Got a problem with my PC please help

[George_141]

So today my PC started acting weird. I noticed that the EZ DEBUG leds lights on everytime i boot up the PC one by one, but the GPU one is staying on a little longer than the others. There's only 3 DRAM , CPU , VGA.

Anyway, the problem started that i tried to enter in a game and the PC just froze with a TZZZZZZZZ sound and couldn't do anything until i restarted or turn off the PC. I could turn it back on, again the red led. The thing is, the PC is working.. i mean i can still play a game, i can still watch movies. I notice that after that TZZZZ is slower. Everything is loading up slower. I don't have the "Speaker" little wire to hear the beeps.

I tried to remove the BIOS battery for 5 minutes and put it back on, and the same with the RAM stick.

My PC is a CPU i5 6500, 8GB RAM 2133, 1070 gtx.
PSU is BRONZE 80 Seasonic i think.

The PC is not old, is like 2 years old. So i don't know what can go bad, the PSU? The Motherboard? (i don't know the motherboard name i think is some Asus).

 

[glytch5]

okay so... what motherboard is it? Is it an MSI board with the VGA led?
When the debug for VGA comes on... is your monitor showing black screen? A lot of computers do that... its just waiting for a response from your display, I doubt its a video card problem.
The red screen an horrifying sound means you are most likely getting a driver crash. If you check event viewer does it say "something or other has crashed due to a bugcheck" ?
If it does, I had that too. What game is it? I have had many games crash that way at random... then windows updated and the crashes magically dissappeared. Are you on win 10?

 

[George_141]

okay so... what motherboard is it? Is it an MSI board with the VGA led?
When the debug for VGA comes on... is your monitor showing black screen? A lot of computers do that... its just waiting for a response from your display, I doubt its a video card problem.
The red screen an horrifying sound means you are most likely getting a driver crash. If you check event viewer does it say "something or other has crashed due to a bugcheck" ?
If it does, I had that too. What game is it? I have had many games crash that way at random... then windows updated and the crashes magically dissappeared. Are you on win 10?

Usually i play Overwatch and in Overwatch did this. I'm on windows 10. What i noticed is that my CPU temperature is at 90 degree when gaming and my other PC with i5 3330 is at 50-60 degree top. I'm going with a reply to tell you what motherboard do i have

 

[George_141]

okay so... what motherboard is it? Is it an MSI board with the VGA led?
When the debug for VGA comes on... is your monitor showing black screen? A lot of computers do that... its just waiting for a response from your display, I doubt its a video card problem.
The red screen an horrifying sound means you are most likely getting a driver crash. If you check event viewer does it say "something or other has crashed due to a bugcheck" ?
If it does, I had that too. What game is it? I have had many games crash that way at random... then windows updated and the crashes magically dissappeared. Are you on win 10?

Ok so yes i have a MSI, and the crash log i have a critical that say "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

Also some errors "The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device ROOT\WPD\0000."

 

[glytch5]

The shut down error will always happen after you crash. There is your driver error there but if your card is hitting 90 degrees Celsius... that is pretty dang hot. I guess your card could be turning off to protect its self. Why is it running so hot? Are your video card fans working?
What are you using to detect your temps?
The delayed VGA light thingy is normal, don't worry about that.

 

[George_141]

The shut down error will always happen after you crash. There is your driver error there but if your card is hitting 90 degrees Celsius... that is pretty dang hot. I guess your card could be turning off to protect its self. Why is it running so hot? Are your video card fans working?
What are you using to detect your temps?
The delayed VGA light thingy is normal, don't worry about that.

The GPU is fine from what i saw on the internet. The CPU is really hot at 90 degree. Openhardware monitor for temps

 

[glytch5]

oh i'm sorry I miss read that. So your CPU is hitting 90... it is most likely going to thermal throttle... you definitely want to fix that issue.
What type of cooler are you using? A stock cooler? You may need to change the thermal compound or figure out what is going on there... are you an over clocker? your system might be shutting off to protect the CPU

 

[George_141]

oh i'm sorry I miss read that. So your CPU is hitting 90... it is most likely going to thermal throttle... you definitely want to fix that issue.
What type of cooler are you using? A stock cooler? You may need to change the thermal compound or figure out what is going on there... are you an over clocker? your system might be shutting off to protect the CPU

I'm using the default cooler that come with the BOX. 2 years never had this problem. I changed the thermal paste like 3 months ago ? And i just checked now and is still there, i wanted to change it but didn't had to.

Now i replugged everything and my CPU is on 60-70, i still think is high, but don't know what to do for now. My CASE fan doesn't want to work.

