Gpu driver failure and occasional system powercrash?

[Jonatron5]

When playing some more graphically intesive games i expeirence occasional video driver crashes and entire system crashes. No bluescreen just power off. Primarily this has been happining with the totalwar franchise. Rome 2 and atilla.

Ive got latest drivers for everything. Right now my two suspcions are either external gpu power isnt properly configured. Or nvida has a bad driver set on the market for this card.

Specs are
amd fx6350 4.7ghz oc
gtx 780ti classified dual bios (mode b)
8 gigs ram
1000watt power supply. (Plenty of juice, my cabling might be screwy)

Sometimes it will just freeze the screen and i can alt tab and it will start working again with a bit of jiggiling (metaphorical jigiling)

Sometimes its a complete system powerdown.

The times alt tabbing does work i get a display driver has stopped working message. Once again i am running on newest drivers. For those intrested i woll post my dxdiag

update. the forum doesn't allow posting of files I will be happy to email my dxdiag.txt file to any interested party

 

[bishopi5]

Just because you have 1000w PSU dosen't mean its not the culprit, please post its exact specs at atleast a name for us to lookup, but first of all i'd getting rid of that huge overclock on you're CPU as that's most probably the reason, Many games can push overclocks further then benchmarks. Also go back to mode A on video card, check cabling, fresh install of drivers using DDU in safe mode, Load bios defaults. Let me know

And my liquid cooler would barely be able to deal with the temps of amd fx6350 @ 4.7ghz lol

 

[Jonatron5]

ive got a noctua radiator and ive had it up to 5.0 ghz stably but it was shaky and pulling waaaaaaay more electricity then what im comfortable with. plus It was being a literal space heater.

NOw the weird weird thing is this is more often then not 70% at least of the time this only happens during multiplayer modes. I have a poor internet connection but that still shouldn't cause power crashes. Im going to chalk that up to poor sample size though.

I would normally entertain the notion of the cpubeing responsible but ive only had this issue when I had the new gpu. Ive had this issue before I overclocked so im idssmissing that possibility. With the only exception of I had a couple power crashes running like planetside 2. here ill post details.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438019

(psu specs)

Ive done at least 3 driver installs and it was stable for a while so I stopped worring about it. But as soon as I rebooted same issue. I suck with cabiling and connecting external power to gpus because of the way the pins are set up and the fact theres two slots on them I never really learned how so I sorta jury rigged it.

I will try swapping gpu bios over to A
DO you know any way of determining if my cables are plugged into it properly?

 

[hang-the-9]

This issue is pretty much 100% a hardware issue, either bad video card, bad power supply or overheating.

If you are overclocking while this is happening, bad idea, you will just damage the components more if they are even salvagable now.

To find out if your cable are in properly, open the case and look, there is no program that can check them for you. Follow the manuals and compare things.

This note you put in about "external power" and whatever you did with the pins draw a big red flag, sounds like you are not quite ready to work with your setup. Find a friend that knows about computers and have him check over what you put together and test things.

 

[Jonatron5]

Trust me I do know about my system man. I wont lie I was a little offended by what hang the 9 posted. By no means do I claim to be an expert but I do not have any hardware damage and im capable of handling my system.

http://imgur.com/wSfSHzb ( does this need to have anything plugged to it?)

http://imgur.com/2ODfyze ( swapped to bios a)

http://imgur.com/K3BRRSq (external power plugged and good to go)

http://imgur.com/9XluZ9b (port one unplugged )

http://imgur.com/xQxs2Fx (port one plug)

http://imgur.com/CVpMRM7 (port 2 unplugged)

both plugs go in smoothly without being forced.

for the sake of being thourough I will test without the overclock though im certain that's not the issue. I have just checked wiring and swapped bois mode gonna give it a try as it is and comeback with results. Should that not work current plan is to kill the overclock. should that not work ill do a fresh driver install.

 

[hang-the-9]

Trust me I do know about my system man. I wont lie I was a little offended by what hang the 9 posted. By no means do I claim to be an expert but I do not have any hardware damage and im capable of handling my system.

http://imgur.com/wSfSHzb ( does this need to have anything plugged to it?)

http://imgur.com/2ODfyze ( swapped to bios a)

http://imgur.com/K3BRRSq (external power plugged and good to go)

http://imgur.com/9XluZ9b (port one unplugged )

http://imgur.com/xQxs2Fx (port one plug)

http://imgur.com/CVpMRM7 (port 2 unplugged)

both plugs go in smoothly without being forced.

for the sake of being thourough I will test without the overclock though im certain that's not the issue. I have just checked wiring and swapped bois mode gonna give it a try as it is and comeback with results. Should that not work current plan is to kill the overclock. should that not work ill do a fresh driver install.

