Gtx 670sli or amd 7950 crossfire

[stanistheman]

7950 is non refrence http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1387&products_id=21083

and the 670 is reference http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1387&products_id=21083

The prices are

crossfire 7950s=618
sli 670s= 778

my system i plan on gettiing is i7 3770k, ocz zt 1250w storm styrker case 8gb ram asrock extreme 4 mobo

 

[popatim]

i always go with a reference card so I can use reference drivers and not wait for a manufacturer to post new ones.

 

[unksol]

1250W is way too much for a PSU. 1000W would be more reasonable. You also don't need SLI/Crossfire at 1080p, only for highres. I7 doesn't make much sense for gaming either.

The 7950s will be very close or better at 1080p, are more future proof, and better at high res. The 670s certainly aren't worth the price difference.

Two of these 7970s will best the 670s pretty much every time, and usually 680s too, and cost 720

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

Too bad you missed the three free games by a few days.

 

[unksol]

i always go with a reference card so I can use reference drivers and not wait for a manufacturer to post new ones.

Oh lord. Dude. ALL desktop GPUs use the stock nvidia/AMD driver packages. Manufactures DO NOT roll their own, and you should always get the newest drivers from AMD/nvidia directly. Never what's on the disc or card makers site.

Non reference cards always have some upgrade or feature, better cooling, VRMs, faster clocks, memory, chip binning. But the CHIP is identical to every other.card.and the drivers are the EXACT SAME

 

[stanistheman]

im running at 2560x1440. and here in aus 1000w is the same price as the 1250w and the 7970 is 400 so 7970s crossfire= 800, i guess i can go i5 its 90dollars less

 

[unksol]

im running at 2560x1440. and here in aus 1000w is the same price as the 1250w and the 7970 is 400 so 7970s crossfire= 800, i guess i can go i5 its 90dollars less

The ones I linked were $360 each. Maybe you can't get them. Just another option. At $800 still a better choice than 670s, but for $180 more than the 7950s id stick with 7950s

Edit: glossed over the Australia part sorry. but yea, at those prices I wouldn't even consider a 670, and I don't think there's a 30% improvement from 7950s to 7970s to justify the higher price

 

[stanistheman]

The only thing im worried is about the 7950/70 crossfire drivers are they ok?

 

[hytecgowthaman]

http://www.hwcompare.com/12506/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeon-hd-7950-3gb/
http://www.hwcompare.com/12507/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeon-hd-7950/

 

[unksol]

http://www.hwcompare.com/12506/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeon-hd-7950-3gb/
http://www.hwcompare.com/12507/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeon-hd-7950/

LOL. "hwcompare" is theoretical based on individual stats on reference cards. It has nothing to do with real life. Or the card as a whole. Case in point, a higher theoretical pixel rate doesnt mean squat when the memory bandwidth on the 670 cant keep up at high res. Why it says the 7950 is much faster in GENERAL.

I don't think I have EVER seen anyone actually try and site hwcompare. That was good for a laugh.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

i always go with a reference card so I can use reference drivers and not wait for a manufacturer to post new ones.

what? the manufacturers drivers are the same as the reference ones.

 

[killerhurtalot]

LOL. "hwcompare" is theoretical based on individual stats on reference cards. It has nothing to do with real life. Or the card as a whole. Case in point, a higher theoretical pixel rate doesnt mean squat when the memory bandwidth on the 670 cant keep up at high res. Why it says the 7950 is much faster in GENERAL.

I don't think I have EVER seen anyone actually try and site hwcompare. That was good for a laugh.

you can easily overclock the memory by 10-15% on the GTX 670... it really isn't a issue like you're making it out to be. and besides. Nvidia products usually offers more stable frame rates than AMD offerings...

 

[stanistheman]

Well from what I can see 7950 basically performs like a 670 (correct me if I'm wrong) and its 3gb so for 1440p more VRAM can't hurt. I think I'm gonna go for the 7950 crossfire setup anyone wanna convince me otherwise?

 

[unksol]

Well from what I can see 7950 basically performs like a 670 (correct me if I'm wrong) and its 3gb so for 1440p more VRAM can't hurt. I think I'm gonna go for the 7950 crossfire setup anyone wanna convince me otherwise?

