Question GPU Coil Whine is disconcerting

[sycoreaper]

Just general discussion.

Does anyone else feel anxious and that it's disconcerting heating your GPU whine?

I know it's not inherently bad but it's unnerving. Im sitting for the first time without my headphones and my GPU is playing me a Cyberpunk melody.

Its semi-sentient and I don't like it.

 

[Dj0gany]

I owned a Sapphire Vega 56 and currently own a ROG Vega 64...
Its a live opera experience when im running something demanding...
When kept stock, both of them were like mosquitoes at night circling around your face, i just couldnt handle the noise. Even though its perfectly safe, it was still annoying.
I then undervolted both of them, started limiting my FPS in games and the noise got quitter and it appeared not as often, and the performance was the same.
Try undervolting your card and start limiting the FPS in your games.

 

[sycoreaper]

I owned a Sapphire Vega 56 and currently own a ROG Vega 64...
Its a live opera experience when im running something demanding...
When kept stock, both of them were like mosquitoes at night circling around your face, i just couldnt handle the noise. Even though its perfectly safe, it was still annoying.
I then undervolted both of them, started limiting my FPS in games and the noise got quitter and it appeared not as often, and the performance was the same.
Try undervolting your card and start limiting the FPS in your games.

It's any load (except basic use). It will immediately stop the second I close anything slightly demanding. It doesn't get any worse though under higher load vs medium load.

I was thinking of power limiting (instead of UV) based on *shivering in cringe*. I know that won't help coil whine but hey, maybe my power bill can go down a bit.

 

[Dj0gany]

I know that won't help coil whine but hey

It might, as less power is delivered to the GPU, hence reducing the coil whine.

It will immediately stop the second I close anything slightly demanding

Yep, as you close lets say a benchmark coil whine instantly stops as the power delivery isnt as big as it was during the benchmark.
My Sapphire Vega 56 was screamingggggg in Unigine Superposition, as soon as i am done with it, the noise dissapears.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Just general discussion.

Does anyone else feel anxious and that it's disconcerting heating your GPU whine?

I know it's not inherently bad but it's unnerving. Im sitting for the first time without my headphones and my GPU is playing me a Cyberpunk melody.

Its semi-sentient and I don't like it.

What GPU is it? I don't know what the procedure is for a GeForce card but for a Radeon, go into the Gaming portion of the Adrenalin software and set Radeon Chill to stop your card from rendering frames faster than your monitor can display them. Coil whine is usually caused by a card rendering like 300+FPS during cutscenes. If you set your frame limit to match your monitor's output, you won't see any loss of performance, it will minimise stuttering (because it will allow your card to take its time) and it will eliminate screen-tearing because your card won't be trying to force frames on your monitor before your monitor is finished the frame that it's already working on.

Best of all, it will stop your card from hitting frame rates that can trigger coil whine.

 

[sycoreaper]

What GPU is it? I don't know what the procedure is for a GeForce card but for a Radeon, go into the Gaming portion of the Adrenalin software and set Radeon Chill to stop your card from rendering frames faster than your monitor can display them. Coil whine is usually caused by a card rendering like 300+FPS during cutscenes. If you set your frame limit to match your monitor's output, you won't see any loss of performance, it will minimise stuttering (because it will allow your card to take its time) and it will eliminate screen-tearing because your card won't be trying to force frames on your monitor before your monitor is finished the frame that it's already working on.

Best of all, it will stop your card from hitting frame rates that can trigger coil whine.

A valid assumption but I boaderline obsess over FPS. The majority of games I've played are at 4K and as maxed out as I can go while maintaining at least 4k 100 or 120 fps stable, monitor goes to 144, I have yet to play a game (again only been playing modern ones) that can do 4K at max settings and stay within FPS budget.
Its my first ever top of the line GPU and first real gaming PC that wasn't old handme downs. I appreciated them of course but having something now to this caliber, why not enjoy it to the most.

Anyway, So in short, the GPU is being pushed but not beyond the receivable frames. I'm going to powerlimit it and see what happens. My prediction is nothing because even light loads have caused whine.

