GTX 1070 TERRIBLE FPS in Rust, Unturned, etc.!

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I've been having this issue for quite a while and I don't know quite what's going on. Here's what I have in my PC before I explain:

Processor: AMD FX-8350

CPU Liquid Cooler: Kraken X61

RAM: x2 8Gb Kingston DDR3

System: Windows 10 Pro x64

Case: NZXT Phantom 820

Graphics card: ASUS STRIX GTX 1070

MotherBoard: MSI 970 GAMING

SSD: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250Gb

Primary Drive: WD Black 2Tb

Secondary Drive: WD Blue 500Gb

Anyways, I've been getting on average about 5-20 fps on Rust with the more than common frame-drops to 0 and the occasional 60 fps when looking at a wall deep inside my base. As you can see, I have a GTX 1070 and people with the 1060 and below have better fps than me. I even had BETTER fps when I was using my GTX 750! This also applies to other games as well. Even Unturned runs between 20-35 fps and about 45-60 when I'm underwater at the corner of the map on bare minimum settings and that game has no texturing to it at all. From what I have in my system, it really doesn't make sense to me. Recently, I just bought an SSD and a liquid cooler to see if that would solve any problems. The SSD was inserted into my PC and I did a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro x64 as well as my more load intensive games are loaded on there. The SSD DEFINITELY helped with loading times and startup time, but the cooler didn't help with preformance. As of now, the only things on my PC is Chrome, Steam, and Discord. Yes, on Chrome and Discord the GPU Acceleration is turned off and Chrome is closed through task manager when I'm playing. I have also gone and set my power options to "Performance", downloaded the driver manually from the NVidia website (Not GeForce experience), and went to NVidia control panel and changed the Rust and Global Settings to "Prefer Performance" as well as a couple other things in there in hopes op upping my fps. Also when I'm playing, I use GPU Tweak to OC my Processor and CAM to set my cooler to "Performance Mode". After all of that AND testing all different kinds of settings (Custom High, Medium, and everything at Low) the fps is still terrible. What is going on? Thanks in advance. :)
 
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If a game uses only 1 core and you have 8 a bottleneck would be 12,5% CPU usage (100/8), if the game utilises 3 cores then you would see 37,5% CPU usage. Those are bottlenecks. It doesn't have to be at 100% to be a bottleneck.
But I am starting to think that your problem is thermal throttling. Please tell us what are your temps while idle and while gaming, CPU and GPU please. Use MSI afterburner.
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Yes I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers. And it's kind of what?
 
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I'm only playing rust. My upload speed is barely 1megaByte/s so I can't stream even if I tried.
 
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My PSU: http://www.ebay.com/itm/APEVIA-ATX-AS680W-BL-680W-ATX12V-EPS12V-SLI-Ready-Power-Supply-/381043280964?hash=item58b7f30c44

Also, I ran MSI After burner and looked at my usage from my GPU and CPU from the OSD and I haven't seen the CPU go above 55% usage and the GPU goes between 5-40%. Is that normal? Why is one of either my GPU and CPU not at 100%? That would mean one is bottle necking the other but if I'm getting this frame problem, why isn't more of it being used?
P.S. I also noticed that whenever the frames drop, my GPU usage goes down to 1%. Should that happen?
 
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If a game uses only 1 core and you have 8 a bottleneck would be 12,5% CPU usage (100/8), if the game utilises 3 cores then you would see 37,5% CPU usage. Those are bottlenecks. It doesn't have to be at 100% to be a bottleneck.
But I am starting to think that your problem is thermal throttling. Please tell us what are your temps while idle and while gaming, CPU and GPU please. Use MSI afterburner.
 
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Temps/usage while IDLE:https://gyazo.com/96e5ff832613f38877dab1dade444ba8
Temps/usage while GAMING: https://gyazo.com/e299591208ec2f45b1e2b70dd71bd9cd
Anything out of the ordinary?
 
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odd readings, the cpu is indeed doing very little

what is the entire list of parts composing your pc, this correct?

Processor: AMD FX-8350

CPU Liquid Cooler: Kraken X61

RAM: x2 8Gb Kingston DDR3

System: Windows 10 Pro x64

Case: NZXT Phantom 820

Graphics card: ASUS STRIX GTX 1070

MotherBoard: MSI 970 GAMING

SSD: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250Gb

Primary Drive: WD Black 2Tb

Secondary Drive: WD Blue 500Gb

no other card in the pci express connectors on that mainboard?
 
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Just the GTX 1070 correct.
 
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For giggles... Open up your task manager, go to performance, go to CPU. Leave that running. Go play rust until you get a framerate drop, and then check the clock speed. What is it running at? Alternatively you could use HWmonitor to do the same thing. Both will report your clock speed.
 
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Did you see my reply?
 
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I did see your reply and those numbers seem fine to me. I searched systems with your CPU and GPU and had similar results.
The temps of your CPU might be a false reading as it is very unlikely to be that low under load.
I am boggled and can't think what may be wrong.
Try one more thing. Run the game with only 1 stick of RAM and also swap the slots. If you have them in the 1st and 3rd slot, put on 2nd and 4th then try only one in the 2nd and afterwards only 1 in the 4th.
 
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I have just seemed to find the solution to the Rust FPS issue. I used the OSD of AfterBurner and selected the CPU usage of all the cored of the "8 core" CPU I have. It was showing that the first core had usage percentages above 50% always and the rest were usually below 10% and 20% usage. I ended up going into the launch properties of Rust and added this line of text "-USEALLAVAILABLECORES". Although the first core still has the majority of the CPU usage, the other cores are now running at higher percentages (25%-35%) and my FPS is now from below 20 to around 30-50. That line of code in the launch options definitely helped and if my CPU really is bottle-necking my GPU, then I suppose that is the best I am going to get. I'll also add that I get better FPS on beautiful than fastest or fast preset settings... Weird. Any thoughts? Also, I guess I'm going to have to invest into a new CPU then if that's the case. Do you reccommend an AMD Ryzen 1800x or i7 7700k?Thanks.
 
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The CPUs that are currently coming from Intel and AMD are (from Intel) their extreme series of CPUs which will all require an x299 motherboard, which is going to run you more money than a z chipset. As for AMD--the Threadripper lineup is on the horizon... however it is also not consumer. Every single CPU in that lineup has at least 10 cores (although those are from leaked spec sheets that should absolutely be taken with a grain of salt).

No new consumer CPUs are on the way--might as well pull the trigger on either an i5 or i7 if it's purely for gaming.
 
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