Graphics cards to 4K 100+ fps monitor

[PCguy132]

I am building a computer but i wondered which graphics cards i should choose. I would like a 4K monitor with 100+ fps. I have looket at: dual nVidiaTitan X or dual nVidia 980Ti.

Which of these options should i choose? Should i choose a 3 graphics card setup instead? If you have another better solution i would also appreciate that!

If you have a good 4K monitor with 100+ fps you can recommend i would be glad to hear it 😀 I think it should have a displayport 1.4. Maybe. Or a displayport 1.3. I dont know.

 

[Hyboria]

Not that you'll get 100+ fps in 4K even with a tri-SLI setup, but have a look at the Acer:

http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-x34-series

Can achieve 100Hz in 'Overclocking' mode.

Edit: I should add that you'll probably be able to achieve 100+ fps in a very few titles. It's entirely dependent whether those games are optimised for SLI or not.

 

[smorizio]

the new pascal paper launch is today at noon est. you should watch nvidia web info on it.

 

[PCguy132]

Yes Hyboria it can get 100 fps but it only have a displayport 1.2 and a HDMI port 1.4. Out of them is the DP 1.2 best. But i can only tranfer up to 60 fps ...
Are there a smart way to maybe combine 2 displayport-cables into one or something?

 

[Mr Kagouris]

have a look at the Acer:

http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-x34-series

Can achieve 100Hz in 'Overclocking' mode.

The Acer Predator X34 and its Asus equivalent are both 1440p ultrawide monitors, not 4K (2160p), on top of which many of them have been reported having tremendous backlight bleed. There is no 4K monitor with a higher refresh rate than 60Hz at the moment due to both GPU power limitations and interface limitations. In simple terms, we don't have access to any GPU configuration that can viably run triple-A games at more than 60FPS at 4K. Arguably you can run some lighter titles at those framerates (such as common MOBAs and light FPSs), however there isn't yet a revision of DisplayPort capable of transferring the amount of data required for 100-144FPS at 4K.

Pascal however (and probably Polaris) will in all likelihood offer good enough performance to make such framerates viable, and a DP revision capable of the transfer rates required will follow along with monitors capable of those refresh rates.

 

[PCguy132]

have a look at the Acer:

http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-x34-series

Can achieve 100Hz in 'Overclocking' mode.

The Acer Predator X34 and its Asus equivalent are both 1440p ultrawide monitors, not 4K (2160p), on top of which many of them have been reported having tremendous backlight bleed. There is no 4K monitor with a higher refresh rate than 60Hz at the moment due to both GPU power limitations and interface limitations. In simple terms, we don't have access to any GPU configuration that can viably run triple-A games at more than 60FPS at 4K. Arguably you can run some lighter titles at those framerates (such as common MOBAs and light FPSs), however there isn't yet a revision of DisplayPort capable of transferring the amount of data required for 100-144FPS at 4K.

Pascal however (and probably Polaris) will in all likelihood offer good enough performance to make such framerates viable, and a DP revision capable of the transfer rates required will follow along with monitors capable of those refresh rates.

There is the Display port 1.3 cable ...

 

[Mr Kagouris]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

 

[RCFProd]

What are you talking about PCguy?

 

[PCguy132]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

Yes this monitor can run 4K at 144 Hz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00O0Z5682&linkCode=as2&tag=monkeytrucker-20&linkId=2IG7PBFY2QPTD5LO

Look in the video about 30 sek.

 

[PCguy132]

What are you talking about PCguy?

There is the displayport 1.3 cable that can transfer 4K in 144 Hz.

 

[RCFProd]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

Yes this monitor can run 4K at 144 Hz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00O0Z5682&linkCode=as2&tag=monkeytrucker-20&linkId=2IG7PBFY2QPTD5LO

Look in the video about 30 sek.

That's not that monitor in particular though It's just an example of what G-sync looks like at 144Hz. It's demonstrating Acer's features on their monitors, your monitor will be 60Hz.

 

[PCguy132]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

Yes this monitor can run 4K at 144 Hz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00O0Z5682&linkCode=as2&tag=monkeytrucker-20&linkId=2IG7PBFY2QPTD5LO

Look in the video about 30 sek.

That's not that monitor in particular though It's just an example of what G-sync looks like at 144Hz. It's demonstrating Acer's features on their monitors, your monitor will be 60Hz.

Ok thanks ;D. But which cables should i then use to come over 60 Hz on the Acer?

 

[RCFProd]

Displayport 1.3 will be able to do that on standard dynamic range.

 

[PCguy132]

Displayport 1.3 will be able to do that on standard dynamic range.

Yes but which monitor does have that and 4K?

 

[RCFProd]

Any 4K@60Hz monitor has both standard and high dynamic range I think. Any displayport entry on a 4k monitor can support up to 1.4 I think.

 

[PCguy132]

Any 4K@60Hz monitor has both standard and high dynamic range I think. Any displayport entry on a 4k monitor can support up to 1.4 I think.

