Status
Not open for further replies.

JOSHSKORN

Distinguished
Oct 26, 2009
2,385
19
19,795
1
[citation][nom]sabot00[/nom]But can it play Crysis?[/citation]
uber fail.

Anyway, I bet that they're waiting until Honeycomb reaches the mobile market, which according to wikipedia, will be this summer. That is, Q3 2011.
 
G

Guest

Guest
They're just trying to get Honeycomb worked back into Android instead of releasing a separate tablet specific OS which would cause more confusion.

Not a big deal despite what some would like us to believe.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Android isn't as free(libre) and open as Linux was meant to be, but OTOH, it's a helluva lot more free and open than Windows or OSX ever will be. So, credit where credit is due, Google is a much better company than MS or Apple.
 

scuba dave

Distinguished
Jun 1, 2009
342
0
18,780
0
[citation][nom]nacho_libre[/nom]Android isn't as free(libre) and open as Linux was meant to be, but OTOH, it's a helluva lot more free and open than Windows or OSX ever will be. So, credit where credit is due, Google is a much better company than MS or Apple.[/citation]

What world do you live in where the defining characteristic of a "much better company" is based on whether something is "free and open", or, at least in Google's case "free and pseudo-open"?

Such a ridiculous statement. The only thing they can possibly be given, in regards to "credit", is that they made a product that some people will like, and that they managed to whip up a media-frenzy, and that even more people will swallow the hogwash that is Google's claim that Android, and Honeycomb, are "Open Source".

That is all.
 

Vladislaus

Distinguished
Jul 29, 2010
1,290
0
19,280
0
[citation][nom]scuba dave[/nom]The only thing they can possibly be given, in regards to "credit", is that they made a product that some people will like, and that they managed to whip up a media-frenzy, and that even more people will swallow the hogwash that is Google's claim that Android, and Honeycomb, are "Open Source". That is all.[/citation]
So Android is not open source?
 
G

Guest

Guest
scuba_dave: the importance of companies like Google that support open source is:

1. GPL/LGPL/Apache/Public Domain licenses: If some evil dick-headed company like Oracle buys google, the community has a right to fork the current source code and create their own version, free of the stupidity being imposed by the owner du jour. This happened to Open Office after Oracle bought Sun, now we have a fork called LibreOffice.

2. The ability to compile your own sources: Google gets a bad rap for privacy, and admittedly, they do collect an awful lot of your personal information, but they always give you the ability to opt-out or not use their service. MS collects as much or more information, and their "proprietary-or-GTFO" business model only serves to cultivate such shady backdoor dealings as NSAKEY, which you cannot opt out of. Atleast if I distrust the Android binaries, I can review them and compile my own.


Hopefully, Ubuntu for ARM will eventually contain the necessary telephony stack to be a smartphone OS that's more in the spirit of FOSS that Android. In the mean time, Android is a far better choice than iOS or WP7, for those who aren't complete tech-illiterate lemmings.
 

boltimuss

Distinguished
Nov 27, 2010
7
0
18,510
0
"...The only thing they can possibly be given, in regards to "credit", is that they made a product that some people will like, and that they managed to whip up a media-frenzy ..."

Isn't that what Apple has done?
 

cookoy

Distinguished
Aug 3, 2009
1,324
0
19,280
0
just wondering, do HTC, Motorola, Samsung etc who use the Google source codes, also make their modified source codes available to the public?
 

seboj

Distinguished
Mar 31, 2008
403
0
18,790
1
@cyanogen "I think Google is doing the right thing by not releasing 3.0 source, because it's probably a pile of nasty hacks."

Cyanogen (of CyanogenMod fame) sums it up pretty well.
 

sudeshc

Distinguished
Apr 30, 2009
261
0
18,780
0
GOOGLE is holding it up just to earn................
or may be its developers are so dumb that they dont know what they developed.
 

skittle

Splendid
[citation][nom]cookoy[/nom]just wondering, do HTC, Motorola, Samsung etc who use the Google source codes, also make their modified source codes available to the public?[/citation]

Yes. Samsung just dropped froyo for the galaxy line. (march 24th)

[citation][nom]herpity[/nom]^ No idea why you would want them...[/citation]
Need the manufacturer source if you want third party rom...
 

K33

Distinguished
Sep 6, 2008
33
0
18,530
0
Google may not have 'released it' , but it is 'open source'... It is already in the wild if you want a copy. I had a quick look in XDA-Developers. Here is a quote from almost two months ago, "some sites speculate since its based on the NVIDIA Tegra 2 dual core CPU that it will be the minimum." This might well be why Google are holding it. They may be waiting for the imminent release of two core phones.
 

hannibal

Distinguished
The most propably reason are "nasty" UI hacks that some phone companies have done, and so prevented users to update to new and better version os android to their phone... Baybe they try to release an version where you can upgrade the motor (os) and leave the User interface intact, so all Android users can upgrade their phones, without wainting if some lazy phone maker will ever upgrade their version of Android (to older phone models... Any happy Samsung users in this forum that still wait their os update...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

ASK THE COMMUNITY