GTX 680 Frame Rate Issue

[M15onebillion]

Hi all,

I recently bought an EVGA GTX 680 SC Edition to upgrade from an ASUS GTX 550ti. When I bought this card I was hoping to get a at least a 60 frames when I play games on my PC maxed out, however that seems to not be the case. When I maxed out the graphic on games such as Dirt 3, Witcher 2, Battlefield 3, Borderlands 2, Far Cry 3, and Sleeping Dogs I was not able to get such high frame rates as that of those who had posed videos on youtube with the same card. I generally get about 30 to 50 frames depending on the location I am at in each of the games. Is there anything I can do to improve the frame rate, besides lowering the settings?

Here are my specs:
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (OC from 3.4 GHz to 4.0 GHz)
GPU: EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature Edition (02G-P4-2685-KR)
Mother Board: H-RS880-uATX (Aloe)
RAM: 8GB DDR3
Display: HP 2009m (1900X600)

I appreciate all of your inputs.

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

Overclock your cpu or buy a new one. It is bottlenecking that gpu. My 7950 was getting bottlenecked by a 965, so I would imagine it would bottleneck an even stronger card. I would try new drivers as well, but I am guessing it's the cpu. You are using a $100 cpu with a $450 gpu. That's a pretty huge price difference.

 

[bigcyco1]

It's your cpu as i mentioned in your other thread you need to upgrade your cpu to a AMD FX 8350 or Intel i5- 3570K but you need a new mobo to if you went the intel route

 

[bystander]

No one plays most those games "maxed out" and get 60 FPS. There are always a few tweaks in order to get 60 FPS. Your resolution may also be different, but "maxed out" is rarely achievable in those games.

For example, you can play The Witcher 2 with all the settings at its highest, but you have to uncheck ubersampling and lower AA, and even then, the prologue will struggle. BF3 will also do good, unless you max out the AA. Far Cry 3 is also very demanding and requires a setting or 2 to be lowered.

Many people who claim they "max out" a game, but forget to mention a few settings they lowered.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

the fx 8350 probably wont be a lot better than a 4ghz phenom to be honest. best bet is to go to an intel i5 for a noticeable improvement.

 

[bigcyco1]

No one plays most those games "maxed out" and get 60 FPS. There are always a few tweaks in order to get 60 FPS. Your resolution may also be different, but "maxed out" is rarely achievable in those games.

For example, you can play The Witcher 2 with all the settings at its highest, but you have to uncheck ubersampling and lower AA, and even then, the prologue will struggle. BF3 will also do good, unless you max out the AA. Far Cry 3 is also very demanding and requires a setting or 2 to be lowered.

Many people who claim they "max out" a game, but forget to mention a few settings they lowered.

+1 best you can do is upgrade your cpu until then you shoud try overclocking your cpu and change some settings it's not that hard i know the Geforce.com tweak guide for Skyrim shows how it's better to use the Nv Control Panel to force 16x Anisotropic Filtering, while putting the in-game settings to "Off".
http://www.geforce.com/optimize/guides/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-tweak-guide/#5

Triple buffering only works in OpenGL games and may introduce visual glitches and controller lag. I always leave it set to 'off'.
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_10.html


Also watch this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CGMQtwIwBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsyE55-jEzb8&ei=Xyc0UaP6OKXSiAL1mYCgCA&usg=AFQjCNG1XC3UHfQnQb_Q8ML1UncUR4Eenw&sig2=RYKgW2p5J68mZ9TNeKzLEA&bvm=bv.43148975,d.cGE

 

[bigcyco1]

the fx 8350 probably wont be a lot better than a 4ghz phenom to be honest. best bet is to go to an intel i5 for a noticeable improvement.

Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE&list=UUNovoA9w0KnxyDP5bGrOYzg lol i am a bit unsure though i think hes a bit of a amd fanboy still i honestly do not know.

 

[bystander]

Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE&list=UUNovoA9w0KnxyDP5bGrOYzg lol i am a bit unsure though i think hes a bit of a amd fanboy still i honestly do not know.

I watched most that video, and one thing that kind of jumped out at me was that he often didn't mention that PhysX was running on the CPU in some cases, like in the case of Metro 2033, if PhysX was turned off, the extra cores would make less of a difference. While you might say that you should compare at maxed settings, those maxed settings weren't playable, which was the case with a lot of games. Anyways, it is quite apparent that more than 4 cores and hyperthreading can be useful. A lot more useful than many people give it credit, but many of the tests weren't done with playable FPS, and the results may have been different when appropriate settings were used.

He kept mentioning that he didn't understand why the results were different than most websites, and I believe the difference was due most websites comparing with playable settings, which might often lower the importance of more than 4 cores.

 

[wdmfiber]

the fx 8350 probably wont be a lot better than a 4ghz phenom to be honest. best bet is to go to an intel i5 for a noticeable improvement.

+1
Just check Tom's CPU Hierarchy Chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

The FX8350 is only one tier group higher than the 965, but below 2nd & 3rd gen Intel i3's. The FX's are all screwed up anyway. AMD went with a virtual 8 core, 4 module, shared resource design. It doesn't work very well.

However, AMD does needs sales...

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As for the vid, what a terrible source of non-sensual, twisted infomation. It would have taken many people or weeks of time, to test enough scenarios/settings to get those hand picked, useless results. And even then, when it suited their goal... they just left the fps of the 3770K out. Ridiculous!!

If you look hard enough online, you can find a positive review for any piece of junk!

 

[bigcyco1]

I watched most that video, and one thing that kind of jumped out at me was that he often didn't mention that PhysX was running on the CPU in some cases, like in the case of Metro 2033, if PhysX was turned off, the extra cores would make less of a difference. While you might say that you should compare at maxed settings, those maxed settings weren't playable, which was the case with a lot of games. Anyways, it is quite apparent that more than 4 cores and hyperthreading can be useful. A lot more useful than many people give it credit, but many of the tests weren't done with playable FPS, and the results may have been different when appropriate settings were used.

He kept mentioning that he didn't understand why the results were different than most websites, and I believe the difference was due most websites comparing with playable settings, which might often lower the importance of more than 4 cores.

You make good points.

 

[pippz619]

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (OC from 3.4 GHz to 4.0 GHz)

That is your main Problem . I had the same cpu with a GTX 590.
I then bought the I7 and my frames went from 120 avrage in cs go to about 300+

 

[M15onebillion]

It's your cpu as i mentioned in your other thread you need to upgrade your cpu to a AMD FX 8350 or Intel i5- 3570K but you need a new mobo to if you went the intel route

For an i5-3570K is this mother board ok for it?
AMD FX 8350: http://www.microcenter.com/product/401630/H77MU3_LGA_1155_mATX_Intel_Motherboard

Is there a point in getting a more expensive motherboard?

Thanks again for all the replies!

 

[bigcyco1]

For an i5-3570K is this mother board ok for it?
AMD FX 8350: http://www.microcenter.com/product/401630/H77MU3_LGA_1155_mATX_Intel_Motherboard

Is there a point in getting a more expensive motherboard?

Thanks again for all the replies!

That would not be a good choice you would want a Z77 so you can overclock your cpu and yes there a point to getting a more expensive motherboard but that also all depends on the persons intended use.These would be good choices http://www.microcenter.com/product/387554/Z77_Extreme4_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/393422/P8Z77-V_LK_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard