Graphics Crossfire pair for AMD A4-6300 for gaming?

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

So I have a custom built PC with the following specs:
AMD A4-6300 APU @3.7Ghz with Radeon HD Graphics
Mobo is a Gigabyte F2A58M-DS2
HDD 1 is a Seagate Barracuda 160 GB 7200 rpm
HDD 2 is a Seagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200 rpm
PSU is a CiVo ATX-600W


I want to know what is the best graphic card pair for my PC.

 

[RobCrezz]

GTX 750 Ti would be the best option.

Its low power, but still good performance. Not worth going for anything better because your PSU is bad, and your CPU is low-end.

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

GTX 750 Ti would be the best option.

Its low power, but still good performance. Not worth going for anything better because your PSU is bad, and your CPU is low-end.

Well I guess I'll just have to start with a low-end GPU and later on buy a new PSU and sell the graphics card to buy a new one too. I am planning to buy a Sapphire Radeon R7 240 2GB DDR3. Is that a good entry level for mid-range spec gaming?

 

[RobCrezz]

No, the 240 is a bad card, not worth the money.

I really would recommend the 750 ti as the lowest card.

 

[Viking2121]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

No, the 240 is a bad card, not worth the money.

I really would recommend the 750 ti as the lowest card.

The 240 I am planning to buy is second hand from a friend of mine that he shall give to me 40% to 60% less than the original price though. I can't seem to find anymore cheap graphic cards to start with. BTW the games I am gonna run are not that graphic intensive games.
Currently these are the titles and resolutions I am running while my AMD Radeon HD engine clock is boosted at 1200 MHz

DOTA 2:
1280x900
Exclusive Window Mode
Medium Graphic Settings
V-sync enabled
Ambient Occlusions disabled
65% Screen render
32-51 fps
Anti-Aliasing disabled

Need For Speed MW 2012:
800x600
Medium Graphic Settings
V-sync disabled
Ambient Occlusions disabled
30 fps lock
Anti-Aliasing 2X

Borderlands 2
800x600
Medium Settings
V-sync disabled
Ambient Occlusions enabled
42-65 fps
Anti-aliasing 4X

and other games

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

Then crossfire would be impossible right? As the AMD crossfire required another AMD Radeon graphics?

 

[Viking2121]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

Then crossfire would be impossible right? As the AMD crossfire required another AMD Radeon graphics?

"According to AMD, the A4 series of APUs does not support dual graphics: you need an A6 at least. See http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations...aphics#desktop"

Source = http://forums.hexus.net/cpus/326401-dual-graphics-problem-amd-a4-6300-hd-6450-msi-a88xm-e35.html

The A4 can not be crossfired unfortunately, I would avoid the R7 240 if you can, its only marginally better than the HD6450 and that card can't really play anything at or above 720p, even at 720 some games will not even play on the R7 240.

I would suggest an R7 260/260x or an R7 360/360x, but I stand behind the GTX 750ti as it will perform much better than all of them options I mentioned. If you're really tight on a budget, don't be afraid to look around on eBay, just make sure the seller is trustworthy.

I wouldn't suggest getting anything stronger than them cards, them A4 APU's are pretty low end, unless you do plan on upgrading everything then get as fast of a video card that you can so you could use it in another build.

 

[jtk2515]

if you not even gaming over 1280. you could wait for amd's 460 to come out for 99 dollars it is 75watts. if you really want to get the best deal you need to take a pic of you PSU voltage table so we can see how many watts of GPU you can get. I could not find any info for your PSU online.

 

[Epicness937]

i think that if this is for light gaming at low settings at 1080p a gtx 750 ti is the best as it may get slightly bottlenecked but that cpu that cpu is very weak.
now a r7 240 is a very weak card and not that much more powerful than the gpu in your apu in the first place so unless its less than say 20$ its not at all worth it and even then i still would not get it.
now for your system if you want anything higher than the low or maybe medium settings on games a cpu and/or motherboard upgrade is a good idea
for cpu alone a amd a10-7860k or 7870k is the best as when being fm2+ WILL work with your board so they will be lots faster than what you have now allowing you to get a 750 ti or something faster
your other option which i dont really recomend at this point for your budget is get a skylake i3 or i5 system but i think a a10 system is better for you as you most likely dont want to spend a lot of money on a huge upgrade right now judging by the r7 240 your looking at
and lastly no matter what GET A NEW PSU.

