Good upgrade for 1k?

[Rizing]

Hi all,

I want to give some background. I made a post last year that is no longer relevant.

I bought my pc in 2008 originally for 1000. These are the specs it came with and the upgrades I put in up to 2016.

i7 920
Windows Vista -> Windows 7 -> Windows 10
1TB had drive Hitachi? -> 2TB Seagate (performed worse) -> default
GTX 560 -> GTX 760 -> GTX 970 4GB
9GB DDR3 RAM -> Corsair 16 GB DDR3 RAM
ASUS RAMPAGE 2 mobo?

I figured it would better to just get a completely brand new pc since individual components cost for a new mobo/cpu/ram for mobo/hard drive would exceed the cost of this ironside computer I found. It's a fiend ADV.

My ultimate intention is to simply get a computer refresh
My 1st goal was to purchase a 2017 era computer for about the same cost as I paid in 2008.
My 2nd goal was to get my cpu on the same playing field as my gpu
My 3rd goal was to get consistently stable fps on modern games

http://ironsidecomputers.com/page.php?load=fiend

After I edit the config to get the price down a little, I end up with the following.

Case
Ironside Fiend Case Black [RGB] [Tempered Glass]
Noise Reduction
Noise Reduction Level 1 - Optimize Fans
Internal Lighting
[FREE] Ironside RGB LED Strip
Processor
Intel Core I5-7600K 3.8GHz (Quad Core)
CPU Cooling
Standard Heatsink
PC Liquid Coolant
*Requires Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling Systems
Motherboard
H110 Chipset Motherboard [Max 2 Sticks Of Memory]
Memory
8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133Mhz
Primary Hard Drive
1TB
Optical Drive
DVD Writer
Graphics Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING 3GB
Power Supply
EVGA 600 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
Operating System
Windows 10 64 Bit
Networking
Standard Onboard Ethernet (No Wi-Fi)

Even though i7 is more strongly associated with gaming, there is no option for i7 4xxx series, and the new i7 core is too much while i5 7600k seems to be just behind the i7, with nearly 100% extra performance over i7 920 and 1/2 the cost of i7.

There is no option for a 1070 unless I go 1200+ so I go with a 1060 which is barely adequate for gaming.

8GB DDR4 ram which is an improvement over DDR3 ram and supposedly, 16GB ram is completely unnecessary atm. However, 16GB ram allowed me to play a game like JC3 for several hours rather than 20 minutes before the lag got so bad I had to restart the pc.

I have no idea how much of a difference the mobo will make other than enabling support for the higher end cpu and ram.

New hard drive is obvious.

Thoughts?

 

[Paul NZ]

H110, Z170, and B150 mobos need a bios update to support a Kaby Lake.

And the only way you'll do that is with a Skylake. If you want a Kaby Lake, buy an H270, B250, or Z270 mobo

It'll be more compatible

 

[CRO5513Y]

Don't get the 3GB 1060. Move up to a 6GB 1060 for a few extra dollars it's well worth it. If the 6GB 1060 costs too much just swap it over for a 4GB RX 480 it should be around the price of the 3GB 1060 to begin with. Are you not able to build your own PC? It'll save you money and it's not very difficult, not to mention not getting ripped off with overpriced and generally unbalanced parts.

+1 with Paul NZ's suggestion above, swap to a Z270 if you have a K series CPU, you need it to overclock it. If you don't plan on Overclocking swap to a non-K i5 and put in a B250/H270 Motherboard.

 

[mdd1963]

a GTX1060 is roughly equal to a GTX970, I'd stand fast with the GTX970 if you have one, and just get the 7700K, Z270, and 16GB of RAM, and save few more months for a GTX1080...)

 

[Rizing]

I'm not if I'm doing this right because it's asking me to submit an answer to a question I asked but here I go nonetheless.

I have no issue switching to the B250 mobo. I'm trying to min-max but also get the right configuration.

@Cross55

What do you mean unbalanced parts? What I've mostly done is get the cheapest components I could find online, doing enough research to make sure it's compatible with what I have. I assume these pc building sites do the same? I am able to build my own pc to a certain extent. The main issues I have are with the following.

1. Find a case that will fit everything properly, especially when I'm never done upgrading parts
2. Complicated wiring with the mobo. I'm not comfortable with this part. I either would need an expert to do it for me or get one pre-assembled.
3. I don't have a convenient source to tell me, oh this part won't be compatible, this one is but it's ridiculous more expected then I planned for so now I have to find a completely different part and then reanalyse the price.

With these pre-built sites, I find that the options are limited for customization. This is intentionally done. Most of the time, it seems to be parts that will specifically be compatible with other parts on the same page. It eliminates a huge amount of the guesswork for me.

That's why I don't find more appeal in building it myself.

Also, there are horror stories with AMD gpus that I've been reading over the past 5 years and I've always used Nvidia so I don't really want to switch.

@mdd1963

It doesn't offer anything lower than a 1060 for me to select, nor a "no gpu" option that I could find. It's a sunken cost.

Will read and comment after work tomorrow.
Good night!

 

[Rizing]

H110, Z170, and B150 mobos need a bios update to support a Kaby Lake.

And the only way you'll do that is with a Skylake. If you want a Kaby Lake, buy an H270, B250, or Z270 mobo

It'll be more compatible

If I go with the regular i5-7600, is the default H110 fine?

 

[Paul NZ]

You'll still need a Skylake to update the bios first. Before you can use that CPU. It's still a Kaby Lake

Buy it if you like, but you'll have to spend more money to get the Skylake CPU as well