GTX 660ti vs GTX 670

dan_kwc2000

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Hello,

I am considering upgrading my current graphics card and case to the Coolermaster HAF X. However, I am in a dilema of choosing between the GTX 660ti and the 670.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Sometime between September and December.

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming such as BF3, Skyrim.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: XFX GTX 260 core 216, Coolermaster RealPower 700W Modular

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: i7 2600K OC 4.5Ghz, Sabertooth P67, Corsair Vengence 2x4Gb 1600Mhz

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Dabs.com, Ebuyer.com, Novatech.co.uk

PARTS PREFERENCES: Asus

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050,

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I will be running my games at 1680x1050 at high settings. So I am considering which card would be best suited for my budget around £250-£350. Your opinions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

GTX 660ti from Novatech:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx660tikeplerseries/Asus/GTX660TI-DC2O-2GD5.html#utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=products

or the GTX670 from Dabs:
http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-geforce-gtx-670-1137mhz-2gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-directcu-ii-top-83DD.html?refs=481840000-50626&src=3
 
This isn't a response to your question, but I'd recommend considering previous generation cards if by "running my games at 1680x1050 at high settings" you literally mean "settings on high" as opposed to "on the highest settings".

The reason I say this is that I also own a 1680x1050 monitor, but it's powered by an ASUS 5850 (yes, the GSOD card, but I've never had problems with it, and it's going for as little as $100 used on ebay, so I imagine you might be able to find a similar deal), and I play BF3 on "High" rather than "Ultra" settings, with frame rates generally in the 50s & 60s, rarely dipping into the 40s. My CPU is worse than yours, to boot.

My roommate plays a lot of Skyrim on his GTX 260; is there a particular reason you're looking to upgrade _now_ instead of in six months? Are you going to greatly value the move up to Ultra settings in your games?

In any case, I'd recommend jumping to the 270 if you're not going to consider a previous gen card. Everything I've read indicates that the 260Ti is going to have problems with high levels of detail, due to its (relatively) low memory bandwidth. I'm not an expert myself, though, so take that grain of salt.
 
For your resolution on high settings, I would recommend something like a 550ti. If you are going to be upgrading to higher resolution and going for max settings, then a 670 wouldn't be a bad choice.
 
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No it cannot. No way.

As for the OP: with GTX 660 Ti/670 you will be able to max all games of today and most games of next few years. If you can afford GTX 670, it will last you longer due to wider GPU bus width. Thing is, when buying a graphics card you should always try to get the best one you can, because it will mean you'll have better performance longer and it will delay the time you have to upgrade again.
 


That's partially true... but with SLI abilities on almsot all of the motherboards now, you'd be better off going with one thats got the best price to performance ratio for a specific monitor resolution...

But ya. with a GTX 660 TI OCed, you can definitely approach the GTX 670 performance and max out most games at that resolution at 60+ fps with 16xAA/AF and maybe with tesselation on. (especially memory oc due to the reduced bus bandwidth.)

Unless the OP's going to upgrade to a 1920x1080 monitor or bigger, go with the 660 TI.

Actually, I'd suggest going with the 7950 (price drop this week) which costs $320 and can outperform/overclock the 660 ti for similar price.

Nevermind. go with the GTX 660 TI if you're going to be playing BF3 mostly since it works better on nvidia cards.
 
Thank you for your opinions. I haven't owned an AMD card and I feel more familiar with Nvidia. I don't see myself upgrading my Asus 21" 1680x1050 monitor anytime soon. I am tempted to go with the Asus 660ti OC.
 
660ti is too much power for that resolution.

People posting that it 'maybe' maxes games that that resolution are insane. It maxes games at 1980x1200 and that's over 25% more pixels.

If you're really not considering the older generation of cards ( gtx 560TI 448 core would max most every game) then at least wait for the 660 or 645 to release and check them out.

the 660TI is an okay card but you're paying a lot of money for more card then you'll be able to use at 1680x1050. Then again you purchased a i7-2600k for gaming so maybe you're just very wealthy and not very bright. More money for the rest of us I suppose.
 


No, GTX 560 Ti 448 would not max all games. Far from it. Please stop spreading false information.
 
Crysis warhead is 4 year old game.

Metro at 60 fps was tested with medium settings (high is medium in that game).
Here's a realistic benchmark:
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It will not max out Battlefield 3 or Witcher 2 either.

