Good Settup for $1350? (NEW BUILDER)

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Build - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VJrQmG
Just triple checking all of my parts with experienced people :). This will be my first time building a computer, this will be used for games, recording and maybe even streaming so it'll be used alot. Do I need anything extra like fans,static protection or anything? Sorry if this doesn't make too much sense, its been a long night of last minute researching items. Thanks!
 

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Just add an SSD. \
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($80.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($14.90)
Total: $1332.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ra_V_en

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Looks good, for now don't bother with the fans, you will find out you need more if you set it up and do some burn in tests.
Other then that you might consider using some SSD for OS drive, i personally had Caviar Blue for OS drive for quite a long time, it was fine but far from SSD performance in terms of OS booting and starting programs fluency. You have Samsung Evo 128GB for ~65$, it's sufficient for people who know how to plan their drive space usage wisely.

Edit: Btw that Kingston suggestion is really bad, that model is a suspect for some real issues:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand
 

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Could I go for awhile without one? Cause ATM I'm at the top of my budget, I tossed a 144hz monitor for the i7 CPU just so if I want to upgrade in the future it'll be a little less. I'm ordering from amazon and newegg so prices are a bit higher.
 

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It is fine without one for now, but it is HIGHLY recommended to get one at this budget.
 

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Asking you the same question because I am lazy, and concerned :). "
Could I go for awhile without one? Cause ATM I'm at the top of my budget, I tossed a 144hz monitor for the i7 CPU just so if I want to upgrade in the future it'll be a little less. I'm ordering from amazon and newegg so prices are a bit higher." Any cheap SSD's?
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-GAMING 7 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($47.94 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($14.90)
Total: $1314.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ra_V_en

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Corsair 200R is a bit different league than 300R, but it is an option.
As i can see you are getting original OS (not that i suggest any other options tho), but only from this point of view getting other OS drive later might lead to some unnecessary licensing issues. You will need to hassle a bit with re-validating it over a phone line.
So all in all 128 GB SSD is gonna really make a difference for every day usage and getting one later might end up with additional work to get everything working again. If you are sure you want your build as it is, better make a nice smiley for parents/wife or whoever might sponsor you few bucks more... it's Christmas time so that might not be that hard ;)
 

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(EDIT: had a mix of the old list in the the other one)
I took $1350 and did a little list of my own. I picked stuff mostly on what I think would be the best option to the system as a whole beyond gaming. Any questions fill free.

Decent tech, less options, minimum complete setup can be expanded ($100 under budget)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 700W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.31 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Samsung S24D300H 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1243.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is actually only about $250 more than your budget less the second graphics card. It has some niceer core goodies too than the above list (included higher tier MB)

Full blown dual card gaming rig
Main difference:

  • SSD + 2-RAID HDD to make use of the SSD
  • Dual graphics cards
  • More configurable cooling solution to either vent in(ambient air) or out (case air) depending on temps.
  • Good integrated tech on the MB
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H90 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($151.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 700W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.31 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Samsung S24D300H 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1847.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Agreed, was a little hesitant on them not familiar with their PSU's rep. I was going to say something more like antec tp-750 c gold but realistically an over sized but lesser quality PSU can be a better deal. I'm figuring on potential sustained power consumption of only 60%~80% of rated amount.

P.S. The M.2 disabling SLI on this board should only be true if using an NVMe PCIe3x4 device. The 850 should work unter SATAIII while in the "Ultra" slot if i'm not mistaken.
 

Ra_V_en

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So you've put 2 totally out of the sky setups.
1st still doesn't have SSD, which was practically the only drawback we noticed. Personally would rather have AMD card since i don't care about power draw that much... then again you put 700W PSU on a PC that requites 550W tops considering all the efficiency.
2nd is just a copy paste of the first with a "moar ram, moar drive, moar gpu... we need moar power Scotty!"
 

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Yeah pretty much. Only real underlying difference is a matter of brand selection and personal preference. I did put some actual thought into it.

The reason for the "copy paste" was as previously mentioned for a 2 RAID (as in two disk RAID0) that would allow the SSD to have something to flex it's muscles on for read/write. Plus I'm not an advocate of using an SSD on something that's going to be seeing this much of this type of usage beyond the OS. Save most of reading and writing for the less expensive HDD's. More ram (at the more ideal 2133MHz mind you) because depending on host programs and background activities while gaming and streaming might tax 8GB if say for example a large buffered pre recording is used. Plus with this case, you have a disk slot open on the lower cage for lets say a large single WD green drive for backups and what not with M.2 on the board instead. This will let you remove the upper for unimpeded airflow in the upper front fan (or rotate it for a super clean look and drastically improved airflow on upper front fan).

A second graphics card which is just an option at this point from what I understand, but doesn't hurt (and small part behind slightly larger PSU).

