GTX 460 or 5870

[MadCatz900]

GTX 460

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-evga-gtx-460-sc-super-3800mhz-gddr5-gpu-763mhz-shaderclock-1526mhz-336-cores-dvi-i-minihdmi


5870

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-hd-5870-pci-e-21-4800mhz-gddr5-gpu-850mhz-1600cores-dp-dvi-hdmi-aliens-vs-predator


Im running an i5 760 with 6gb ram and an 8800GTS,which graphics card do you think will be a better purchase considering price and performance and is it really worth upgrading from an 8800GTS?


Thanks.

 

[megamanx00]

The 5870. Get it, game, be happy.

 

[renz496]

GTX 460

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-evga-gtx-460-sc-super-3800mhz-gddr5-gpu-763mhz-shaderclock-1526mhz-336-cores-dvi-i-minihdmi


5870

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-hd-5870-pci-e-21-4800mhz-gddr5-gpu-850mhz-1600cores-dp-dvi-hdmi-aliens-vs-predator


Im running an i5 760 with 6gb ram and an 8800GTS,which graphics card do you think will be a better purchase considering price and performance and is it really worth upgrading from an 8800GTS?


Thanks.

off topic. did you use 2 sticks 3GB RAM or 3 sticks 2GB RAM? btw performance wise 5870 is better than 460. it all depends on how much you want to spend on a card

 

[MadCatz900]

off topic. did you use 2 sticks 3GB RAM or 3 sticks 2GB RAM? btw performance wise 5870 is better than 460. it all depends on how much you want to spend on a card

I use 3 2gb sticks ram.

Thanks for all the replies so far but is there any reason i shouldnt buy http://www.scan.co.uk/products/768mb-asus-gtx-460-top-3680mhz-gddr5-gpu-700mhz-shader-clock-1400mhz-336-cores-2xdl-dvi-mhdmi its a decent price and i dont want to spend a lot of money, but then if its not worth it i wont want to buy it either.

Thanks.

 

[dalauder]

The 768MB GTX460 is noticeably worse. The GTX 5870 is better than every other card mentioned here (including the 470) and often by a wide margin. Keep your 8800 and use it to run PhysX while you game with the Radeon 5870.

Also, 2x2GB sticks and 4x2GB sticks are both better than 3x2GB sticks because they're dual channel.

 

[asteldian]

My preference is actually the GTX 560. Crazy I know, but I am Nvidia biased. Also, from what I saw in a number of reviews, the 560 seemed to regualrly match or beat the 5870 for minimum FPS. Also, if you are an MMOer then it looks like the 560 was a clear winner.

But the sensible me would probably go with the 5870

 

[renz496]

for the RAM part it is better for you to run it with 2x2GB or 4x2GB ram. other than that you will not be able to use dual channel mode. as for the card you may want to make sure what games you're playing. some games favor nvidia and vice versa. this is for you:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti/27.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_460_DirectCu/28.html

 

[Kkkk1]

For a single card setup i'd go 5870, however if you plan on adding another at a later date the 460sli actually beats the 5870xfire strangely. However bear in mind that I think the 460 is slightly stronger in DX11.

 

[MadCatz900]

From what i can see on anandtech there is only a 20fps difference between the 460 768mb and 560ti

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/315?vs=330

Is it really worth an extra £90 for that?

Thanks

 

[Kkkk1]

From what i can see on anandtech there is only a 20fps difference between the 460 768mb and 560ti

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/315?vs=330

Is it really worth an extra £90 for that?

Thanks

Well 20fps is quite a lot in my book, that says to me it's significantly more powerful. So the obvious answer is if you've got the extra £90 go get the 560.

 

[Kkkk1]

Just to reply to my own post when I stated the 460 is better in DX11 than a 5870....
erm no it isn't, I just checked the benches and the 5870 is 15 - 20 fps faster. Sorry the the inaccuracy.

 

[dalauder]

My preference is actually the GTX 560. Crazy I know, but I am Nvidia biased. Also, from what I saw in a number of reviews, the 560 seemed to regualrly match or beat the 5870 for minimum FPS. Also, if you are an MMOer then it looks like the 560 was a clear winner.

But the sensible me would probably go with the 5870

Minimum maybe, but the 5870 clearly wins out on Average frame rates. But if you exclusively play TWIMTBP titles, the 560 Ti has it beat.

 

[17seconds]

The Achille's Heel of the 5800 series is poor DirectX 11 tesselation performance, whereas the GTX460 is better and also has PhysX.

 

[dalauder]

That's true. IF something uses tessellation to the degree benchmarks do, NVidia cards do MUCH better. But we have yet to see many games favor NVidia cards considerably, if at all (outside of select TWIMTBP titles). The 5870 still wins on price/performance I think.

Then again, I have a GTX 470 in case tessellation ends up being big.

 

[dalauder]

The performance battles for Radeon/NVidia were supposed to be:
5830/460
5850/470
5870/480

Obviously NVidia won every one of these battles from a performance standpoint. But I don't think the GTX460 beats a 5870 when the prices are comparable.

 

[yesitsmario]

5870 is definitely better than the 460.

 

[Kkkk1]

I admit the ATi cards are weaker at Tesselation but the bechmarks say the 5870 performs much better than the GTX460 in DX11. Not my opinion just a fact.

 

[asteldian]

Minimum maybe, but the 5870 clearly wins out on Average frame rates. But if you exclusively play TWIMTBP titles, the 560 Ti has it beat.

As long as I have over 30fps for games I am happy, personally min FPS is most important to me because average can hide some troublesome moments if a card at times is dropping significantly below 30 at times