GTX 660 Ti has almost double performance of GTX 560 Ti 448 and costs only a bit more. It will max out all games and why shouldn't be buy it? It will last him much longer as well.
 



Here's a pretty fair (but slightly outdated) review of the 560 TI 448.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget


Pretty much near-max settings scores 62.4fps Crysis:Warhead with a minimum fps of 43.1 . Definitely solid scores.

Metro 2033 scores 63.5fps.

BFBC2 does not include a result at his resolution but scores a 72.7 at 1080p.


Because basically any fps over 60 doesn't really matter I'd call that just about maxed. Drop a few sliders and you'll definitely get 60+ fps on just about anything.

No it won't max every game forever but it'll just about max most games on the market and play on high -> very high settings in the future.



I'll coincide that the GTX 560ti does not max every game but for the most part it comes fairly close. I suppose the real disappointment is that it's only ~$65 cheaper AR (~$234 after rebate). At this time you can actually get a gtx 570 at the same price after rebate. (prices on newegg.com)

Anyways, I'd really consider both cards better buys until the 660ti comes down a notch in price. I think it is over priced for what it is, especially versus AMD offerings.. but i'll be watching closely for the gtx 660
 


The thing is that if he gets a 660 ti, he won't have to buy a graphics card for the next 3 years and still be able to max out everything that comes along whereas the 560 ti will definitely get outdated in like 2 years.
 
Well in that case I change my recommendation to watch for the GTX 660 or consider the GTX 570.

It's a bit weaker than the 660ti but the price is the same as a 550ti 448 core -- and in this case I don't think you'll have any disputable benchmarks at your resolution.

If you really want a 660ti then go for it. I'm just angry that they're kind of lack luster for the price versus AMD offerings. I suppose (this struck me now) if you game enough then the difference in power draw makes the 660ti a better buy (vs 570) anyways.

If I had to buy one now I'd go with the 660ti. Personally I'm still watching closely for the 660
 



I recently just bought a 660 ti after doing extensive research comparing it to both AMD models and the 670. The 660 ti is one of the best "bang for your buck" cards out there and rivals the 670 and 680 in a number of instances. Sure its down sized and some may say its just limited, but it gets the job done in benchmark reviews. At $300 USD is 100 less than the 670 and blows the AMD card in that range out of the water. It utilizes the kepler technology and only draws 150 watts. No brainer for me, hopes this helps.

 
Lack luster? They are priced below HD 7950 but perform similarly, plus they come with nvidia only bonuses such as PhysX (did you see Borderlands 2 preview? It looks insanely nice), TXAA, FXAA, Adaptive Vsync.
 
For that resolution it seems stupid to mee to spend the extra 100 quid when the 660ti will max out anything at that resolution and will do for atleast 2-3 years. They are cooler and require less power than the 670 aswell (may not be 100% true but ive read it on a few websites).

I have a 660ti and although i only had it since yesterday i think its a great card.
 
If you can afford a 660 Ti or 670, then by all means get it. The games you want to play are demanding and you have a high performance system. In fact, it would be a shame to waste your system on a lesser video card. I recommend you get the most card you can afford. In terms of the two you have linked, that Asus GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP is just about the best video card money can buy right now, all things considered.

And yes, it's totally worth it to go with a high-end GPU at your resolution.

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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/28.html

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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/28.html
 
If you're going to mod skyrim and wanting to play on max I suggest you get the 670. I have a MSI 670 PE and play skyrim maxed out but added just one ENB mod on it recently, and my avg drops to 40-45 fps. I'm guessing with a 660ti it'll be in the 30's? Not horrible but than consider other mods you'll probably wanting to add. btw i'm playing on 1080 so you'll probably get better fps, but still something to consider.
 
Are you sure Sunius?

Look at the Tom's hardware review. It puts the GTX 660 ti within ~5 of the 7870 (can swing to + or - depending on the game).

This would all be well except the 7870 is $229 AR while the GTX 660 ti is $299. Add that AMD is releasing a revision and it's kind of a really lackluster comparison.

The GTX 660 Ti is not a bad card but I for one won't be stepping up until the price is in line. I may even consider just cross firing my old card or selling it to buy a 7870.
 
Tom's hardware tested only on one resolution and games that mostly favours AMD. Check other site reviews, for example, techpowerup tested 20, when tom's hardware was at 6 or 7 (can't remember). You'll see that at that resolution Nvidia has got an edge.