GTX 1060 6gb running poorly

[daracka]

I recently bought a new Asus Strix gtx 1060 6gb OC. Before upgrading to 1060 I was sporting a GTX 770, but within a margin of roughly 10 FPS in-game, i had no performance boost what so ever. I have tried everything from reinstalling graphics drivers, to reinstalling Windows. And this is consistant throughout every single game i have.

I am currently running:
I5 4690k overclocked to 4.6 Ghz
16 gb ram
GTX 1060 6gb
MSI z97s SLI Krait edition
SSD and HDD.

 

[Reynod]

The 1060 should be between 1.5 and 2 times faster at the same frame rates … if not then it is likely because other software is slowing down the cpu, or it is throttling due to thermal issues and might need the paste reapplied and the dust blown out of the cooler.

 

[daracka]

The 1060 should be between 1.5 and 2 times faster at the same frame rates … if not then it is likely because other software is slowing down the cpu, or it is throttling due to thermal issues and might need the paste reapplied and the dust blown out of the cooler.

I usually keep a pretty clean pc, and change thermal paste fairly often, and thermals isn't a problem. What i find most weird is that if i run Superposition benchmark, the 1060 is performing as expected, but as soon i start up a game, the GPU sort of cripples.

A good example is BFV. With my GTX 770 2GB, i was running a reasonably 50-60 fps on lowest settings, but on the GTX 1060 6gb my fps is increased by only around 5-10 fps.

I know its not a power problem. Im running an EVGa GQ750 power supply.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

What res are you playing at? Preusming 1080p with a 2gb 770?

TBH it doesn't seem that far off. BF V is a demanding enough game graphically. I've a 1060. At 1080p i tough between 75-90 fps on average with some drops to around the 50+ mark. It depends hugely on the maps (mulitplayer) though. Your I5 is still a decent CPU, but specially for BF V i'd say it's maxing out, and holding the GPU back ever so slightly. Although you have a nice OC, faster speeds doesn't prevent your 4c/4t CPU maxing out in game.

Check it by monitoring BF V in game,(MSI afterburner OSD is good for this) and if your CPU is hitting 100% usage, that could cause lower FPS.

 

[daracka]

What res are you playing at? Preusming 1080p with a 2gb 770?

TBH it doesn't seem that far off. BF V is a demanding enough game graphically. I've a 1060. At 1080p i tough between 75-90 fps on average with some drops to around the 50+ mark. It depends hugely on the maps (mulitplayer) though. Your I5 is still a decent CPU, but specially for BF V i'd say it's maxing out, and holding the GPU back ever so slightly. Although you have a nice OC, faster speeds doesn't prevent your 4c/4t CPU maxing out in game.

Check it by monitoring BF V in game,(MSI afterburner OSD is good for this) and if your CPU is hitting 100% usage, that could cause lower FPS.

My pc is maxed out in BFV on 1080p low, and i don't expect running more, but the lack of performance boost is very disapointing. I basically paid 400$ for 4GB extra VRAM and 10 fps.

 

[RobCrezz]

Have you tried any other games? BF5 is cpu heavy, so likely your cpu is bottlenecking in that game.

 

[daracka]

Have you tried any other games? BF5 is cpu heavy, so likely your cpu is bottlenecking in that game.

The problem is pretty much consistant throughout every game I have.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

What res are you playing at? Preusming 1080p with a 2gb 770?

TBH it doesn't seem that far off. BF V is a demanding enough game graphically. I've a 1060. At 1080p i tough between 75-90 fps on average with some drops to around the 50+ mark. It depends hugely on the maps (mulitplayer) though. Your I5 is still a decent CPU, but specially for BF V i'd say it's maxing out, and holding the GPU back ever so slightly. Although you have a nice OC, faster speeds doesn't prevent your 4c/4t CPU maxing out in game.

Check it by monitoring BF V in game,(MSI afterburner OSD is good for this) and if your CPU is hitting 100% usage, that could cause lower FPS.

My pc is maxed out in BFV on 1080p low, and i don't expect running more, but the lack of performance boost is very disapointing. I basically paid 400$ for 4GB extra VRAM and 10 fps.

That because the CPU is holding you back for that game. You could stick in an I7 4790k or something, which would give you an additional boost along with some more CPU grunt for higher settings. This will give your 1060 some room to breath, and both will last another year or two at 1080p 60hz gaming.

 

[daracka]

What res are you playing at? Preusming 1080p with a 2gb 770?

TBH it doesn't seem that far off. BF V is a demanding enough game graphically. I've a 1060. At 1080p i tough between 75-90 fps on average with some drops to around the 50+ mark. It depends hugely on the maps (mulitplayer) though. Your I5 is still a decent CPU, but specially for BF V i'd say it's maxing out, and holding the GPU back ever so slightly. Although you have a nice OC, faster speeds doesn't prevent your 4c/4t CPU maxing out in game.

Check it by monitoring BF V in game,(MSI afterburner OSD is good for this) and if your CPU is hitting 100% usage, that could cause lower FPS.

My pc is maxed out in BFV on 1080p low, and i don't expect running more, but the lack of performance boost is very disapointing. I basically paid 400$ for 4GB extra VRAM and 10 fps.

That because the CPU is holding you back for that game. You could stick in an I7 4790k or something, which would give you an additional boost along with some more CPU grunt for higher settings. This will give your 1060 some room to breath, and both will last another year or two at 1080p 60hz gaming.

