GTX 770 2GB or GTX 760 4GB

[pfreshman]

Hey guys, I know similar questions already been answered, there are numerous topics here but they are all old (2-3 year old).

The cards are both used and almost exact in price(about 120 us).
Right now i have 550ti with 1gb(laugh all you want), that's why the upgrade.

I use gpu not only for gaming but for 3d rendering, where vram is more valuable than clock speeds.

I know 770 is faster and utilizes it's memory faster and i heard that even if it has less memory it still better with 2gb than lesser card with more vram.
Also i read that 760 never meant to have 4gb because it is so slow that it wouldn't utilize all its memory fast enough.

I'm not a complete noob in pc hardware, so i don't completely agree with the above. After watching numerous benchmarks of both cards, i can make conclusion that vram is just a limit of things that u can afford on screen. So even if 770 is faster, in a situation when stuff on screen eats more than 2gb of its vram, no matter how fast it is, it will slow down(lower fps). In the same situation for 760 nothing will change, it will still hold it's fps even if it was lower in the first place. And 760 can be overclocked a bit.

So here is my thought process. Am i understanding things correctly? Please correct me if i'm wrong!

I lean more to 760 4gb, a bit slower but more vram hence more future-proof. But not completely sure.

Would really like to hear what you think guys, need reassurance!

 

[ryzenlover2017]

What price range are you looking at, because both of those cards are beginning to be pretty outdated... and for less cash you can buy the 1060 3-6gb which will slaughter both, and will be updated for much longer.

 

[dextermat]

Unless your getting these card for dirty cheap, it is far away from an investment.
Anything 10xx (1050 ti- 1060- ect.)will be better bang for bucks.

 

[AgentLozen]

I have to agree with ryzenlover2017.

Unless there's a super specific reason you're looking at the 760 and 770 (for example if a friend was selling them to you and only had THOSE cards), you should be looking at something more modern.

 

[pfreshman]

What price range are you looking at, because both of those cards are beginning to be pretty outdated... and for less cash you can buy the 1060 3-6gb which will slaughter both, and will be updated for much longer.

The price range is 120 us. The price for 1060 even 3gb starts at 200 us used where i live. On ebay it is 150+ without shipping which will double the price. The best i can afford are 7604gb or 7702gb, everything else is way pricier(

 

[pfreshman]

For example the price for used 9602gb starts at 150 us. As far as i understand it is worse than 770?!

 

[pfreshman]

I have to agree with ryzenlover2017.

Unless there's a super specific reason you're looking at the 760 and 770 (for example if a friend was selling them to you and only had THOSE cards), you should be looking at something more modern.

The reason i'm looking at this cards is that there is no better alternative for that money unfortunately. I would like 780 or newer 970 but they are out of my price range.

 

[pfreshman]

So what do you think is better of the two, 7702gb or 7604gb?

 

[loki1944]

So what do you think is better of the two, 7702gb or 7604gb?

I'd go with the GTX 770 2GB out of those 2 if you are gaming @1080p; number of games that will be limited by VRAM will be slim anyway at that resolution and a GTX 770 will give you a better experience overall than a GTX 760 no matter how many GB of VRAM it has. Worst case you might have to lower some settings when it comes to games they both can run decent to begin with.

What I would really recommend is seeing if you can afford a GTX 1050Ti, RX 470/570, or getting a used R9 290X or 390X as those would all be much better cards as seen here with recent benchmarks https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2665-gtx-770-in-2016-benchmark.

 

[pfreshman]

I'd go with the GTX 770 2GB out of those 2 if you are gaming @1080p; number of games that will be limited by VRAM will be slim anyway at that resolution and a GTX 770 will give you a better experience overall than a GTX 760 no matter how many GB of VRAM it has. Worst case you might have to lower some settings when it comes to games they both can run decent to begin with.

What I would really recommend is seeing if you can afford a GTX 1050Ti, RX 470/570, or getting a used R9 290X or 390X as those would all be much better cards as seen here with recent benchmarks https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2665-gtx-770-in-2016-benchmark.

The thing is, i'm planing to use this card for upcoming year and almost everybody on the internet telling that 7702gb is better card at the same time telling that 2gb in 2017 is not enough. Is 770 so much faster than 760 that additional memory does not count?

1050ti is out of budget( And i don't look at amd cards because i need cuda, i know there are more to choose from on the amd side.

 

[volkgren]

What are the rest of your system specs including power supply?

 

[pfreshman]

What are the rest of your system specs including power supply?

CPU - i7-930
RAM - 12gb
PSU - Ocz 550w

 

[loki1944]

I'd go with the GTX 770 2GB out of those 2 if you are gaming @1080p; number of games that will be limited by VRAM will be slim anyway at that resolution and a GTX 770 will give you a better experience overall than a GTX 760 no matter how many GB of VRAM it has. Worst case you might have to lower some settings when it comes to games they both can run decent to begin with.

