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Hi Guys.
My current setup is :
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Gigabyte H61M-S motherboard(rev. 1.0) |
I5-3570(non K) |
16gb DDRlll 1600mhz HyperX Fury RAM. |
Asus GTX 1050Ti. |
Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD. |
Toshiba P300 1tb HDD. |
Seagate Barracuda 2tb HDD. |
Corsair VS650 PSU. |
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And now I'm looking to upgrade the CPU and GPU by avoiding bottleneck. I'm interested to pair I7-3770 (non K)with GTX 1060 6GB and this combo will cost me about 213.xx$(94.xx$ CPU+121.xx$ GPU).
The K series 3770 is also available but the reason for not going for it is neither H61 support overclocking nor Z66/Z77 boards are available in new or used market.

How good is this build? Can I achieve at least 50%-60% performance improvement?
Will I see any bottleneck?
Which is the best GPU I can pair with 3770?
Is 3770 worth of an upgrade in 2020 for multitasking, editing and gaming?
Can I push this Setup next 1 or 2 year until I've good budget to build with latest components?
Should I go with Rx570 4GB instead of GTX 1060 6GB?
 
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No, and no.
First no is for the cpu upgrade
and the 2nd is for the 570. the 1060 6gig is better than the 570, around on par with the 580.

as for the cpu, for gaming, the i5 is not that far off the i7, and the upgrade for 100$ is not worth it.
I'd say, if it was 30$, maybe.
You can get new 100$ cpus (r3 3100 100$ or i3 10100 115$) that will smash both the i5 and i7.

If you want the best possible thing to do is don't get the i7 or the new gpu, which i will explain why in a bit, then save up a bit for a while, and get a basically whole new system.

You have a 1050 ti. the 1060 is 1 tier up, its barely 20% better, and will give you a mostly pretty samey feeling experience.
Getting the cpu and gpu will give you a marginally better computing experience.
I suggest saving up for just a while longer, and doing 1 of 2 things
1. get a better gpu, like, 1070ti, 2060 or up (or the new 3060 that will be out in around a week), which will be a little bit bottlenecked for a while, then getting a newer system later on with a mid-low end cpu, which, a new cpu, even the lowest tier won't bottleneck any gpu (though a new psu will be needed maybe)
or
2. Just, save up and get a new system, since upgrading that system isn't really worth it, if the current performance isn't amazing.
 

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a very good bang for buck gpu right now is vega 56 (especially now that the drivers have matured)
one of my friends runs it with a I7 3770 and is quite happy

If you can manage the thermals it can oc past 1070 levels

cpu wise i have to agree with siaan, i once did the same upgrade i5 3570 to I7 3770 and a performance boost was noticable, so price is a big factor
 

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You will see some gains in gaming from the upgrade you wrote, not sure if its worth it at this time.

The i7 3770 will help you with the 1% low FPS performance, but the AVG FPS will see a smaller gain and thats all (this gains come from the i7 little bit more boost frecuency and higher L3 cache than your current i5).

As for the GPU, I think thats the bigger gain in here, and depending on the title you may see over 40% more FPS (https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2658-gtx-1050-ti-and-1050-review-benchmarks-vs-460-more/page-4).

I do think the CPU price is a bit too high for a non-k used part.

I used to rock a GTX 1060 6GB and for 1080p it was a pretty solid card, but my old Core i5 3570 was limiting the performance.
 
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Hi Guys.
My current setup is :
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gigabyte H61M-S motherboard(rev. 1.0) |
I5-3570(non K) |
16gb DDRlll 1600mhz HyperX Fury RAM. |
Asus GTX 1050Ti. |
Samsung 860 Evo SSD. |
Toshiba P300 1tb HDD. |
Seagate Barracuda 2tb HDD. |
Corsair VS650 PSU. |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
And now I'm looking to upgrade the CPU and GPU by avoiding bottleneck. I'm interested to pair I7-3770 (non K)with GTX 1060 6GB and this combo will cost me about 213$(94$ CPU+121$ GPU).
The K series 3770 is also available but the reason for not going for it is neither H61 support overclocking nor Z66/Z77 boards are available in new or used market.

