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lunbux

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Okay, I just got myself an Inno3D GT 440 1GB DDR5 to replace my old noisy Palit GT 220. All was good. No issues installing it.

It's idling at around 50C-60C (fan speed at 25-35%), which I find a bit high. My GT220 idles at around 40-50C. I don't know about the fan speed since it seems there's no sensor for it.

I live in a place where it gets a bit hot and no air-conditioning, but it's January and the weather is actually on the cold side.

Now, I'm wondering if I should be bothered that it reaches 80-90C with the fan speed stuck at 65-75% while playing a game and reaching full load? Is this new video card functioning as it should be and I simply need better air flow or something? And are video cards similar to car engines that need some time before they reach peak performance?

Feel free to laugh if I asked any stupid question. Haha.
 
If it doesnt go past 90degrees, then it is completely normal. Nvidia cards of that generation can safely run at 90 degrees. It's a bit hot, but not unsafe and completely normal. Video cards are not like car engines, and will often perform at their absolute best right out of the box, and slowly degrade over time (tis the way the silicon works)
 
Don't be too worried, it can handle temp's like that
It seems to me that you might have bad airflow into your system or something, those idles are unusually high
 
Yeah, I also find the temperatures a bit higher than what I wish it to be, but it can't be helped for now. I'm stuck with the stock fans for both CPU and GPU. I tried adding an exhaust fan at the back before but it didn't really help. I'll probably just leave my case open, even though I'm a bit uncomfortable seeing it that way. A mouse can just waltz in and chew on the wires. Haha.

Okay, so one more question: How long can I keep pushing my card at around 90C without worrying about shortening its lifetime too much?
Like others, I enjoy playing games for hours and hours. But I've also read that keeping the GPU at high temps for long periods of time isn't healthy for it, but what would be considered as "long periods of time?" Two hours? Four?
 
Umm...no...a card with proper cooling will be able to run at 100% for multiple hours on end... I am sorry to contest you here, but you are completely wrong on this issue, and i'm actually not sure if you are trying to be a troll or not based on how wrong you are.
 
Most overclockers need to just test their card's overclock for more than an hour just to ensure stability, let alone temp stability.

If your card is comfortably cooled, you will be tired of gaming before your hardware ever gives out.
 
Is my GPU overclocked?
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Argh. I now left the case open and I do get better temp control, but I still reach above 90C.

1.) Video card too powerful (my old GT220 don't reach this temp at all)
2.) Something's wrong with the heatsink/fan

Well, whatever the case is, I need to find a way to really really improve the cooling. God. More expenses. This year doesn't bode well for me.
 


Haha. Pessimism is just my nature.

I get really uncomfortable seeing the temp go above 90C because the max temp, according to the Nvidia site, is 98C. So, once it's above 90C, I think it's pretty easy to reach 98C and overheat. And that beats the whole point of me upgrading my video card.

Anyway, I'm gonna look for a small powerful fan I can put at the base for better air flow. I think it's the best choice I got.
 
For best results, see if you can get an intake blowing up from the bottom of the case (i havent read closely enough to see what case you have
Then get intakes in the front blowing towards the back, and have your exhausts blowing out the back and top
 


That's probably the next thing I should upgrade. Or I can just get a small powerful electric fan and point it to the GPU like what my friend did. That should cost me a lot less, although I do need to leave the case open and it will probably be a tad bit noisy.


EDIT:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but GT440 should be better than GT220, right? It's a bit bothering that it handles worse than 220. I play the same game with the same high settings FOR HOURS, but GT220 didn't reach 90C. With the GT440, after only a FEW MINUTES of playing the game, it easily reaches 90C and steadily goes up. So now, I had to use lower settings.
 
Honestly, if you want untroubled gaming, you need to pay at least $80-120 for a gpu. otherwise a lot of onboard processors will do just as well as excessively cheap cards. Next, you need to budget yourself, and upgrade accordingly. Perhaps you have a really slow processor that is so slow it is bottlenecking the 440?, and perhaps your power supply is not quite adequate enough for the higher power usage card you have upgraded too. It's difficult to really say what would be an end all solution for your problem, but the easiest is to make sure the gpu heatsink is properly secured onto the card, which will require securing the screws on the back a little more, OR perhaps the card you have has really crappy thermal paste application, in which case you could google a tutorial on how to replace the thermal paste and properly reinstall the heatsink on your card
 
Hmm... I'm not really much of a gamer. I have a core i3-530 processor. PSU is 600 watts. Securing the heatsink would probably be no problem, but applying thermal paste is not a good idea. I would void the warranty if I did that.

I checked some other forums and it seems it has something to do with the higher TDP and driver version so I downgraded and it did somehow show some results. Although I still need to improve the cooling IF I want to play games at max settings.

Oh well. It's really hard to pinpoint the issue with these things so I'll just do what I can do.
 
I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up, but have you thought of changing the thermal paste?
Or perhaps getting software to change the fan settings, and maybe setting the fan to run a bit faster when it gets hot?
 


Actually, those have been already mentioned. Changing thermal paste would require me to disassemble some parts and that would void the warranty, if I'm not mistaken. Maxing the fan speed when it reaches peak temps doesn't sound like a good idea to me because I've read that fans running at max speed shortens the lifespan as well.
 


Going above 90C isn't that all acceptable if I want to use this card for a few years. I'm not much of a gamer, but I do tend to play for hours and hours. That's why I'm thinking of ways to improve the cooling system and bring it down to around 80C.
 
open side panel. If the fan on your gpu is spinning, and responds to fan speed changes, but you still get really shitty temps.

1. clean the gpu with short bursts of compressed air to blow the dust out of the fins.
2. if this does not fix the temp, then it is a heatsinc contact issue.
a. tighten screws on the back of the gpu (primarily around where the gpu chip sits on the board). if this does not work
b. THERMAL PASTE REPLACEMENT!!!

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-440-channel/specifications

This is a card that is know to run HOT and there is only so much you can do about the temperatures without reducing the voltages and underclocking the card

the max safe temp of this card is 98 degrees celcius.
 
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