My case fan have a 3pin and a 4pin molex, I connect the 4pin but the fan doesn't want to start don't know what's the cause.The fan is connected directly to the PSU with the molex.

Also i tried to connect the 3pin to the motherboard and still doesn't work. And if i connect the molex to the PSU and (my molex have another small 4pin tied to the molex) if i connect that tied 4pin to the motherboard while also the molex is connected the PC won't even start

 

[glytch5]

So you have one of those case fans that has a 4 pin molex thing, and also a smaller 3 pin connector right?
You only want one of those connected at the same time. connecting both should have zero effect on starting your computer though.

I would check in your bios and see what the voltage is on your CPU... and compare to how much voltage is safe for it... perhaps somehow the voltage got turned up?
You should not be idling at 60C while not doing much... that is pretty bad. Is it really hot inside your case? If you put your hand in there with stuff on.. does it feel just all together hot in there?

When your gaming... does your CPU fan go "VROOOOM VROOOOOOOM" or do you barely hear it? Perhaps the fan is failing. Windows should put up a warning for CPU fan failure though not just crash.

 

[George_141]

So you have one of those case fans that has a 4 pin molex thing, and also a smaller 3 pin connector right?
You only want one of those connected at the same time. connecting both should have zero effect on starting your computer though.

I would check in your bios and see what the voltage is on your CPU... and compare to how much voltage is safe for it... perhaps somehow the voltage got turned up?
You should not be idling at 60C while not doing much... that is pretty bad. Is it really hot inside your case? If you put your hand in there with stuff on.. does it feel just all together hot in there?

When your gaming... does your CPU fan go "VROOOOM VROOOOOOOM" or do you barely hear it? Perhaps the fan is failing. Windows should put up a warning for CPU fan failure though not just crash.

So yes, i have that 4pin molex and a smaller 3pin. I connected both, the pc won't start. I tried one by one but the FAN doesn't start either. I can't even find the fan in the bios.

Also the CPU in idle is 30-40, but when gaming is 60-70 now. Is down from 90 witch is better though.

I guess i'l go buy a better CPU cooler, but where can i find a good CPU for my case fan that work ? Is 120 MM my fan pc, but have no idea if it will even work if this one won't work.

I can't even hear the CPU fan, is a really small sound there. Tge VROOOM was only when the crash started.

 

[glytch5]

You won't be able to detect that fan if its connected through molex, you might be able to detect the voltage in your bios if you connect the 3 pin side to your motherboard header.
60 to 70 while gaming on a stock cooler is normal, I thought you meant 90 while gaming, and 60 to 70 while idle. YOu should not be hitting 90 though man.
You might just have a bad case fan. Any 120 fan will work. If you have a modern MSI motherboard, you can get a 4 pin PWM or just a 3 pin fan and plug it in directly... not familiar their intel boards though. I'll leave that up to you, determining which headers you have on it.

you can just leave the cpu cooler... the cooler its self will not get old and die, but the fan connected to the cooler will.. you could buy a dif fan if you wanted... but if your gaming and hit 60 to 70 with a stock cooler... thats normal. You must have really bad case air flow? Is that why you were hitting 90? I'm not really sure what is going on at this point.

 

[George_141]

You won't be able to detect that fan if its connected through molex, you might be able to detect the voltage in your bios if you connect the 3 pin side to your motherboard header.
60 to 70 while gaming on a stock cooler is normal, I thought you meant 90 while gaming, and 60 to 70 while idle. YOu should not be hitting 90 though man.
You might just have a bad case fan. Any 120 fan will work. If you have a modern MSI motherboard, you can get a 4 pin PWM or just a 3 pin fan and plug it in directly... not familiar their intel boards though. I'll leave that up to you, determining which headers you have on it.

you can just leave the cpu cooler... the cooler its self will not get old and die, but the fan connected to the cooler will.. you could buy a dif fan if you wanted... but if your gaming and hit 60 to 70 with a stock cooler... thats normal. You must have really bad case air flow? Is that why you were hitting 90? I'm not really sure what is going on at this point.

Thank you for your help. No, i mean i never hit the 90 degree until today when the second error appear. Everything was normal, the air flow was ok. The wire management is decent and as i said i never hit those heats. I don't know maybe the error or something caused my CPU to overload or something... I think the best thing i can do now is to take my PC and go somewhere to check everything. Thank you for your time and help. I really appreciate.

 

[glytch5]

ah man don't take it anywhere! They are ganna charge you an arm and a leg for next to nothing. If its working just keep using it. You could use Afterburner or another in game monitoring software and keep and eye on CPU thermals for now.
I would advice against taking it in anywhere.


you are very welcome though.