Current HDD's (like the FZEX) can easily support games, recording and streaming (with some sort of standard compression) on a single physical disk for non-professional situations. Realistic you would need a second mini-server or B**** computer that is basically just a bunch of HDD for various push/pull situations.

This is the third power supply to be suggested and only 50w more than the others and roughly the same price. It's not a linear supply (no for computers are that I know of) so there is no real need for head room but more usable power is more usable power. It's partially modular so at least you don't have to worry about connections coming loose on the ATX if you have to route it tightly.

The fractal case is stylish, goes with most setups, has excellent cable management, airflow and makes for a very clean install (it even has filters in it just like the other one).

Nvidia gernally outperforms most others at a consumer level in the same price range (GTX970 is great value for performance). The cards picked can be overclocked easily up to a more expensive cards specs without much of a heat issue. Plus these cards are short enough to fit in most cases without having to remove upper or lower HDD cages or other items (the upper cage and be turned 90 degrees for a clean look and not hinder air flow from top front fan as before mentioned for the suggested case).

The selected cooler has a lower fan speed (cyborg) which should help PWM noise in idle/light use situations plus the silver/chrome white would astically fit better in the suggested case. Or different type (liquid) that could allow the intake of outside air directly to the CPU cooling solution (no case heat to consider).

Asrock is a generally higher tier MB brand than gigabyte and tends to have well rounded integrated tech.

This from what I understand is mostly intended to be a gaming oriented rig so the cpu needs to be good but not $300 good.

The optical drive is honestly a random pick as most of them are about the same thing unless you looking for a particular capability or technology.

OS, somewhat unimportant as long as it's 64bit and supported by microsoft.
 

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When you start the sentence "Nvidia generally outperforms..." then i hardly have any motivation for further discussion... yes it generally outperforms in one way and "the competition" outperforms them in the other, so generally both cards are very good. I'm not gonna put any more words since those 2 specific cards where covered briefly everywhere: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2688178/gtx-970-390.html

So again back to square one, your first option is valid somehow just as the OP's one since it's similar price range but still lacks of the SSD which was the only missing part that all noticed here. Imo he will far more benefit from having it then you are trying to imply with the GTX 970 swap which is the main game changer in your setup, in fact in quite few situations he wont benefit or be penalized for that choice.
Op said this PC will suit not only for gaming but also for recording and/or streaming. Depending what kind of content will be thrown on the drive that might also point to the HDD as the weakest link, meaning any additional non OS drive serving as dedicated for such activity might be a good idea.
Oh I did miss the part where you swapped i7 for i5... in that case your option looks even worse every second now.

Since your answer covered mostly second build, now ill tell you why it looks ridiculous:
- 4 sticks of ram makes it non upgradeable in the future, it's not gonna run quad channel and probably isn't considerably cheaper either.
- M.2 SSD + RAID 0... so the first setup is just good without SSD for decent gaming but for ultra gaming you need a jaw dropping IO performance from M.2. SSD and double throughput from HDD on RAID 0. 500GB 850 EVO $147.99+ 2TB Hitachi $59.95 is still ~30$ cheaper then the whole drive system + M.2. surplus coming from mobo swap. I personally don't need that performance for my dev MSSQL databases, for gaming that is just absurd, considering you can have 380 GB more SSD space cheaper.
The rest is just ...whatever, the op is not gonna look over it since it's probably out of his budget, otherwise he wouldn't be asking the very first question anyways. And if he would be interested then I'd put a X99 setup for that price which would be more jaw dropping than this something.
Why did you put it in the first place? It's just a random config for a random person hardly related to the topic.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card ($289.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1018.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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60 Hz IPS: http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-21-5-Backlit-Monitor/dp/B00TJQX9D6
60 Hz VA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014371
144 Hz TN: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Really hard to find a good monitor right before Christmas, though there are a lot of monitors out there, just that not all are high quality.

For mouse I recommend Razer Deathadder 2013, and keyboard I recommend CM Storm Quickfire Cherry MX Red.

Never ever end up buying a garbage mouse, keyboard or monitor, those are important too.





All the best!
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.75 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($38.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($325.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($14.90)
Total: $1324.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ra_V_en, the only person that is ultimately going to decide where and how to spend money on this is ZackTheBlobFish. I used components I knew for a different perspective of the same thing. I'm not interested in starting a fight and deterring someone from seeking advice on this site. I apologize for being seen as inconvenient for trying to help someone.
 

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Yes you are right, it's up to OP what will be the final decision. I'm not interested in fights either, subject of my critics was the idea not your person so do not apologize or loose further motivation for a debate now or later. We are throwing ideas and shooting them out to find a perfect balance between performance, functionality and the money for the requirements.
Happy New Year to you, all other helpers and the OP!