How good is this build? Can I achieve at least 50%-60% performance improvement?
Will I see any bottleneck?
Which is the beat GPU I can pair with 3770?
Is 3770 worth of an upgrade in 2020 for multitasking, editing and gaming?
Can I push this Setup next 1 or 2 year until I've good budget to build with latest components?
Should I go with Rx570 4GB instead of GTX 1060 6GB?
Hi Guys.
My current setup is :
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gigabyte H61M-S motherboard(rev. 1.0) |
I5-3570(non K) |
16gb DDRlll 1600mhz HyperX Fury RAM. |
Asus GTX 1050Ti. |
Samsung 860 Evo SSD. |
Toshiba P300 1tb HDD. |
Seagate Barracuda 2tb HDD. |
Corsair VS650 PSU. |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
And now I'm looking to upgrade the CPU and GPU by avoiding bottleneck. I'm interested to pair I7-3770 (non K)with GTX 1060 6GB and this combo will cost me about 213$(94$ CPU+121$ GPU).
The K series 3770 is also available but the reason for not going for it is neither H61 support overclocking nor Z66/Z77 boards are available in new or used market.

How good is this build? Can I achieve at least 50%-60% performance improvement?
Will I see any bottleneck?
Which is the beat GPU I can pair with 3770?
Is 3770 worth of an upgrade in 2020 for multitasking, editing and gaming?
Can I push this Setup next 1 or 2 year until I've good budget to build with latest components?
Should I go with Rx570 4GB instead of GTX 1060 6GB?
First of, the RX570/1060 will do fine, however I would not upgrade right now. Why? Firstly, the RX570/GTX1060 is not a worth upgrade from the GTX1050ti. I had the 1050 and wanted the 570 but I realised I wasn't going to benefit much. Therefore I would go for something better, such as 1660 level. However I still wouldn't upgrade, as mentioned above. You are not going to benefit much from older generation cpu's and will be very limited, and there is no way to 'remove a bottleneck'. There will always be a bottleneck, even in the most balanced systems.

Recommendations? I would not buy anything and I would keep saving for a new system, or doing small steps such as buying a new mobo/cpu/ram and then slowly buying a new gpu, psu etc. For your price point there is nothing major you could do but I would slowly save and buy a new system. I can tell you from where I started if you'd like inspiration, however try to save up. If you really can't then go for it but I highly recommend saving for the largest benefit.
 
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Actually, more recent driver improvements have the RX 570 matching/trading blows, with the 1060 6gb. Neither I would call a worth upgrade, from a 1050ti. I would say at minimum, an upgrade to a 1660ti. You may want to look at E3 Xeons, like the 1230 or better, should you decide on a CPU upgrade, for your existing board. They are basically i7's, without integrated graphics. Those ending in a 5 being the exception, as they have IGP.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H61M-S-rev-10/support#support-cpu
 

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First of, the RX570/1060 will do fine, however I would not upgrade right now. Why? Firstly, the RX570/GTX1060 is not a worth upgrade from the GTX1050ti. I had the 1050 and wanted the 570 but I realised I wasn't going to benefit much. Therefore I would go for something better, such as 1660 level. However I still wouldn't upgrade, as mentioned above. You are not going to benefit much from older generation cpu's and will be very limited, and there is no way to 'remove a bottleneck'. There will always be a bottleneck, even in the most balanced systems.

Recommendations? I would not buy anything and I would keep saving for a new system, or doing small steps such as buying a new mobo/cpu/ram and then slowly buying a new gpu, psu etc. For your price point there is nothing major you could do but I would slowly save and buy a new system. I can tell you from where I started if you'd like inspiration, however try to save up. If you really can't then go for it but I highly recommend saving for the largest benefit.
Yes I was also considering to continue on current 3570+1050Ti built for couple more months and keep on saving money and then Build my Dream PC Ryzen 5 3600+ B450 Tomahawk Max+ 1660 Super+ 8*2 16GB 3000Mhz DDR4
 
You can do this. I myself sport a i7-3770K oc to 4.4GHz

But there have been large improvements in terms of frame rate stability with later generations of intel processors. If stuttering doesn't bother you that much, then you'll be about ~20->30% slower (depending on title and resolution and gpu (Based on rough paper napkin math)) of most modern day processors. That is still highly playable at 1080p.

You could get a 1060, (Be sure to get 6GB version!) or a RX580 (which is considered faster). A RX5500 might be a better buy however.
 
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Best thing you can do for that CPU as said above is a RX 570 or a GTX 1650Ti. Also that is not a bad CPU if you just over her a bit. But without a OC it will suffer like a dog ya know. ✝🙈☮
 
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I just changed I7-3770 to I7-10700, yesterday.