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

if you not even gaming over 1280. you could wait for amd's 460 to come out for 99 dollars it is 75watts. if you really want to get the best deal you need to take a pic of you PSU voltage table so we can see how many watts of GPU you can get. I could not find any info for your PSU online.

Yeah it's a local brand PSU...wait lemme take a picture

Here's the link: https://postimg.org/image/j6vit4jap/

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

Then crossfire would be impossible right? As the AMD crossfire required another AMD Radeon graphics?

"According to AMD, the A4 series of APUs does not support dual graphics: you need an A6 at least. See http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations...aphics#desktop"

Source = http://forums.hexus.net/cpus/326401-dual-graphics-problem-amd-a4-6300-hd-6450-msi-a88xm-e35.html

The A4 can not be crossfired unfortunately, I would avoid the R7 240 if you can, its only marginally better than the HD6450 and that card can't really play anything at or above 720p, even at 720 some games will not even play on the R7 240.

I would suggest an R7 260/260x or an R7 360/360x, but I stand behind the GTX 750ti as it will perform much better than all of them options I mentioned. If you're really tight on a budget, don't be afraid to look around on eBay, just make sure the seller is trustworthy.

I wouldn't suggest getting anything stronger than them cards, them A4 APU's are pretty low end, unless you do plan on upgrading everything then get as fast of a video card that you can so you could use it in another build.

I did some research on my AMD A4-6300 APU...it says it does support dual graphics. I can still remember the box of the APU stating Dual Graphics support T_T

Source: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113349

 

[jtk2515]

GTX 750 Ti would be the best option.

Its low power, but still good performance. Not worth going for anything better because your PSU is bad, and your CPU is low-end.

I'm not a PSU expert but that seems like a decent PSU if you can get 522W combined on both +12@29amps.

I it was me .I would buy a 970 or amd 480. So I can play in 1080p with low med settings till i can get a better CPU(if you have a 1080p monitor or tv). But if your not even running 1080p then a 750ti like he said or a amd 460 would do you fine.

 

[Epicness937]

GTX 750 Ti would be the best option.

Its low power, but still good performance. Not worth going for anything better because your PSU is bad, and your CPU is low-end.

I'm not a PSU expert but that seems like a decent PSU if you can get 522W combined on both +12@29amps.

I it was me .I would buy a 970 or amd 480. So I can play in 1080p with low med settings till i can get a better CPU(if you have a 1080p monitor or tv). But if your not even running 1080p then a 750ti like he said or a amd 460 would do you fine.

i would not put a nice gpu in that system i dont trust that psu 95% of the time if its not known or reviewed its not good
get a evga b2 or b1 unit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438028

 

[jtk2515]

I can only go off what the name plate says. I'm not a PSU expert. if you only going to put 250-300 watts on the +12 and it's speced for 522watts. Seems good for me. No one can guaranteed anything. CAN a KIA and BMW RUN at 60 MPH, 120MPH and 150MPH. I would not take the KIA to 150MPH. With PSU's it's a mixed bag with non branded. I can only give advice on what the specs say and what I would do with them. CiVo is a no name could be good could be bad.

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

i think that if this is for light gaming at low settings at 1080p a gtx 750 ti is the best as it may get slightly bottlenecked but that cpu that cpu is very weak.
now a r7 240 is a very weak card and not that much more powerful than the gpu in your apu in the first place so unless its less than say 20$ its not at all worth it and even then i still would not get it.
now for your system if you want anything higher than the low or maybe medium settings on games a cpu and/or motherboard upgrade is a good idea
for cpu alone a amd a10-7860k or 7870k is the best as when being fm2+ WILL work with your board so they will be lots faster than what you have now allowing you to get a 750 ti or something faster
your other option which i dont really recomend at this point for your budget is get a skylake i3 or i5 system but i think a a10 system is better for you as you most likely dont want to spend a lot of money on a huge upgrade right now judging by the r7 240 your looking at
and lastly no matter what GET A NEW PSU.

