposed to be
friendly, especially here in this group. If you were a regular here you
would know that. And you say I am completely wrong and you are 100% right.
And that is not the case at all, you make the same mistake that you accuse
me of. You make a lot of assumptions and statements in your condescending
flame that are false, yet you say them as if they are the absolute truth.
Your post was nothing but a worthless flame, so you get no respect from me.
ScratchMonkey on the other hand knows how to make valid points and argue
with civility.

You seem to think that a hardware router is nothing but a cheap computer
running a software program, and that is not the case. They have special
purpose cpu's in them that do one thing and do it well. they also have
other dedicated hardware that does some of the work. The software is just
there to help the hardware, it is not doing 100% of the work like a computer
would be doing. A general purpose cpu like a 486 with a 100% software
solution is not going to be able to match the performance of a hardware
router, no matter what you think. It may get the job done, but it is not
going to be as efficient as a hardware router, imho.

If you don't know how to behave in a usenet group, especially one like this
group with a lot of 'friends' in it, then don't post here. We don't need
more worthless flaming trolls here, and that is exactly how your post came
across.


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Margolis wrote:

> Yes usenet is personal when you flame like that.

I'm not flaming anyone.

> Usenet is supposed to be friendly, especially here in this group. If you
>were a regular here

I am, and have been for nearly 3 years.

> you would know that. And you say I am completely >wrong and you are 100%
> right. And that is not the case at all, you make the same mistake that you
> accuse
> me of. You make a lot of assumptions and statements in your condescending
> flame that are false,

No, there were 2 statements. Hardware firewalls are running software to
function and by defenition software is not slower than software.

> yet you say them as if they are the absolute truth.
> Your post was nothing but a worthless flame,

No it wasn't, it raised valid points that you have yet to disprove.

> so you get no respect from me.

Oh well

> ScratchMonkey on the other hand knows how to make valid points and
> argue with civility.
>
> You seem to think that a hardware router is nothing but a cheap computer
> running a software program, and that is not the case.

Isn't it? Most especially the cheaper end of the market SOHO routers run
some sort of embeded linux or *BSD. Expensive things like cisco's have
there own propriatory O/S.

> A general purpose cpu like a 486 with a 100% software
> solution is not going to be able to match the performance of a hardware
> router, no matter what you think.

yes it will, a 486 DX100 will max out a 10Mb link, a P2 350 happily handles
30Mbps input and output and a p3 733 maxes out a 100Mb link, how fast is
your net connection?

> It may get the job done, but it is not
> going to be as efficient as a hardware router, imho.

yes it is

> If you don't know how to behave in a usenet group, especially one like
> this
> group with a lot of 'friends' in it, then don't post here.

I do and I will

> We don't need
> more worthless flaming trolls here,

You're the only one calling people names

> and that is exactly how your post came
> across.

I apologise for offending you.

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Margolis enlightened us with:
> Yes usenet is personal when you flame like that. Usenet is supposed to
> be friendly, especially here in this group. If you were a regular
> here you would know that.

And if you were a regular, you'd know sid is a regular here. Don't make
assumptions.

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"Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in
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> But if you have to buy a switch, then it seems that going the
> commercial router way would be more economical, since the routers like
> these cheap linksys don't really cost much more than a plain switch
> costs ;o(

True. It wasn't always so. When I set up my gateway, there was no such
thing as a consumer router, and even dumb switches were expensive.
Everybody used hubs.

> I can see why you are doing it your way though. You are doing a lot
> more with your 'extra' computer/router/firewall than most gamers will
> need ;o)

Yep, I'm using the gateway as a mail hub. Fetchmail can pull mail from the
ISP's and do SpamAssassin spam filtering and Clam virus filtering, and
sendmail on the gateway can queue outbound mail if the connection is down.
I can ssh in and then tunnel VNC from the office to my home desktop or vice
versa.
 
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sid <sidshouse@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:Y66uc.679
$8A1.7441553@news-text.cableinet.net:

>> You seem to think that a hardware router is nothing but a cheap computer
>> running a software program, and that is not the case.
>
> Isn't it? Most especially the cheaper end of the market SOHO routers run
> some sort of embeded linux or *BSD. Expensive things like cisco's have
> there own propriatory O/S.

Ciscos may also include a "switch fabric", a chipset designed to buffer and
switch packets with minimal software intervention. Similarly, many modern
NIC's include a degree of hardware TCP header processing, particularly to
support IPSec encryption on high-traffic servers. The NIC may also be a bus
master with DMA hardware, able to move packets with minimal CPU
intervention.

The goal of good packet handling software is to minimize copying and I
imagine the routing code in the Linux and BSD kernel endeavors to avoid
such copying by making effective use of the hardware available. For
example, the hardware may store the headers and data separately in memory,
so the software just has to mangle the headers without moving the data,
before submitting it to the output hardware queue.

Also note that hardware assistance affects two different metrics:
Throughput and latency. The average home router isn't going to be heavily
loaded enough to worry a lot about throughput. But it might care about
latency, particularly with gaming. So a good DMA-capable NIC would still be
a win.
 
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"Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in news:10bh32936j8v9f8
@corp.supernews.com:

> ScratchMonkey on the other hand knows how to make valid points and argue
> with civility.

Thanks, it wasn't always so. I think my most valuable classes at MIT were
writing and technical writing. The first class used Strunk and White's "The
Elements of Style", a nice little book on how to clean the clutter out of
one's verbiage. I also thank Harry Browne (the last election's Libertarian
Presidential candidate) for his insight on how to get provocative ideas
across to a potentially hostile audience.
 
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