Just wasn't sure if anyone else with whine felt like it's your GPU crying for help lol.

 

[Phaaze88]

Have you seen this one?

How to quickly & easily fix coil-whine(coil choke noise)

A forum user recently asked about Coil Whine, which is the noise a choke coil sometimes makes as it operates. This is almost always a video card problem, but can happen on any other computer or electronics components employing a choke in it's circuitry, including motherboards & power supplies...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[sycoreaper]

Have you seen this one?

How to quickly & easily fix coil-whine(coil choke noise)

A forum user recently asked about Coil Whine, which is the noise a choke coil sometimes makes as it operates. This is almost always a video card problem, but can happen on any other computer or electronics components employing a choke in it's circuitry, including motherboards & power supplies...

www.techpowerup.com

Jesus no. I don't think no mater how many testimonies that I'd ever put superglue on my 4090. Maybe if it was some poopoo card but not this.

I read that whine is usually oscillation (hence the superglue I'm guessing) over time they settle and it stops on its own.

But superglue? Man, one bad batch of that stuff could in theory either eat the board or catch fire**


Quick Google result: **(Generally, methyl cyanoacrylates resist 195°F (90°C). Specialty allyl cyanoacrylates can resist up to 482°F (250°C)) .

 

[Avro Arrow]

A valid assumption but I boaderline obsess over FPS. The majority of games I've played are at 4K and as maxed out as I can go while maintaining at least 4k 100 or 120 fps stable, monitor goes to 144, I have yet to play a game (again only been playing modern ones) that can do 4K at max settings and stay within FPS budget.
Its my first ever top of the line GPU and first real gaming PC that wasn't old handme downs. I appreciated them of course but having something now to this caliber, why not enjoy it to the most.

Anyway, So in short, the GPU is being pushed but not beyond the receivable frames. I'm going to powerlimit it and see what happens. My prediction is nothing because even light loads have caused whine.

Just wasn't sure if anyone else with whine felt like it's your GPU crying for help lol.

That's pretty odd. Does it just whine all the time or does it only happen in specific parts of a game? I've only ever come across coil whine curing cut scenes in games (because the FPS rockets up to stupidly-high levels), never during actual gameplay.

Capping your FPS to a max of 144FPS still wouldn't hurt because it would prevent coil whine during cut scenes and it's not like you're going to lose anything. In the situations that you describe where it's not maxxing out your monitor anyway, it will have no effect whatsoever.

If it just happens all the time, I would RMA the card. I'd be damned if I were going to deal with coil whine after paying upwards of $1700USD for a video card (and I thought my XTX was expensive). As far as I'm concerned, MSi owes you a new card.

 

[sycoreaper]

That's pretty odd. Does it just whine all the time or does it only happen in specific parts of a game? I've only ever come across coil whine curing cut scenes in games (because the FPS rockets up to stupidly-high levels), never during actual gameplay.

Capping your FPS to a max of 144FPS still wouldn't hurt because it would prevent coil whine during cut scenes and it's not like you're going to lose anything. In the situations that you describe where it's not maxxing out your monitor anyway, it will have no effect whatsoever.

If it just happens all the time, I would RMA the card. I'd be damned if I were going to deal with coil whine after paying upwards of $1700USD for a video card (and I thought my XTX was expensive). As far as I'm concerned, MSi owes you a new card.

As soon as any load is put on it. Desktop is fine (and I don't have an iGPU) along with other basic tasks. Anything even loading the menu of games causes it to hum/buzzbeep.

GPU is and always has been properly supported and level (yes I used a level lol, didn't want any sag).

PSU is decent enough, by no means great but (CTW) MSI MPGA1000GPCIE5, using native 12VHPWR.

This system is goofy and it might just be what it is. It has stupid issues like not being able to get into the bios unless I power up with no RAM, shutdown, put one stick in and go to bios. So it's 100% stable just a quirky build.
It really doesn't bother me so long as what I read of CW not being damaging is true.

 

[Avro Arrow]

As soon as any load is put on it. Desktop is fine (and I don't have an iGPU) along with other basic tasks. Anything even loading the menu of games causes it to hum/buzzbeep.