How about an Nvidia Palit GeForce 210? Another friend of mine is offering it

 

[Epicness937]

i think that if this is for light gaming at low settings at 1080p a gtx 750 ti is the best as it may get slightly bottlenecked but that cpu that cpu is very weak.
now a r7 240 is a very weak card and not that much more powerful than the gpu in your apu in the first place so unless its less than say 20$ its not at all worth it and even then i still would not get it.
now for your system if you want anything higher than the low or maybe medium settings on games a cpu and/or motherboard upgrade is a good idea
for cpu alone a amd a10-7860k or 7870k is the best as when being fm2+ WILL work with your board so they will be lots faster than what you have now allowing you to get a 750 ti or something faster
your other option which i dont really recomend at this point for your budget is get a skylake i3 or i5 system but i think a a10 system is better for you as you most likely dont want to spend a lot of money on a huge upgrade right now judging by the r7 240 your looking at
and lastly no matter what GET A NEW PSU.

How about an Nvidia Palit GeForce 210? Another friend of mine is offering it

the gpu in your apu i think is faster
that card is REALLY bad unless its 5$ dont get it

 

[Viking2121]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

Then crossfire would be impossible right? As the AMD crossfire required another AMD Radeon graphics?

"According to AMD, the A4 series of APUs does not support dual graphics: you need an A6 at least. See http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations...aphics#desktop"

Source = http://forums.hexus.net/cpus/326401-dual-graphics-problem-amd-a4-6300-hd-6450-msi-a88xm-e35.html

The A4 can not be crossfired unfortunately, I would avoid the R7 240 if you can, its only marginally better than the HD6450 and that card can't really play anything at or above 720p, even at 720 some games will not even play on the R7 240.

I would suggest an R7 260/260x or an R7 360/360x, but I stand behind the GTX 750ti as it will perform much better than all of them options I mentioned. If you're really tight on a budget, don't be afraid to look around on eBay, just make sure the seller is trustworthy.

I wouldn't suggest getting anything stronger than them cards, them A4 APU's are pretty low end, unless you do plan on upgrading everything then get as fast of a video card that you can so you could use it in another build.

I did some research on my AMD A4-6300 APU...it says it does support dual graphics. I can still remember the box of the APU stating Dual Graphics support T_T

Source: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113349

Yeah, I see it says on Newegg, I looked at reviews and people's gameplay and I couldn;t find any that ran a dedicated card with the A4, Even on AMD's website says nothing about the A4 APU supporting dual graphics, Only the A10 and A7. So im not sure who to go by. Hate to get the card and have to pay shipping to ship it back ,the R7 240 is about the same speed as your APU's graphics.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/dual-graphics#desktop

 

[Epicness937]

To be completely honest, the 750ti only uses 90 or so watts, some of them don't even have a 6 pin connector, Nvidia states that 300watts for the entire system. I would say he would be fine to run a 750ti off that PSU, I don't recommend that you run the PSU for long, I'd get the 750ti stick it in and good to go and upgrade the PSU in the near future. But I would not get anything higher than a 750ti or a GTX 950.

Then crossfire would be impossible right? As the AMD crossfire required another AMD Radeon graphics?

"According to AMD, the A4 series of APUs does not support dual graphics: you need an A6 at least. See http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations...aphics#desktop"

Source = http://forums.hexus.net/cpus/326401-dual-graphics-problem-amd-a4-6300-hd-6450-msi-a88xm-e35.html

The A4 can not be crossfired unfortunately, I would avoid the R7 240 if you can, its only marginally better than the HD6450 and that card can't really play anything at or above 720p, even at 720 some games will not even play on the R7 240.