The I7-3770 was actually quite good back when it first came out but now it's not that good. In my experienced, I paired I7 3770 with RX 470 (Performance near RX570 and 1060 3G) it was good slightly bottlenecked .

If you have another choice on getting new pc, you should at least get i3-10300 or Ryzen 3100 with any GPUs, it will be enough to handle everything. If you don't have choices, then get I7-3770 with 1060 6g.
 
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No, and no.
First no is for the cpu upgrade
and the 2nd is for the 570. the 1060 6gig is better than the 570, around on par with the 580.

as for the cpu, for gaming, the i5 is not that far off the i7, and the upgrade for 100$ is not worth it.
I'd say, if it was 30$, maybe.
You can get new 100$ cpus (r3 3100 100$ or i3 10100 115$) that will smash both the i5 and i7.

If you want the best possible thing to do is don't get the i7 or the new gpu, which i will explain why in a bit, then save up a bit for a while, and get a basically whole new system.

You have a 1050 ti. the 1060 is 1 tier up, its barely 20% better, and will give you a mostly pretty samey feeling experience.
Getting the cpu and gpu will give you a marginally better computing experience.
I suggest saving up for just a while longer, and doing 1 of 2 things
1. get a better gpu, like, 1070ti, 2060 or up (or the new 3060 that will be out in around a week), which will be a little bit bottlenecked for a while, then getting a newer system later on with a mid-low end cpu, which, a new cpu, even the lowest tier won't bottleneck any gpu (though a new psu will be needed maybe)
or
2. Just, save up and get a new system, since upgrading that system isn't really worth it, if the current performance isn't amazing.
How about stretch this 3570+1050ti for couple more months and then upgrade to complete new build like R5 3600+B450+1660 Super+8*2 16GB 3000Mhz DDR4???
 

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Best thing you can do for that CPU as said above is a RX 570 or a GTX 1650Ti. Also that is not a bad CPU if you just over her a bit. But without a OC it will suffer like a dog ya know. ✝🙈☮
The K version is available for 107+$ but I'm not interested to get that because my H61 can't OC.
 

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I just changed I7-3770 to I7-10700, yesterday.

The I7-3770 was actually quite good back when it first came out but now it's not that good. In my experienced, I paired I7 3770 with RX 470 (Performance near RX570 and 1060 3G) it was good slightly bottlenecked .

If you have another choice on getting new pc, you should at least get i3-10300 or Ryzen 3100 with any GPUs, it will be enough to handle everything. If you don't have choices, then get I7-3770 with 1060 6g.
This I7-3770 is a temporary upgrade for a year or two but my plan is to build R5 3600+1660 Super.
 

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You will see some gains in gaming from the upgrade you wrote, not sure if its worth it at this time.

The i7 3770 will help you with the 1% low FPS performance, but the AVG FPS will see a smaller gain and thats all (this gains come from the i7 little bit more boost frecuency and higher L3 cache than your current i5).

As for the GPU, I think thats the bigger gain in here, and depending on the title you may see over 40% more FPS (https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2658-gtx-1050-ti-and-1050-review-benchmarks-vs-460-more/page-4).

I do think the CPU price is a bit too high for a non-k used part.

I used to rock a GTX 1060 6GB and for 1080p it was a pretty solid card, but my old Core i5 3570 was limiting the performance.
So should I drop the plan of 3770 and keep saving money for higher new gen upgrade?
 

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if it a temporary upgrade then go for it. But you won't see much difference between your current rig and I7-3770 in term of game. Yes, it will improve on multi tasks
I don't want this upgrade only for multitasking. I'm spending 214$ so I want some significant improvement in gaming, multitasking, editing. Despite being 9 years old chip the Current i5-3570 is managing most of 2-3 years old AAA titles in medium to high settings and few in custom low settings(Ex:- AC Odyssey, Origins, Horizon Zero Dawn). I'm not seeing good structural details in game but the FPS I'm getting is very much playable.
 

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a very good bang for buck gpu right now is vega 56 (especially now that the drivers have matured)
one of my friends runs it with a I7 3770 and is quite happy

If you can manage the thermals it can oc past 1070 levels

cpu wise i have to agree with siaan, i once did the same upgrade i5 3570 to I7 3770 and a performance boost was noticable, so price is a big factor
So what do you think about the price I mentioned? Is it worth to spend that amount for Intel in 2020 when the competitor AMD has better n powerful future proof options? How about GPU? I didn't find any GTX 1060 6GB lower than that. Only Rx470 4GB from Sapphire Nitro+ cards cost 107$ which were RMA units and has few weeks testing warranty but availability is lesser than 1060.
 