GPU is and always has been properly supported and level (yes I used a level lol, didn't want any sag).

PSU is decent enough, by no means great but (CTW) MSI MPGA1000GPCIE5, using native 12VHPWR.

This system is goofy and it might just be what it is. It has stupid issues like not being able to get into the bios unless I power up with no RAM, shutdown, put one stick in and go to bios. So it's 100% stable just a quirky build.
It really doesn't bother me so long as what I read of CW not being damaging is true.

Yeah, it's true that it's not damaging but... if you ever want to sell that card down the line, that coil whine will cause its value to sink like cement shoes in the ocean.

I would RMA the card, if only for that reason. You've more than paid enough to expect a perfect product.

 

[sycoreaper]

Yeah, it's true that it's not damaging but... if you ever want to sell that card down the line, that coil whine will cause its value to sink like cement shoes in the ocean.

I would RMA the card, if only for that reason. You've more than paid enough to expect a perfect product.

I have no warranty... Pandemic had me bored and desperate for a gaming PC so I bought one from a scalper but only paid about $75 over sticker because unknown to me that's around when the connector gate started so I think he panicked and agreed to my lowball offer.

Also I'm not a serial upgrade. I keep things until they are no good so chances of selling it are next to none but I get what you're getting at.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I have no warranty... Pandemic had me bored and desperate for a gaming PC so I bought one from a scalper but only paid about $75 over sticker because unknown to me that's around when the connector gate started so I think he panicked and agreed to my lowball offer.

Also I'm not a serial upgrade. I keep things until they are no good so chances of selling it are next to none but I get what you're getting at.

Wow, well, ok then! You made out like a bandit! It's good that you're not going to upgrade soon because I have a feeling that AI chip production will cause a bigger GPU shortage than any mining craze ever did. It also won't end anytime soon (if ever) because there's no "switching to proof of stake" escape hatch like there was with Etherium mining. The GPU shortage caused by AI may never truly end unless they build more fabs to increase production capacity (which is a big "IF").

That's why I bought my 7900 XTX, I wanted a 24GB card to "ride out the storm" so to speak (and it was more than $200-off as an open-box model at Newegg).

It sounds like you'll be just fine.

 

[sycoreaper]

Wow, well, ok then! You made out like a bandit! It's good that you're not going to upgrade soon because I have a feeling that AI chip production will cause a bigger GPU shortage than any mining craze ever did. It also won't end anytime soon (if ever) because there's no "switching to proof of stake" escape hatch like there was with Etherium mining. The GPU shortage caused by AI may never truly end unless they build more fabs to increase production capacity (which is a big "IF").

That's why I bought my 7900 XTX, I wanted a 24GB card to "ride out the storm" so to speak (and it was more than $200-off as an open-box model at Newegg).

It sounds like you'll be just fine.

I did, I got very lucky, with all my components actually.

That and who knows what these goofy ash developers will do now that native is "obsolete" in their minds. At least I know DLSS 3 and 3.5 along with FSR3 have me covered.

Sidenote/OnTopic,
I powerlimited to 80%, let Afterburner tune it (it did something goofy that even it didn't like after the fact). No whine but I didn't play for an extended period, bit too tired.

FPS is more or less the same and no microstutters except where they were before, maybe a tiny bit worse but tolerable, bad game optimization. Not holding my breath but we'll see if my GPU(uneasiness) goes away.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well, I always say that the best way to counteract unpleasant sounds is to simply do this in game:

 

[sycoreaper]

Well, I always say that the best way to counteract unpleasant sounds is to simply do this in game:

I just woke up and this is the first thing I've seen. I don't know what the heck I just saw and how it will affect the rest of my day now that this is hardwired

 

[Avro Arrow]

I just woke up and this is the first thing I've seen. I don't know what the heck I just saw and how it will affect the rest of my day now that this is hardwired

Yep, Pump Up The Volume is one of the catchiest tunes in Electronica history. Having it stuck in one's head all day makes for a really good day because it's just so damn awesome!