[SOLVED] GPU Horrible Performance After Using DDU

[Sithtiger]

So, I just got a 3080, have a 2080. I use DDU before I installed the 3080. I get horrible issues using both 471.68 & 471.41. I used DDU both times. I was going to send the GPU back, when I put my 2080 back and I have the same thing happen, just lower frames anyway of course, but I did the same thing and used DDU in safe mode (for both cards) and I get horrible stuttering and micro-stuttering & I have no idea why?!? It happens in all games, however the older the game, the better it runs, but even BF4 has issues running. I've tried Warzone, BF1, Hellblade, Borderlands 3. It affects all of them and I have no idea why. I changed nothing else. The only other thing I did was move my HDDs and SSD's around because of the size of the card and reattached them with different SATA cables. They're the same cables, just different order, but that doesn't matter. Windows sees everything just fine.

Does anyone have an idea as to what might be wrong? Thanks in advance.

 

[alceryes]

Please list full system specs (including PSU) and give us some examples of these 'horrible issues'.
Also, DDU does a great job of cleaning old GPU info out of the OS but it's not a necessity unless you are actually having issues prior to using DDU. There's nothing inherently wrong with the uninstall process that both NVIDIA and AMD use with their drivers.

 

[Sithtiger]

OK, updated specs, save the 3080. The issues I'm having with all FPS games that I've tried so far are both major stuttering and also micro-stutters, as in I'm moving and I'll stop for 1/10 of a second or slightly longer and it will happen over and over again. Sometimes it's not as bad, but the micro stutters are just as bad. Sure I could lower the settings and I'm sure that would work, but I had no problem running BF1 getting, honestly, I don't remember for sure, but it had to be around 150 FPS or so, but no stutters at all in any game. In BF4, I could set the resolution to 200% and get 200 FPS+. This is all on the 2080.

On the 3080, the exact same things would happen, which I started with when I noticed problems. I got higher framerates, but not as high as they should be according to GPUCHECK.COM comparing the 2080 vs the 3080 and my 3080, which is a GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3080 VISION OC doesn't even measure up to the low end on that site. I know my RAM might take away 10 FPS max, but that's it. According gpucheck.com, this 3080 gets sometimes 100 FPS less in games, like Warzone. I thought it strange that I was only getting like 25 FPS in Warzone. That and the same stuttering and micro stutters in games. I can fire and be in one spot and then suddenly be in another spot or get killed and it's not the server. I tried dozens of games on both drivers on both the 3080 and then again when I put the 2080 back in. I thought the 3080 was bad, but now I think it's a driver issue.

I'd get frame drops too. I wish I ran HWiNFO64, but, well I'm having other issues too and I know enough that something is wrong and this smacks of a driver issue, but I just don't understand why DDU would cause this. I've used it for years and this has never happened before, however, I have had an issue where I uninstalled a driver, a game-ready driver, and used DDU, and then tried an Nvidia Studio Driver and it didn't recognize my GPU. I had to download an altered driver from guru3d.com for it to work, then after that, it was fine. I don't use DDU anymore unless I get a new GPU, so that's why I used it. I don't think I even needed to change drivers, because they use the same driver for both GPUs, but I've always done that in the past and did that this time too. This time I'm going to try a variety of drivers. As I said, I'll format if I have to, but I don't want to. I went to use a restore point only to find all my restore points were gone. No, I hadn't been infected, but I did upgrade Windows to a big version number which if I recall you can't restore back to unless you made a backup, which the one I have is old. Anyway, I hope this helps you understand what's going on a little more.

 

[Sithtiger]

I happened to see this while using DDU again a screenshot of it. I saw that it said that it detected a 3080, but also a 2080 too. It says it's detecting two different GPUs! Here's the screenshot and a log file. I'm not certain how to read the log, but I do see both a 2080 and a 3080 in it. Could someone please read the DDU log file and tell me if that is what it's saying and if so, how do I fix it, save a format? Why isn't DDU wiping everything regarding the driver like it's supposed to? DDU screenshot DDU Log

 

[alceryes]

I happened to see this while using DDU again a screenshot of it. I saw that it said that it detected a 3080, but also a 2080 too...

It didn't detect the 2080 hardware it just detected that a 2080 had been installed at some point.
If you go into your Device Manager - select View - select Show Hidden Items. Now expand display adapters. If you hadn't run DDU you would see your RTX 3080 but also a shaded icon RTX 2080. That just means that Windows has had an RTX 2080 installed at some time. Note - don't just go through and delete items with a shaded icon.

For your primary issue, please run all your drives manufacturer tools to show health and drive remaining life. Is the game or any part of the OS (programs, pagefile, etc.) installed on your HDD?
Also run HWiNFO64 in the background (sensors only, logging on) while gaming for at least 30 mins. Then, go through the logs or upload them somewhere we can grab them

 

[Sithtiger]

I wanted to thank everyone "alceryes" for their help. Everything works fine now. I ended up reformatting. Everything is fine with the 3080 too. So far, it's a great GPU, and it's performing above expectations. The initial problems I was having with it seeing two GPUs were taken care of after using DDU again, actually. Most of the other issues fell into place after that was corrected, but I had changed and tweaked so many things, registry settings, services that I might as well reformat. Why didn't you back up? I did actually but didn't have a redundant backup like I usually do. I usually have a system restore backup followed by an actual Windows Restore disc, via DVD, but because I had just built this back at the end of March, the ONE time I did NOT make a DVD backup is when I needed it the most. My restore point didn't fail, it was overwritten because I didn't readjust the disk space usage, so that's on me. This year hasn't been so great, however, I think maybe a couple of people can relate :|.

So, all games, save my Battlefield games work great. I don't know if I mentioned this before or not, but I did find a fix for the BF games and that was simply to enable V-sync. I have an LG 1080p 144Hz monitor, so the 3080 can easily. I don't know if that will work with Battlefield 2042, but I think it will because of the specs, I believe I can turn everything up to 11 on the video/advanced settings and it will hopefully run smooth as butter.

I do remember having issues with my 2080 with Frostbite engine-based games, at least FPS, especially Battlefield. I don't know why, but for whatever reason, it worked itself out and I don't recall it was something I did to fix it. I believe it's a driver issue. It's just weird that even the 2080 had issues after I fixed the 3080's issues. I haven't tried it with the 2080 since the format. There is one other game that I can think of that had problems with the 2080 and 3080 and that was Metro: Exodus, but that too was corrected with enabling V-sync. Again, 90% of my games run perfectly now with the 3080.

Oh, and I emailed Gigabyte and asked about the condition in which I received my GPU, that is no tape on the box itself, but the yellow tape on the electrostatic bag. That said that is how they ship their GPUs. The GPU is new from what I can tell. It even smelled new, but odd issues combined with the weird shipping methods made me think otherwise.

Also, when I went into Device Manager, it didn't display the 2080 in there. I absolutely believe what you said was true, but I think after I went into DDU, it finally removed the other instance of it and that's why it didn't show up in DM. I think that's also why most everything was working better. I still had issues (as I said above) because of the many changes, but all that was corrected after the format.

So, I'd say this case is solved. That's again, alceryes for your response to my post!

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Shouldn’t have to enable vsync. I would assume you’ve got a free sync monitor. If so, have a look here.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-freesync-display-nvidia-gpu