I am in the process of upgrading soon, but i needed a faster gpu here and now, because my gtx770 was just too slow, so i chose a gtx 1060 as a temporary cheap gpu. but it has basically been a huge waste of 400$

 

[RobCrezz]

What temps is your CPU getting to? Can you check its not throttling the clock speed down in games? Is it getting 100% used?

edit: wth you paid $400 for a 1060??

 

[J_E_D_70]

Not as much performance as you’d like but not a waste. When you upgrade the cpu you’ll get the framerates you bought it for.

 

[daracka]

What temps is your CPU getting to? Can you check its not throttling the clock speed down in games? Is it getting 100% used?

edit: wtf you paid $400 for a 1060??

my cpu hits high 70*c but it never throttles.

And i live in Denmark, Hardware is expensive. An RTX 2080ti costs around 1700 USD here :-(

 

[RobCrezz]

so its holding 4.6ghz in games? Any of the cores maxed out?

 

[daracka]

so its holding 4.6ghz in games? Any of the cores maxed out?

Yea. in BFV I pretty much max out all cores, at 4.6ghz at high 70's low 80's celcius

 

[Onus]

The card is in the PCIe slot nearest the CPU? Any background processes running that might be eating your CPU cycles? Have you run a good anti-virus / anti-malware scan recently? MalwareBytes has a free version, and RogueKiller is also free.

 

[bignastyid]

so its holding 4.6ghz in games? Any of the cores maxed out?

Yea. in BFV I pretty much max out all cores, at 4.6ghz at high 70's low 80's celcius

This is why you are not seeing the full performance from the 1060. Whats the gpu usage look like.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I'd find a used 4790k, drop the same OC on it you currently have, if your cooling is good enough to support that, and call it good for now unless you're willing to upgrade the whole platform. You can usually find used Haswell and Haswell refresh i7's on Ebay for around 130-150 dollars, and unlike graphics cards they are a lot more likely to not have problems but you still want to look only at very reputable sellers.

 

[daracka]

So, I might have found out why I was having this issue.

My OC, which were stabile back when i had my GTX 770, were messing with my 1060. I disabled my OC on my CPU, and instantly, I was experiencing a boost in performance.

So somehow, my OC was messing with my new GPU.

 

[Darkbreeze]

You may have a power supply issue. It's possible that your OC was taking the power draw above the level it could sustain, or possibly is a poor quality model with high ripple that was increased by the OC and affecting the graphics card.

What is the model of your power supply and how long has it been in service? Could also be a board issue. There were many instances of problems when overclocking, and actually even when not, on many of the early Krait boards.

 

[daracka]

You may have a power supply issue. It's possible that your OC was taking the power draw above the level it could sustain, or possibly is a poor quality model with high ripple that was increased by the OC and affecting the graphics card.

What is the model of your power supply and how long has it been in service? Could also be a board issue. There were many instances of problems when overclocking, and actually even when not, on many of the early Krait boards.

I have an EVGA GQ750 80+ Gold and its around a year and 2 months old. So i'm very positive that my power supply is not the problem. I think that it might be the mobo. It's pretty old. been holding up for around 4 and a half years if i remember correctly.

Also, I dont think that with a 750W power supply, the OC was taking the power draw above the maximum level. Especially when the GTX 770 has a significant higher powerdraw than the 1060. And my OC was "created" and was stable with the 770

 

[cookiemania66]

That PSU is rated for 60+A on the 12V rail which is more then 700Watt. I dont think that you draw too much power with your CPU and GPU. I use 6600k @4,9Ghz and a GTX 1070ti with a Corsir SF600 and its fine.

Did you check Windows Energie saving features?

 

[Darkbreeze]

I agree, it's very, very doubtful that it's a power supply issue, however, for the sake of accuracy, let's have an understanding that neither the model nor the age of any power supply in question has any bearing on whether or not there COULD be a power supply issue. I've seen brand new out of the box Seasonic Titanium Ultra 850w units, among a LOT of other very good units, have issues from day one. So, it CAN still be a power supply issue, in ANY case where there is EVER a problem on ANY system, but I'd agree that it's a lot less likely than your four year old motherboard which is what I wanted to initially go after anyhow but I always have to ask about the power supply because we see SO many issues that are power supply related here, and in our daily workings, that at first wouldn't seem to be related.

Energy saving features have little to nothing to do with an overclock causing issues that removing the overclock resolves. It's a lot more likely to be related to an inherent problem on the board on the interconnect between the PCI circuit and power regulation components, or possibly just the power regulation components (VRMs) themselves. Could also be a capacitor issue, so visually check for any bulging or leaking capacitors. There won't always be visual evidence, but often there will be.

As I mentioned earlier, when those Z97 Krait boards first came out, I and I'm sure others as well, saw an unusually high number of them with problems on this forum, and none of them seemed to be exactly the same, but they were all issues that a replacement or different board seemed to resolve, so the assumption would be something sub-par in the quality control or inherent design of that specific model on that specific chipset, as I have not seen the same problem on any other Gen or chipset version when it comes to the Krait model boards.

And it may not be related to the model at all. It may simply be a defect in general or fatigue due to the age of the board and the fact that it's been riding an overclock for a while now when it wasn't a particularly great overclocking board to start with.

 

[Onus]

If your overclock included the BCLK, it would have increased the PCIe buss also; the standard there is 100MHz, and some cards are really picky about going over that. If you overclock again, try it with just the multiplier on your Z97.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yes, there is no need to mess with anything other than the multiplier and the voltage when overclocking on Z97, or anything newer than that really. Since the system clock was uncoupled from the CPU multiplier, there is absolutely no reason as it generally just causes issues.