GPU for future 1080p 60hz gaming

[leproc]

Hi so I'm buying a GPU for my first build, I have a 1080p 60hz monitor and I'm not planing to get a higher one in the future, I can afford a gtx1070 but I don't want to spend more money in something that I'm not going to exploit at 100%

You guys think a gtx 1060 6gb It's OK for 1080p 60hz gaming for the next 3 years or should I go for the 1070?

 

[Barty1884]

Depends on your specifics titles played & the in-game settings you're trying to achieve.

A 6GB 1060 is a current "high" settings, 60FPS card generally speaking. In 2-3 years, that's probably going to be more like low-medium for new releases.
If that's fine with you, a 1060 should see you through a couple of years comfortably.

A 1070 *should* keep you more in the High-Ultra range >60FPS longer but again, depends on the title(s).

 

[feelinfroggy777]

It will depend on the settings. The 1060/580 is the perfect 1080p/60fps cards for high settings for today's AAA games. But the 1060 has been out for more than 2 years now and you cant expect it to sustain that type of performance for another 3 years.

That would put the card 5 years old at that point. Look at the similar card that was released 5 years ago, the gtx 760. Today, that card is incapable of running today's AAA games in the same manner that it was able to run AAA games in 2013.

The 1070 will be too much for your right now, but it will have more longevity. I would also suggest that maybe you don't lock yourself into your 1080p/60hz monitor for the next three years. In a year or two you may be able to get a budget 1080p/144hz for the cost of a couple of games.

 

[jacobweaver800]

Depends on your specifics titles played & the in-game settings you're trying to achieve.

A 6GB 1060 is a current "high" settings, 60FPS card generally speaking. In 2-3 years, that's probably going to be more like low-medium for new releases.
If that's fine with you, a 1060 should see you through a couple of years comfortably.

A 1070 *should* keep you more in the High-Ultra range >60FPS longer but again, depends on the title(s).

I agree, the 1060 gb is the current "king" of 1080p 60fps gaming, but in these next few years games me be wayy harder to run making it necessary for something like a 1070. We just don't know. I am an enthusiast so I would go for the 1070, not to mention is should suit you well if you do decide to upgrade the monitor, it can handle 1440p and 4k gaming and high refresh rate 1080p gaming too.

What are the rest of the system specs? A mess up here could leave you not using the 1070 to the max performance anyways.

 

[WildCard999]

I'd get the 1070, while it's probably a little more then needed at 1080P you can utilize Nvidia DSR to make games look a bit smoother over some AA settings. Pricing may lower soon when the newer cards come out.

 

[leproc]

Depends on your specifics titles played & the in-game settings you're trying to achieve.

A 6GB 1060 is a current "high" settings, 60FPS card generally speaking. In 2-3 years, that's probably going to be more like low-medium for new releases.
If that's fine with you, a 1060 should see you through a couple of years comfortably.

A 1070 *should* keep you more in the High-Ultra range >60FPS longer but again, depends on the title(s).

I agree, the 1060 gb is the current "king" of 1080p 60fps gaming, but in these next few years games me be wayy harder to run making it necessary for something like a 1070. We just don't know. I am an enthusiast so I would go for the 1070, not to mention is should suit you well if you do decide to upgrade the monitor, it can handle 1440p and 4k gaming and high refresh rate 1080p gaming too.

What are the rest of the system specs? A mess up here could leave you not using the 1070 to the max performance anyways.

This are my specs. I forgot that I have to consider if my power supply would be enough to add a 1070, I guess it is tho
Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor
Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

 

[jacobweaver800]

It will depend on the settings. The 1060/580 is the perfect 1080p/60fps cards for high settings for today's AAA games. But the 1060 has been out for more than 2 years now and you cant expect it to sustain that type of performance for another 3 years.

That would put the card 5 years old at that point. Look at the similar card that was released 5 years ago, the gtx 760. Today, that card is incapable of running today's AAA games in the same manner that it was able to run AAA games in 2013.