Shure? So the Acer monitor can support a 1.4 displayport cable? But why do they then write that it support a 1.2 cable. Is it because that it then doesn't support a lower rated cable?

 

[Mr Kagouris]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

Yes this monitor can run 4K at 144 Hz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00O0Z5682&linkCode=as2&tag=monkeytrucker-20&linkId=2IG7PBFY2QPTD5LO

Look in the video about 30 sek.

That's not that monitor in particular though It's just an example of what G-sync looks like at 144Hz. It's demonstrating Acer's features on their monitors, your monitor will be 60Hz.

Ok thanks ;D. But which cables should i then use to come over 60 Hz on the Acer?

Even if you use newer revision of DP it won't do you much good. Monitors don't magically run at higher refresh rates because you plugged in a better cable. The monitor is and will be limited to 60Hz unless you want to overclock an 800$ monitor to get at best 10 more Hertz. Wait for Pascal, wait for 4K monitors rated at 144Hz.

 

[PCguy132]

But is there a monitor that can run at 4k 100+ Hz?

Yes this monitor can run 4K at 144 Hz:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00O0Z5682&linkCode=as2&tag=monkeytrucker-20&linkId=2IG7PBFY2QPTD5LO

Look in the video about 30 sek.

That's not that monitor in particular though It's just an example of what G-sync looks like at 144Hz. It's demonstrating Acer's features on their monitors, your monitor will be 60Hz.

Ok thanks ;D. But which cables should i then use to come over 60 Hz on the Acer?

Even if you use newer revision of DP it won't do you much good. Monitors don't magically run at higher refresh rates because you plugged in a better cable. The monitor is and will be limited to 60Hz unless you want to overclock an 800$ monitor to get at best 10 more Hertz. Wait for Pascal, wait for 4K monitors rated at 144Hz.

When i said "the Acer" i meant: http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-x34-series
And it can be overclocked to 100Hz

 

[Mr Kagouris]

Oh, well yes that monitor can run at 100Hz, but it's not 4K. It's 1440p ultrawide. Also, I'm not sure I can recommend the Predator X34. Too many people have complained about unacceptable levels of backlight bleed with it.

 

[PCguy132]

Oh, well yes that monitor can run at 100Hz, but it's not 4K. It's 1440p ultrawide. Also, I'm not sure I can recommend the Predator X34. Too many people have complained about unacceptable levels of backlight bleed with it.

Ok then I'll maybe take another resolution. Maybe This one:
http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-z35-series

But with witch cable should i use for it? Is a displayport 1.2 cable fine? Would it be good enough to play in about 180 Hz with that resolution (2560*1080)? Or should i use another cable?

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

You're not going to see 4k 144 Hz for a while, I'm guessing 2-3 more years. SLI and Crossfire support in games is actually declining. And, as soon as the new lighting technique is introduced in games, watch how future graphics cards are going to struggle at 4k just like today.

 

[PCguy132]

Yes i know. That is why i choose This one with 2560x1080: http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-z35-series

But which cable should i choose for it? I would like it go have about 120-200 Hz.

 

[Mr Kagouris]

You're not going to see 4k 144 Hz for a while, I'm guessing 2-3 more years. SLI and Crossfire support in games is actually declining. And, as soon as the new lighting technique is introduced in games, watch how future graphics cards are going to struggle at 4k just like today.

Well that really is not something we can completely predict. If Pascal delivers the performance boost it promises 4k 144Hz will become viable enough to actually make 4K monitors that can run at 144Hz. If not, then it will take around 2-3 more years as you suggest. And I don't really see the "declining" SLI and Crossfire support you are referring to. The only noteworthy games so far that haven't had SLI or Crossfire support are terrible console ports. In fact multi-card configurations are likely to receive even better support now that DX12 makes it possible to utilize multiple GPUs independently. Once we have some new major game engines built on DX12 we'll probably see a lot more of that feature.

As for new lighting techniques, I'm guessing it's going to optional as I don't see the gaming industry f**king itself over by making 80% of the PC market unable to run their games well, even at 1080p.

So as I previously said, wait for Pascal, and 4K 144Hz should follow.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

You make good points, but trust me, companies would never make that bad business decisions, that's just what the consumers want, not what we'll be getting anytime soon. They are going to make as much money as possible, so expect 10% GPU performance improvements per new generation, just like the last 4 years. NVIDIA are basically Apple, good marketing, poor and often overpriced results. Better lighting and heavier textures is definitely down to settings, that's correct, but if you're looking at 4k 144 Hz, and with a budget that big, no doubt the OP wants to max games out. Infact, playing at 1440p 144 Hz at max is better than 4k at mid/low. Visual acuity does play a big part here, but leaving science out of this, 1440p is the best option, and will be for years.

 

[PCguy132]

So as I previously said, wait for Pascal, and 4K 144Hz should follow.

Ok but when will the pascal be released. And If it does what you say they have said it would (4K on 144 Hz) when would a monitor with 4K and 144Hz then release (do you think)?