I would suggest an R7 260/260x or an R7 360/360x, but I stand behind the GTX 750ti as it will perform much better than all of them options I mentioned. If you're really tight on a budget, don't be afraid to look around on eBay, just make sure the seller is trustworthy.

I wouldn't suggest getting anything stronger than them cards, them A4 APU's are pretty low end, unless you do plan on upgrading everything then get as fast of a video card that you can so you could use it in another build.

I did some research on my AMD A4-6300 APU...it says it does support dual graphics. I can still remember the box of the APU stating Dual Graphics support T_T

Source: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113349

Yeah, I see it says on Newegg, I looked at reviews and people's gameplay and I couldn;t find any that ran a dedicated card with the A4, Even on AMD's website says nothing about the A4 APU supporting dual graphics, Only the A10 and A7. So im not sure who to go by. Hate to get the card and have to pay shipping to ship it back ,the R7 240 is about the same speed as your APU's graphics.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/dual-graphics#desktop

a single 750 ti would beat two r7 240s
at lowest get a gddr5 r7 250

 

[Viking2121]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

 

[Epicness937]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

under 5$ crossfire if not no

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

Yeah I get it. My setup is that bad. A local unknown PSU, a low-end AMD APU, and few knowledge about these things. Damn it haha! Thank you for the help everyone. I'd be sticking with my IGPU for a while. I decided now to buy an Nvidia 750 Ti. I found one from a local shop near my school which amazingly costs less than the R7 240

 

[Epicness937]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

Yeah I get it. My setup is that bad. A local unknown PSU, a low-end AMD APU, and few knowledge about these things. Damn it haha! Thank you for the help everyone. I'd be sticking with my IGPU for a while. I decided now to buy an Nvidia 750 Ti. I found one from a local shop near my school which amazingly costs less than the R7 240

wow thats a good deal buy them all and sell them new on ebay 😀

 

[Viking2121]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

Yeah I get it. My setup is that bad. A local unknown PSU, a low-end AMD APU, and few knowledge about these things. Damn it haha! Thank you for the help everyone. I'd be sticking with my IGPU for a while. I decided now to buy an Nvidia 750 Ti. I found one from a local shop near my school which amazingly costs less than the R7 240

Oh nice! I'd say that's a steal!

Your APU is fine for lower end gaming and even some more demanding games it will be alright if you had the 750ti, Just don't expect to play like Battlefield or COD on highest settings although I think it will do just fine on them games on lower settings.

The PSU is unknown quality, but even with a 750ti, If the label is correct, you should be alright. Though I strongly recommend you to get a good branded PSU as soon as you can. A weak PSU could possibly take other components out if it decides to go haywire. I hate to see ya with no PC or have to replace the entire thing because of a cheap PSU.

 

[NDDU Julius BSIT]

Yeah, a 750ti is pretty much 4 of them R7 240's, I would just avoid crossfire unless your getting the card for next to nothing, can return it if the card won't crossfire, I'm still finding mixed reviews and some retailers advertising that they support dual graphics, but I can't find anything to back that up, AMD don't even have any A4's listed that supports dual graphics unless I'm missing something.

Yeah I get it. My setup is that bad. A local unknown PSU, a low-end AMD APU, and few knowledge about these things. Damn it haha! Thank you for the help everyone. I'd be sticking with my IGPU for a while. I decided now to buy an Nvidia 750 Ti. I found one from a local shop near my school which amazingly costs less than the R7 240

Oh nice! I'd say that's a steal!

Your APU is fine for lower end gaming and even some more demanding games it will be alright if you had the 750ti, Just don't expect to play like Battlefield or COD on highest settings although I think it will do just fine on them games on lower settings.

The PSU is unknown quality, but even with a 750ti, If the label is correct, you should be alright. Though I strongly recommend you to get a good branded PSU as soon as you can. A weak PSU could possibly take other components out if it decides to go haywire. I hate to see ya with no PC or have to replace the entire thing because of a cheap PSU.

Yeah ikr... BTW I stand corrected. The GPU i found is an Asus NVidia GeForce GT 730 2gb ddr3 128bit