That's pretty much the situation. Considering how much less your paying for custom 7950s vs reference 670s, the great overclocking on 7950s, and the performance from the new drivers AMD just runs away with this one.

 

[stanistheman]

I could go for a single 7970 but for 1440p I don't think it will hold a constant 60fps on every game

 

[cooldudesubho]

Bigmack is fanboy.Don't listen to the garbage he posts.Read HardOCP reviews. They continuously say crossfire may give a bit more framerate but SLI gives smoother experience. So it really upto.You want more framerate or smoother game play experience.GTX 670 SLI IS FASTER THAN 7950 ANYWAYS.i am talking about stock perfoamnce.Both cards can be overclocked.So the card which is faster at stock will win all the time..

 

[siddharthmukul007]

the 1st thing i would do if i were you, would choose the ROG Maximus V mainboard instead of the as rock extreme 4 (no dis respect to AS Rock fans) and go for the i5 3570K.
Also get 2 HD 7970 in crossfire

 

[cooldudesubho]

Are you still hurting over the fact that I've called you out on some of your nonsense posts? Here's a hint for you: someone who alternates companies with each next brand is by definition NOT a fanboy.

Also, HardOCP is so green they might as well be a tree this round; they've been irritated at AMD ever since they did a launch 7970 Crossfire review and found that AMD didn't have solid day 1 crossfire support. So while you need to take their conclusions into consideration, you also need to consider that they refuse to even attempt to quantify their statements AND sites like Toms have shown pretty definitively that you CAN get rid of stuttering on an AMD setup if you're willing to use Radeonpro and/or play around with your settings. So their "smoothness" claims are something to be aware of but far from a major issue.

And of course the 670 stock is better than the 7950 stock, but the 7950 overclocks FAR, FAR better and will spank 670s at 1440p resolution.

HardOCP talks about stock expereince.There review is valid like a rock.There claims are further backed up by tech reports.Take your BS somewhere else.Why anyone should use some third party software to get of stuttering when nvidia SLI does that by default?AMD needs to move there lazy asses and fix there ***.They charge as much as nvidia.Hell in my region AMD cards are costlier than nvidia or priced same.AMD crossfire is just POS.They can't even make proper crossfire drivers for FC3 which is gaming evolved title for FFS.

 

[stanistheman]

I've read about the "smoother" experience on the 670s but I can justify I a extra $180 dollars for 670 sli And that's reference design 670s a good 670 like the asus is 900 for sli. However I could go for the 660ti sli, should I go for 660ti sli 3gb which is $685 sli or I could go 2gb 660ti,

 

[stanistheman]

True, I really appreciate your help mack, since you seem experienced. Just one thing, how do you personally find crossfire? Is it as bad as everyone says or smooth enough Depending on your answer I'll buy my pc tomorrow, it's not the performance that's holding me back on getting the 7950s there great cards its just hearing bad things about stutter

 

[Embra]

The 660ti was meant to compete with the 7950. It's interesting that the 7950 is always compared with the 670.

 

[cooldudesubho]

The 660ti was meant to compete with the 7950. It's interesting that the 7950 is always compared with the 670.

What you smoking?
http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited

 

[mohit9206]

660ti sli is in my opinion what you should get.
its 192 bit bus wont hold you back well atleast not enough for you to notice.
and its cheaper than 7950 cf as well so thats a bonus as well. so save up some money and get 660ti as they have very similar performance to 7950

 

[stanistheman]

I dont know if i should get a non refrence cooling my case is the storm stryker it has no side fans, if i got for the 670 or 7950 should i go reference cooling?

i just saw you have the cm trooper mack. hows the cooling on it?

 

[stanistheman]

Yea well my friend is selling his 2 asus dc2 670s for pretty cheap, so im think if having no side fans at all is fine. but from what you said getting the stryker seems fine since its the same case as the trooper except white. just cant have side fans but 1-2c isnt much

is it ok if i just leave the stock fans in the stryker? and maybie add 2 120mm at the bottom?

 

[stanistheman]

Yup a nice 850W is fine for a pair of non-OC'd 670s

Awesome thanks man alot. you helped a ton people like you make this world a better place, thanks everyone else too,

Ill be getting the 3570k over the 3770k.

Thanks again mac. your awesome man.