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I don't want this upgrade only for multitasking. I'm spending 214$ so I want some significant improvement in gaming, multitasking, editing. Despite being 9 years old chip the Current i5-3570 is managing most of 2-3 years old AAA titles in medium to high settings and few in custom low settings(Ex:- AC Odyssey, Origins, Horizon Zero Dawn). I'm not seeing good structural details in game but the FPS I'm getting is very much playable.
Then I7-3770 is not your answer tho.
Probably get newer CPU, like Ryzen 3100 or i3-10300.
But that would cost you more than 214$ tho.

I paired I7-3770 with RX5700xt too, it ways better than RX470, however the CPU was crying for help.
It couldn't handle FHD at high or ultra settings in those game that you mentions.
Trust me, I have i7-3770 with me for 8 years. It was the beast back then but not now.
 
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Then I7-3770 is not your answer tho.
Probably get newer CPU, like Ryzen 3100 or i3-10300.
But that would cost you more than 214$ tho.

I paired I7-3770 with RX5700xt too, it ways better than RX470, however the CPU was crying for help.
It couldn't handle FHD at high or ultra settings in those game that you mentions.
Trust me, I have i7-3770 with me for 8 years. It was the beast back then but not now.
Most of open world RPG games which I prefer to play are CPU intensive and they demand more cores and speed. The upcoming games will be more CPU demanding as AMD already set bench of higher cores with multi threading now Intel is also following the same path.
Seems like I had to continue with my current setup for few more months until I had enough budget to build a rig like R5 3600 and 1660 Super/2060 Super.
 

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Most of open world RPG games which I prefer to play are CPU intensive and they demand more cores and speed. The upcoming games will be more CPU demanding as AMD already set bench of higher cores with multi threading now Intel is also following the same path.
Seems like I had to continue with my current setup for few more months until I had enough budget to build a rig like R5 3600 and 1660 Super/2060 Super.
Yes! You should! You will see the price drop when RYZEN 4000 come out. You could even get 4600 (If that even a thing)
But i choose to stay on Intel path. I trust them in term of stability. However 3600 will do just fine for the next 4-5 years!

Good luck!
 
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Yes! You should! You will see the price drop when RYZEN 4000 come out. You could even get 4600 (If that even a thing)
But i choose to stay on Intel path. I trust them in term of stability. However 3600 will do just fine for the next 4-5 years!

Good luck!
Although I'm getting 3770+1060 for 213$ but I can easily sell my current 3570+1050ti for approx 121$ which means I am buying that 3770+1060 combo for 94.xx$. How good is this? bellow 100$ is worth of an upgrade for few months untill my new built?
 

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You can do this. I myself sport a i7-3770K oc to 4.4GHz

But there have been large improvements in terms of frame rate stability with later generations of intel processors. If stuttering doesn't bother you that much, then you'll be about ~20->30% slower (depending on title and resolution and gpu (Based on rough paper napkin math)) of most modern day processors. That is still highly playable at 1080p.

You could get a 1060, (Be sure to get 6GB version!) or a RX580 (which is considered faster). A RX5500 might be a better buy however.
How much performance jump I can expect on 3770(non K)+1060 from 3570+1050ti? Is it worth of spending 100$ for this combo?( I'll get back approx 121$ after selling my 3570 and 1050ti)
 

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that would be ok in terms of pricing, you should be able to get that same price back if you sell it within a few months

in the end it is up to you, but that seems reasonable to me
If I calculate the selling price of my current 3570+1050ti combo which is approx 121$ and buying 3770+1060 for 213$ then the upgrade will cost me more or less 100$.
BTW I purchased both 3570 and 1050ti used condition not new and I can still sell them at approx same price.
 

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Although I'm getting 3770+1060 for 213$ but I can easily sell my current 3570+1050ti for approx 121$ which means I am buying that 3770+1060 combo for 94.xx$. How good is this? bellow 100$ is worth of an upgrade for few months untill my new built?
That's fine. 94$ is reasonable price for 9 years old system.
If it only for a few months then you should go for it.
But remember you won't see any difference in term of gaming performance.

I hope you find the solution. I'm here to help, ask away!
 
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