The 1070 will be too much for your right now, but it will have more longevity. I would also suggest that maybe you don't lock yourself into your 1080p/60hz monitor for the next three years. In a year or two you may be able to get a budget 1080p/144hz for the cost of a couple of games.

I'd get the 1070, while it's probably a little more then needed at 1080P you can utilize Nvidia DSR to make games look a bit smoother over some AA settings. Pricing may lower soon when the newer cards come out.

Actually, pricing will go up after the launch. Miner's and Gamer's have been waiting on new cards to come out so they stopped buying Pascal. Buyers that didn't get their hands on Turing at launch will revert to buying Pascal again, driving prices back up again. Buy a card while you can and don't risk it.

 

[WildCard999]

I thought the home mining died down quite a bit which is why we've seen GPU pricing drop, there's some 580 8gb's cheaper then 1060 6gb right now.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethereum-profitability-down-difficulty-up,36691.html

 

[jacobweaver800]

I thought the home mining died down quite a bit which is why we've seen GPU pricing drop, there's some 580 8gb's cheaper then 1060 6gb right now.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethereum-profitability-down-difficulty-up,36691.html

It's not dead, it has slowed but mining is still very much alive. Miners and gamers are waiting for the new generation to launch because you can get more performance for similar pricing which for miners makes the ROI time better on a new GPU so they are waiting for it. Once they sell out they will buy Pascal cards because that's what's available, which will drive pricing back up.

 

[Barty1884]

There's speculation that miners' are holding back on buying due to the impending launch of new GPUs, but whether that's accurate or not is anybodies guess.

Speculating on pricing one way or another is pretty pointless IMO. If you need a GPU today, then buy today.
If new cards were dropping tomorrow, I'd say hold off and see, as there's no harm - but we're still mostly in the dark AFAIK.
There's a supposed leak of Aug/Sep/Oct 30 for the xx80/xx70/xx60 but it's essentially still a rumour.

Since you're looking in 1070 territory, based on prior launches etc, next gen xx60 cards will be in that same general space.
So unless you're prepared to wait until Oct/Nov (based on the leak), upcoming releases/performance/pricing are pretty irrelevant.

FWIW,
If the 11 series cards are groundbreaking performers in mining, then no reasonable miner is going to drop back to a 10 series card just due to availability - ROI would be poor vs just waiting, with resale value being pretty minimal.

Prices could come down, but that's unlikely for a while. They could also go up.... but I doubt it, unless there's a major shortage of 11 series cards (although there's a bunch of 10 series chips returned to Nvidia - they have to go somewhere).

 

[geofelt]

I5-8400 is a very good gaming processor.
One rule of thumb for a balanced gamer is to budget 2x the cost of the cpu for the graphics card.
I think you are spot on there considering GTX1060/GTX1070.
If you favor fast action shooters, look to a stronger graphics card.
If you favor mmo, sims, and strategy games, a lesser card will do.

Some comments on your parts list:

1. I5-8400 can not be overclocked and comes with a perfectly adequate stock cooler.
If you want a quieter cooler, the $35 scythe kotetsu is a much better cooler.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html

2. 120gb is too small for a windows C drive. Many things default to the C drive, and as it gets filled, it will lose performance and endurance.
Buy 240gb at least. You can defer on the hard drive until you actually need space. If you can manage 500gb, you may never need a hard drive at all.
I would pay a bit extra for Samsung EVO which seem to perform better and be a bit more reliable.

3. If you value fancy heat spreaders and "bling" then the vengeance ram is OK. I would buy the cheapest low profile ram if the price is sufficiently lower.

4. A 550w psu is sufficient to run even a GTX1080.
If the price is not too different, I would buy a 550w Seasonic focus for the better quality.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151203
$55 after rebate.

