[SOLVED] GTX 560Ti beating rx 580

[JakubFindra]

My old GTX 560Ti the 1GB version is running GTA V worse, but more stable than my rx 580, my rx580 has a problem, when gaming the signal from the gpu to monitor cuts of and the monitor says check cable connection and then goes to sleep mode, the gtx 560 Ti from 2011 doesnt have such problem, could it be the gpu or psu or motherboard?

 

[rgd1101]

on the same system? same resolution?

 

[JakubFindra]

on the same system? same resolution?

jep

 

[JakubFindra]

jep

r7 2700 4GHz
16gb 3200mhz ram
rx 580 1450mhz/gtx 560Ti 950mhz
FSP hyper 600 80plus

 

[King_V]

While the RX580 only consumes about 15W or so more power than the GTX 560Ti, I would suspect the power supply is a problem.

From this posting:

FSP is a PSU manufacturer like Seasonic and Super Flower, although not as well trusted based on historical performance. They have some seriously poor quality trash models, series and platforms, but also some very good stuff as well. Much as with Be Quiet!, you must be VERY careful which series or even which models within a specific series in some cases, that you consider. Unless you can find a review of a specific model, I'd avoid it. Currently the FSP Hydro G and Hydro X units are pretty good.

Pretty much universally, the FSP Hyper models should be avoided as they are low quality garbage.

That link also has details on good PSUs vs bad ones.

 

[JakubFindra]

While the RX580 only consumes about 15W or so more power than the GTX 560Ti, I would suspect the power supply is a problem.

From this posting:


That link also has details on good PSUs vs bad ones.

i saw 150w son the gpu power, should i buy seasonic s12ll 620w for system like this?

 

[King_V]

That PSU might be okay since you're running a pre-Haswell system. <---- EDIT: sorry, you're running an R7 2700, somehow I read that as i7 2700.

However, given the way modern systems and components draw power, plus one or two things of what I've read about how the RX 580 might have sudden spikes, I'd be more comfortable recommending a Seasonic FOCUS model. With the Focus, though, 550W would be plenty.

 

[mdd1963]

Only way that could ever happen is with botched OS/GPU driver install, or inadequate PSU/mainboard power to GPU after upgrade...(the RX580 might draw more power thru PCI-e slot than some older mainboards can handle, leading to lockups, reboots, or slowdowns)

Nuke and pave to at least rule out the easy 'botched OS/driver' possibilities!

 

[JakubFindra]

Only way that could ever happen is with botched OS/GPU driver install, or inadequate PSU/mainboard power to GPU after upgrade...(the RX580 might draw more power thru PCI-e slot than some older mainboards can handle, leading to lockups, reboots, or slowdowns)

Nuke and pave to at least rule out the easy 'botched OS/driver' possibilities!

i mean its MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX

 

[JakubFindra]

Only way that could ever happen is with botched OS/GPU driver install, or inadequate PSU/mainboard power to GPU after upgrade...(the RX580 might draw more power thru PCI-e slot than some older mainboards can handle, leading to lockups, reboots, or slowdowns)

Nuke and pave to at least rule out the easy 'botched OS/driver' possibilities!

maybe the ram, i had problem, when i ran the cinebench, the pc just shut down and after lowering the ram speed to 2400mhz it was OK, now running on 3200mhz and it si happening, the same ram, just other board

 

[King_V]

(the RX580 might draw more power thru PCI-e slot than some older mainboards can handle)

No. The whole card only draws about 15W more than the existing card. And since the brief issues with the RX 400 series, AMD has been very careful to not try to max out PCIe slot power draw. The only card I've seen do that since then is the 3GB version of the GTX 1050.