What I would really recommend is seeing if you can afford a GTX 1050Ti, RX 470/570, or getting a used R9 290X or 390X as those would all be much better cards as seen here with recent benchmarks https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2665-gtx-770-in-2016-benchmark.

The thing is, i'm planing to use this card for upcoming year and almost everybody on the internet telling that 7702gb is better card at the same time telling that 2gb in 2017 is not enough. Is 770 so much faster than 760 that additional memory does not count?

1050ti is out of budget( And i don't look at amd cards because i need cuda, i know there are more to choose from on the amd side.

2GB is plenty for 1080p, though there may be an outlier here or there that will use more at 1080p with everything maxed, like Wolfenstein II, but all that means is dropping down a few settings. Even in games like Crysis 3 @1440p the reference GTX 770 2GB beat the Asus GTX 760 Striker 4GB http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_760_striker_platinum_review,17.html . Counting on VRAM to be future proof in a 2013 card is not something I would recommend; VRAM is only part of the equation; the rest is having the horsepower to actually use that much VRAM; for example, the GTX 880M had 8GB of VRAM, but was nowhere near powerful enough to actually make use of it. For a GPU, if you want to future-proof, buy a current card; buying a 4 year old card is not a good glide path to future proofing. That being said, I recently sold my 780Ti cards in May of this year, and their performance was outstanding @1080p; with only one or two games at extreme settings that required dialing down AA a bit; them only having 3GB of VRAM never once made me think to jump down to a GTX 770 4GB, because even with a VRAM deficit, overall the 780Ti was the more powerful card and gave the best performance. Same deal here.

 

[ryzenlover2017]

Have you not considered a 1050. Even though the 770 is more powerful, the 1050 seems pretty similar to the 760, and it will supported longer.

 

[AgentLozen]

I think the GTX 760 is more powerful than a GTX 1050. The 1050 consumes WAY less power though if that's important to you.

A closer comparison would be the 1050 TI and the 760. In this case, i think the 1050 TI would fall outside of OP's price range.

Edit:
The Tomshardware graphics card hierarchy lists the 1050 and 760 in the same tier.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

 

[ryzenlover2017]

Yeah... I was looking at benchmarks, and the 760 was about 10 percent faster, but in gaming performance the 1050 seems to win out

 

[dontlistentome]

Based on my experience in PC gaming over the years, I always go with the faster card. Throwing a lot of memory on a slower card is almost always a marketing gimmick. What game that really needs 4gb vram instead of 2gb vram will run well on a 760? None that I can think of.

The one exception if if you have needs besides gaming and that requires you to have 4gb vram. In your case you THINK having 4gb vram will be important but you haven't named one specific program or task where it's a fact that it's important. Rendering 3d models that are very, very complex, yes that uses vram. However, do you have any idea of how complex 3d models have to be for 2gb to not be enough? If you don't, then there's no reason to think that 4gb 760 will be of use to you.

In terms of what's enough for 2017 or the future, that's the wrong way to look at it. If all you need is a 2gb 770 then it doesn't matter what year it is. It should go without saying that an older CPU and an older videocard combination means certain newer games won't run well at 1080p. But that would be true no matter which of those cards you got.

 

[pfreshman]

Based on my experience in PC gaming over the years, I always go with the faster card. Throwing a lot of memory on a slower card is almost always a marketing gimmick. What game that really needs 4gb vram instead of 2gb vram will run well on a 760? None that I can think of.

The one exception if if you have needs besides gaming and that requires you to have 4gb vram. In your case you THINK having 4gb vram will be important but you haven't named one specific program or task where it's a fact that it's important. Rendering 3d models that are very, very complex, yes that uses vram. However, do you have any idea of how complex 3d models have to be for 2gb to not be enough? If you don't, then there's no reason to think that 4gb 760 will be of use to you.

In terms of what's enough for 2017 or the future, that's the wrong way to look at it. If all you need is a 2gb 770 then it doesn't matter what year it is. It should go without saying that an older CPU and an older videocard combination means certain newer games won't run well at 1080p. But that would be true no matter which of those cards you got.

I'm sorry, here you go: 3ds max Vray - creating high quallity materials/shaders, any gpu rendering requires more vram, Substance designer reccomends 4gb of vram(i read that people with 2gb cards were having problems). I know that 770 is great card, but is 760 that much worse?

 

[pfreshman]

Yeah... I was looking at benchmarks, and the 760 was about 10 percent faster, but in gaming performance the 1050 seems to win out

1050 and 760 perform pretty much the same, 1050ti is a bit faster. But prices for 1050 2gb even used start at 150 where i live and buying on ebay means +30-60 us for shipping

 

[pfreshman]

Thanks for all the help, guys. I guess i will wait and save a bit for 1050ti.

 

[ryzenlover2017]

That really is the best choice, and if you can wait a bit longer, the 1060 3gb is only a little more, but both will treat you nicely