Question GPU recommendations for a Ryzen 9 3900x and 750 W Titanium PSU

[pengi123]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
Jan 2020

BUDGET RANGE:
~$1000

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
Gaming, Productivity (IDEs + Docker)

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY:
GPU = RTX 2070 Super (Founder's Edition)
PSU = SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:

CPU​	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor​	​
CPU Cooler​	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler​	-​
Motherboard​	Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard​	-​
Memory​	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory​	-​
Memory​	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory​	-​
Storage​	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive​	-​
Video Card​	NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card​	-​
Case​	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case​	-​
Power Supply​	SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan​

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:
Amazon, NewEgg, BestBuy, B&H
(Preferably non-3rd party sellers/shippers)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:
US

PARTS PREFERENCES:
AMD or Nvidia are ok.
I prefer the look of the reference / founder's cards, but not a huge deal.

OVERCLOCKING:
No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE:
No

MONITOR RESOLUTION:
1440p @ 140Hz

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Target gaming settings: 1440p 144Hz, high to ultra, no RT necessary
Target FPS: 60+

Will try to keep it concise.

• PC was built in early 2020
• GPU works well as a mid range, but I want more frames + capability to bump up graphic settings
• I love my current build as a productivity workstation because I can do so much at once with no slow down due to the CPU and RAM
• So I want to extend the usage of all my current components and only upgrade the GPU as far as my 750 W Titanium PSU will allow

I ran some tests with my current build.

• Settings ranged from Medium to High
• GPU @ 100% usage during gaming
• CPU @ 20 - 50% usage during gaming (depends on game)

Games tested: Cyberpunk, MWII, BF2042, Deathloop, Diablo 2R, Fortnite, Doom Eternal

I measured power usage with a Kill a watt between the PSU and the outlet. PSU age is ~3 years.

• Total Power Usage (Gaming): 350-380 W
• Total Power Usage (Productivity): ~150 W

I am more on the hopeful side that my 750W Titanium PSU will be able to handle a mid to higher end card due to the quality and age.

The GPUs I am considering are

• 6800 XT
• 7900 XT
• 3070 TI
• 3080 / 3080 Ti
• 3090

I have found reasons to EXCLUDE the following from consideration, but would like to hear other opinions

• 6700 XT - (not a big enough improvement)
• 6800 - (not a big enough improvement)
• 6900 XT - (requires 850 W, but this review shows not a high power consumption:
  View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxQ0-QtAtxA&t=679s
  )
• 6950 XT - (requires 850 W)
• 7900 XTX - (requires 800 W)
• 3060 / 3060 Ti - (not a big enough improvement)
• 3070 - (not a big enough improvement)
• 3090 Ti - (price + requires 850 W)
• 4080 - (price, but I do like the look of the FEs)
• 4090 - (price + requires 850 W)

 

[Fix_that_Glitch]

I would think you are in the RTX 3080 12GB range for price and performance . MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card RTX 3080 GAMING Z TRIO 12G LHR - Newegg.com I know it is over your price range by $100 + tax. Then maybe a 3070TI, it has 36% more performance than the 2070. ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti OC V2 Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 8GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Dual ball Fan Bearings, Military-grade Certification, GPU Tweak III) - Newegg.com

 

[geofelt]

Here is a handy chart as to what wattage it takes to run various graphics cards:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
In theory, a 3090 could run.
But, 3000 series cards have some high power spikes so I would be most comfortable with the 3070ti.
Your psu is of outstanding quality so you could try a RTX3080 that is not one of the factory overclocked versions.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I would think you are in the RTX 3080 12GB range for price and performance . MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card RTX 3080 GAMING Z TRIO 12G LHR - Newegg.com I know it is over your price range by $100 + tax. Then maybe a 3070TI, it has 36% more performance than the 2070. ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti OC V2 Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 8GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Dual ball Fan Bearings, Military-grade Certification, GPU Tweak III) - Newegg.com

Yes, I would propose this card too. Great 1440p game play, and even 4k lower settings for some games. The newer 4080 is not worth the money IMO.

You could snag this one cheap if you keep an eye out for some deals.

 

[pengi123]

I would think you are in the RTX 3080 12GB range for price and performance . MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card RTX 3080 GAMING Z TRIO 12G LHR - Newegg.com I know it is over your price range by $100 + tax. Then maybe a 3070TI, it has 36% more performance than the 2070. ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti OC V2 Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 8GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Dual ball Fan Bearings, Military-grade Certification, GPU Tweak III) - Newegg.com

Yes, I would propose this card too. Great 1440p game play, and even 4k lower settings for some games. The newer 4080 is not worth the money IMO.

You could snag this one cheap if you keep an eye out for some deals.

Am very tempted by the 3080. Would it still be your preference over the RX 6800 XT (which seems to be its equivalent) or a similarly priced 6900 XT?
I see that the 6900 XT requires a 850 W PSU, but maybe 750 W would be fine?