Now that I've realized my mistake, and that you're running a Ryzen 7 2700 (I misread as i7 2700) and B450 motherboard, I am definitely alarmed about the PSU you're running. Even if it is not the reason for your problem, throw out that FSP Hyper and get one of the following (550W will be sufficient)

• Seasonic FOCUS
• Seasonic Prime
• Corsair TX
• Corsair RM
• Corsair HX
• Corsair AX

You can probably use a Corsair CX (2017) or a Corsair Vengeance if none of the others are available to you, but at that point, it MIGHT be better to jump up to a 650W unit.

 

[JakubFindra]

No. The whole card only draws about 15W more than the existing card. And since the brief issues with the RX 400 series, AMD has been very careful to not try to max out PCIe slot power draw. The only card I've seen do that since then is the 3GB version of the GTX 1050.

Now that I've realized my mistake, and that you're running a Ryzen 7 2700 (I misread as i7 2700) and B450 motherboard, I am definitely alarmed about the PSU you're running. Even if it is not the reason for your problem, throw out that FSP Hyper and get one of the following (550W will be sufficient)

• Seasonic FOCUS
• Seasonic Prime
• Corsair TX
• Corsair RM
• Corsair HX
• Corsair AX

You can probably use a Corsair CX (2017) or a Corsair Vengeance if none of the others are available to you, but at that point, it MIGHT be better to jump up to a 650W unit.

when i set the CPU to 3.9GHz at auto voltage, it works just fine, maybe it is, as you say the PSU, i found the Seasonic core GM 650W 80plus gold for around 75€ on german amazon

 

[JakubFindra]

No. The whole card only draws about 15W more than the existing card. And since the brief issues with the RX 400 series, AMD has been very careful to not try to max out PCIe slot power draw. The only card I've seen do that since then is the 3GB version of the GTX 1050.

Now that I've realized my mistake, and that you're running a Ryzen 7 2700 (I misread as i7 2700) and B450 motherboard, I am definitely alarmed about the PSU you're running. Even if it is not the reason for your problem, throw out that FSP Hyper and get one of the following (550W will be sufficient)

• Seasonic FOCUS
• Seasonic Prime
• Corsair TX
• Corsair RM
• Corsair HX
• Corsair AX

You can probably use a Corsair CX (2017) or a Corsair Vengeance if none of the others are available to you, but at that point, it MIGHT be better to jump up to a 650W unit.

and is it possible to find something that will run my pc under 80€

 

[King_V]

when i set the CPU to 3.9GHz at auto voltage, it works just fine, maybe it is, as you say the PSU, i found the Seasonic core GM 650W 80plus gold for around 75€ on german amazon

I don't know for sure - Seasonic Focus and Prime are very good. Core is a new one, and I haven't seen any reviews yet.

@jonnyguru , @Darkbreeze - do you guys perchance have any info on it?

Other than that, using German PCPartPicker, this is a good model, and under 80€ - but, that said, the Power Supply is such a vitally important component, both for protecting your other components, and for safety. If it turns out you have to spend more, it is WELL WORTH doing so.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product...d-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020133-na

 

[John Chesterfield]

Pretty sure Core is just a rebrand of the focus Gold Plus series, so they'll be good.

 

[King_V]

Pretty sure Core is just a rebrand of the focus Gold Plus series, so they'll be good.

Based on Seasonic's website, it seems like Core is a new line. Maybe slightly more budget oriented(?), but hopefully with the quality level of their Focus and Prime models.

The new branding for Focus is:

 

[JakubFindra]

Based on Seasonic's website, it seems like Core is a new line. Maybe slightly more budget oriented(?), but hopefully with the quality level of their Focus and Prime models.

The new branding for Focus is:

i saw at my cpu speed 4GHz drawing 134W so the psu is clearly an issue, or is it?

 

[JakubFindra]

when i set the CPU to 3.9GHz at auto voltage, it works just fine, maybe it is, as you say the PSU, i found the Seasonic core GM 650W 80plus gold for around 75€ on german amazon

my CPU ryzen 7 2700 draws 134W at full load on cinebench and it crashes my system, so ill try other psu