5. What will be your case?

3. If you do buy a hard drive, look at WD, they seem to be a bit more reliable.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

I thought the home mining died down quite a bit which is why we've seen GPU pricing drop, there's some 580 8gb's cheaper then 1060 6gb right now.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethereum-profitability-down-difficulty-up,36691.html

It's not dead, it has slowed but mining is still very much alive. Miners and gamers are waiting for the new generation to launch because you can get more performance for similar pricing which for miners makes the ROI time better on a new GPU so they are waiting for it. Once they sell out they will buy Pascal cards because that's what's available, which will drive pricing back up.

Mining is very not every profitable right now. Across the board crypto currencies are way down. This is why pricing for GPUs are down. Not because of the release of a new GPU from Nvidia.

The RX 580 earns less than a dollar a day (not including electricity) mining Ethereum and Eth is planning on moving to a Proof of Stake in 2018 which will drive the miners out. This time last year a 580 was earning closer to $7 per day. Mining may not be dead, but it is not doing well at all and it will take some time for crypto prices to raise where mining is more prevalent again.

It has been suggested by many tech sites to wait on buying a new GPU till the next gen Nvidia cards are released as you will see the 10xx cards drop even more in price. So I would wait a couple of weeks as you may see even more price drops.

 

[leproc]

I5-8400 is a very good gaming processor.
One rule of thumb for a balanced gamer is to budget 2x the cost of the cpu for the graphics card.
I think you are spot on there considering GTX1060/GTX1070.
If you favor fast action shooters, look to a stronger graphics card.
If you favor mmo, sims, and strategy games, a lesser card will do.

Some comments on your parts list:

1. I5-8400 can not be overclocked and comes with a perfectly adequate stock cooler.
If you want a quieter cooler, the $35 scythe kotetsu is a much better cooler.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html

2. 120gb is too small for a windows C drive. Many things default to the C drive, and as it gets filled, it will lose performance and endurance.
Buy 240gb at least. You can defer on the hard drive until you actually need space. If you can manage 500gb, you may never need a hard drive at all.
I would pay a bit extra for Samsung EVO which seem to perform better and be a bit more reliable.

3. If you value fancy heat spreaders and "bling" then the vengeance ram is OK. I would buy the cheapest low profile ram if the price is sufficiently lower.

4. A 550w psu is sufficient to run even a GTX1080.
If the price is not too different, I would buy a 550w Seasonic focus for the better quality.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151203
$55 after rebate.

5. What will be your case?

3. If you do buy a hard drive, look at WD, they seem to be a bit more reliable.

Thank you so much for your comments, I would've loved to read this before I built my pc. Actually I was recently thinking that I could've lower the price on the ram and get a better ssd. It was my first time so that is why it was kinda unperfect. I'm just waiting for my payday to buy my GPU and install it right away.
And about the gpu, Most of the games I like are shooters, so I'm going to get the 1070 so if change of mind in the future and I get a better monitor. Thanks for replying.

 

[firemrshlbill]

If you aren't in a rush, Nvidia is supposed to have a press event on Aug 20th where people think the 11xx release date will be announced. So just a week.

For 1080p 60fps, I think you will be fine for the next few years on a 1060 or RX580. How long do you expect to use it before upgrade? If 2 years is your timeframe, then grab the best deal you can get on one and save up for a GPU/monitor upgrade in a couple years. If you ware looking more in the 3-5 range, then get the best deal you can on the next tier up (1070/ti or Vega56).

Also, how caught up are you on games? Do you play when they are first released, or are you more of a "wait for Steam sales" person? If the latter, then I'd grab the 1060/580 now. Save up and upgrade gpu and monitor in a couple years. That saves you $150 now (RX580's for $250 vs 1070 for ~$400), and when you upgrade your monitor, you may want to jump to 4k or grab a freesync monitor, and then the 1070 isn't going to cut it by then, but that's you knowing you definitely will stick with your current monitor for a couple years to make use of the 1060/rx580.

For frame of reference, I am running a RX 580 on 1440p and if I get down to 60fps on high/ultra settings, I am pretty alarmed. I do turn some stuff down/off, like Hairworks in The Witcher 3 with some high settings instead of ultra to keep it above 60fps at 1440p. But still mostly ultra with some high peppered in in majority of games.