Here is a handy chart as to what wattage it takes to run various graphics cards:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
In theory, a 3090 could run.
But, 3000 series cards have some high power spikes so I would be most comfortable with the 3070ti.
Your psu is of outstanding quality so you could try a RTX3080 that is not one of the factory overclocked versions.

Thanks for the link, super helpful. I was just going by the cards manufacturer page for the recommended PSU requirements. I am more leaning towards the 3080 since I won't do any OC...maybe even the 6800 XT or 6900 XT which that website says are close, if I feel like taking a risk.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Am very tempted by the 3080. Would it still be your preference over the RX 6800 XT (which seems to be its equivalent) or a similarly priced 6900 XT?
I see that the 6900 XT requires a 850 W PSU, but maybe 750 W would be fine?

Actually the RX 6700/6800 really compete on price v the Nvidia equivalent. If you like RT features then get the RTX, if you are just after pure FPS and top game settings (without RT), then AMD make an argument.

 

[--SID--]

RTX 3070 max because Prime Titanium has issues with a 3080 and higher.

And I don't agree the outstanding quality because why the heck does Seasonic rate this 'outstanding' PSU for only 40 degrees.

 

[Nighthawk117]

My preference would be for the 3080 but as @--SID-- says, there are concerns surrounding the power spikes and the Seasonic Prime PSU's.

 

[pengi123]

RTX 3070 max because Prime Titanium has issues with a 3080 and higher.

And I don't agree the outstanding quality because why the heck does Seasonic rate this 'outstanding' PSU for only 40 degrees.

My preference would be for the 3080 but as @--SID-- says, there are concerns surrounding the power spikes and the Seasonic Prime PSU's.

Thanks for the advice, I was feeling a little risky and wanting to take a chance with a higher end card, but maybe not :/

 

[Fix_that_Glitch]

Thanks for the advice, I was feeling a little risky and wanting to take a chance with a higher end card, but maybe not :/

Go for the 3080 if you want it. Your psu is highly reviewed and rated. So you can't sit in the desert at 104F and use it above 80% draw. Are you ever going to use it that way lol?

 

[Ar558]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
Jan 2020

BUDGET RANGE:
~$1000

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
Gaming, Productivity (IDEs + Docker)

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY:
GPU = RTX 2070 Super (Founder's Edition)
PSU = SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:

CPU​	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor​	​
CPU Cooler​	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler​	-​
Motherboard​	Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard​	-​
Memory​	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory​	-​
Memory​	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory​	-​
Storage​	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive​	-​
Video Card​	NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card​	-​
Case​	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case​	-​
Power Supply​	SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan​	-​
Case Fan​	Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan​

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:
Amazon, NewEgg, BestBuy, B&H
(Preferably non-3rd party sellers/shippers)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:
US

PARTS PREFERENCES:
AMD or Nvidia are ok.
I prefer the look of the reference / founder's cards, but not a huge deal.

OVERCLOCKING:
No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE:
No

MONITOR RESOLUTION:
1440p @ 140Hz

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Target gaming settings: 1440p 144Hz, high to ultra, no RT necessary
Target FPS: 60+

Will try to keep it concise.

• PC was built in early 2020
• GPU works well as a mid range, but I want more frames + capability to bump up graphic settings
• I love my current build as a productivity workstation because I can do so much at once with no slow down due to the CPU and RAM
• So I want to extend the usage of all my current components and only upgrade the GPU as far as my 750 W Titanium PSU will allow

I ran some tests with my current build.

• Settings ranged from Medium to High
• GPU @ 100% usage during gaming
• CPU @ 20 - 50% usage during gaming (depends on game)

Games tested: Cyberpunk, MWII, BF2042, Deathloop, Diablo 2R, Fortnite, Doom Eternal

I measured power usage with a Kill a watt between the PSU and the outlet. PSU age is ~3 years.

• Total Power Usage (Gaming): 350-380 W
• Total Power Usage (Productivity): ~150 W

I am more on the hopeful side that my 750W Titanium PSU will be able to handle a mid to higher end card due to the quality and age.

The GPUs I am considering are

• 6800 XT
• 7900 XT
• 3070 TI
• 3080 / 3080 Ti
• 3090

I have found reasons to EXCLUDE the following from consideration, but would like to hear other opinions

• 6700 XT - (not a big enough improvement)
• 6800 - (not a big enough improvement)
• 6900 XT - (requires 850 W, but this review shows not a high power consumption:
  View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxQ0-QtAtxA&t=679s
  )
• 6950 XT - (requires 850 W)
• 7900 XTX - (requires 800 W)
• 3060 / 3060 Ti - (not a big enough improvement)
• 3070 - (not a big enough improvement)
• 3090 Ti - (price + requires 850 W)
• 4080 - (price, but I do like the look of the FEs)
• 4090 - (price + requires 850 W)

Firstly, great info there, makes it easier to make a recommendation.
I would go 3070Ti that should give you 1440p at High to Ultra in almost all games. (I would also consider a 6800XT if it was on offer to close to a 3070Ti)