The reason I said you need to have someone look at your system is this "I suck with cabiling and connecting external power to gpus because of the way the pins are set up and the fact theres two slots on them I never really learned how so I sorta jury rigged it."

If you are not sure how to plug in the power plugs in the video card that could very well be the issue if you have the wrong cables connected or don't have something plugged in.

The first thing you should do is stop overclocking, reset things to defaults before testing anything else. You are starting from a bad base if you have issues but you have modified something. If the system has issues at stock speeds then you know it's some component instead of just the CPU or video card being over stressed.

 

[bishopi5]

Agree'd start with everything on defaults, and change the cards PCIe slot, Change RAM slot, (if all arent full) and monitor temps while gaming

 

[woodsro]

So when playing a graphic intensive game, the PC just acts like someone yanked the power plug out of it?

If so, their are two possible causes:

1. Faulty Power Supply

2. You have a short somewhere in the case.

Check your case and components and see if you cna find any shorts, or places where perhaps a standoff is loose, or metal is touching someplace on the motherboard. I have seen the motherboard backplate panels not correctly put in cause shorts and random shutoffs in computers.

The good news is most shorts are easy to find because they are easy to reproduce and this makes troubleshooting them a bit easier. If you can't see any visible places in your case where they may be short, then its either the Power Supply, or the GPU.

Also, don't rule out the power supply cable you plug into the wall, they go bad too believe it or not, and can cause intermittent power issues, I just replaced a power supply cable on a PC at work a few weeks ago, it was suffering from random shutoffs, bad cable, system runs fine now...if you have a spare power supply plug hanging around, try swapping it out and see if if solves the issue.

These are just some things you can try that have minimal or no cost, if none of these solve your issues, then you may have to look into more expensive solutions like buying new parts. Let us know if you track down the problem. Best of luck to you!

PS: I also see you have your FX 6350 Overclocked, remove the Overclock and try playing your games and see if you crash/random shutoff.

Overclocking is a funny thing, what is stable today may not be stable tomorrow. Voltage is a silent killer, and even if you keep the chip below 60C voltage can still cause electromigration and degrade the chip where its no longer stable.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/automatic-overclock-motherboard-cpu,3048.html

Our overclocking articles often mention a process called electromigration” where material is physically transferred from one part of a circuit to another. While the full description of this phenomenon is complex, it’s easy to understand that an insulator contaminated with conductive particles no longer insulates. Transistor gates function as either insulators or conductors depending on charge state and are particularly prone to this type of damage. And yet, many technology enthusiasts place the blame for a fried processor or GPU solely on heat, ignoring the fact that voltage is a measure of force.

Force causes electromigration, and colder silicon more easily resists that force by being less pliable. Colder temperatures also increase the insulation capabilities of transistor gates in the “off” phase, reducing the number of electrons that are forced through the closed gate. The problem with blaming heat alone on a failure is that moderate increases in electromigration resistance usually require drastic temperature reductions. When it comes to protecting hundreds of dollars in equipment, we always make our recommendations to you erring on the side of caution.

We've learned through trial, error, and dead processors that voltage levels beyond 1.45 V at above-ambient temperatures can kill an Intel CPU etched at 32 nm (Sandy Bridge-based parts included) very quickly. Those same processors die a fairly slow death at voltage levels between 1.40 V and 1.45 V (somewhere between weeks and months on our test benches). And we're expecting more than a year of reliable service from the parts we've dutifully kept below 1.40 V. Not all motherboards are perfect however. Voltage instability on a particularly cheap motherboard fried one of our processors when it was set to only1.38 V. Subsequently, you've seen us use 1.35 V for the overclocking tests in older motherboard round-ups, embracing 1.38 V to 1.40 V in more recent pieces covering higher-end platforms.

What i am getting at is, your chip may be degraded and can no longer hold that OC you have now as stable. The rate and speed at which a chip degrades varies on the wafer, voltage, how good your MB is at regulating that voltage, ambient temps, etc. this is the pros and cons of OC, Remove the OC and see if it stops, if it does, then it means your OC either was never stable, or it is no longer stable due to degradation of your cpu.

 

[Jonatron5]

THIS HAS BEEN FIXED THE ISSUE WAS BEING IN bios mode b instead of A.

Still get random driver failures though but i think thats my os conflicting with it becuase it doesnt happen in anyother game