GTX 970: Low FPS

[Xercodo]

So this forum has eaten my post twice now so here's to typing it a 3rd time...

I'm getting much lower FPS than expected in BF4 with my new GTX 970 Golden edition from MSI. It's averaging 50-40 even with everything on low. Is there a driver I should rollback to? Also I'm have really bad stutter/freezing that I hear a lot of people are having with BF4. I tried turning off cool n quiet on my AMD core but that didn't help. I've also seen that a few others having problems with the GTX 970 are being bottlenecked by their CPU. I don't think that's the case here but is it?

Here's my info right out of dxdiag:

Time of this report: 11/30/2014, 21:37:55
Machine name: ------
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140706-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: GA-970A-D3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16366MB RAM
Page File: 7648MB used, 25079MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

 

[uplink-svk]

FX-6100, have You tried running it at 4 GHz?

 

[JoneD]

I believe your weak CPU causes the stuttering/lag. You should try overclocking it.

 

[Xercodo]

FX-6100, have You tried running it at 4 GHz?

Not yet, I'll try looking at what kind of CPU utilization I have tomorrow. My house isn't very well insulated though so it was overheating a bit this last summer. Should I just go for the Piledriver equivalent?

EDIT: I'm also seeing using Windows 8 as being the answer for a lot of people. I already have a laptop running it so I guess at least from that perspective it won't hurt as much to adapt my gaming system to it...and it does have better boot times.... hmm

 

[uplink-svk]

Xercodo - first things first, what type of CPU cooler do You have installed in Your system?

P.S.: Windows 8 is a f*cking disaster. I was forced to use it, because of my stupid head, I thought that I need full support for Windows 7, or so, and I went Windows 8. It caused me nothing but trouble. But the issues You have aren't Windows 8 related most likely [99% not].

 

[Xercodo]

Xercodo - first things first, what type of CPU cooler do You have installed in Your system?

P.S.: Windows 8 is a f*cking disaster. I was forced to use it, because of my stupid head, I thought that I need full support for Windows 7, or so, and I went Windows 8. It caused me nothing but trouble. But the issues You have aren't Windows 8 related most likely [99% not].

Well this will probably make most cringe but it's the default cooler that came with the box. The overheating at the time was solved by simply cleaning the thing out, which it did need badly, so it's not THAT bad...

And what was so bad about Win 8? I know some people hate Metro with a passion but I've already been stuck using it on a laptop for a while and I've just found it's something you get used to overtime. From what I've read Win 8 helps because there's something about how it treats memory is done differently and BF4 is specifically optimized for this. The Win 7 implementation has been left on the floor because.....well it's EA. But I don't know for sure if that's what's causing the stutter and freezing.

My biggest concern is the low frame rates because it's something that will likely bleed over to other games and the stutters and freezes are something specific to BF4 and a known issue with the game.

 

[uplink-svk]

You won't be able to OC FX-6100 anywhere beyond some 10-20% of it's original clock without aftermarket cpu cooler. And without overclocking or exchanging the CPU, You won't get a rid of low framerate and stutter. FX-6100 can barely feed the GTX 970 alone, it cannot run the game itself though.

 

[Xercodo]

You won't be able to OC FX-6100 anywhere beyond some 10-20% of it's original clock without aftermarket cpu cooler. And without overclocking or exchanging the CPU, You won't get a rid of low framerate and stutter. FX-6100 can barely feed the GTX 970 alone, it cannot run the game itself though.

I have heard that turning off origin in-game overlay helps and so far it seems to have cut down on the stutter. WIll need to have a longer match to be sure. What little stutter remains I'll probably attribute to the CPU. I also seem to have gain a small amount of FPS, able to reach 70-90 when not looking at much of anything and averaging high 50s.

With MSI afterburner open I can see that all 6 of my cores are running in the 70-80% range so yeah it looks like I'm pushing it a bit. Thankfully the Piledriver architecture has been around a while so I'll look into getting a FX-6300 for cheap.

 

[uplink-svk]

Xercodo - as I mentioned earlier, FX-6100 is able to feed GTX 970, but nothing else with it, not literally, but somewhere around that.

 

[argenroller]

So this forum has eaten my post twice now so here's to typing it a 3rd time...

I'm getting much lower FPS than expected in BF4 with my new GTX 970 Golden edition from MSI. It's averaging 50-40 even with everything on low. Is there a driver I should rollback to? Also I'm have really bad stutter/freezing that I hear a lot of people are having with BF4. I tried turning off cool n quiet on my AMD core but that didn't help. I've also seen that a few others having problems with the GTX 970 are being bottlenecked by their CPU. I don't think that's the case here but is it?

Here's my info right out of dxdiag:

Time of this report: 11/30/2014, 21:37:55
Machine name: ------
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140706-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: GA-970A-D3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16366MB RAM
Page File: 7648MB used, 25079MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

Hi everybody. I know you people are having problems with 900 . series . I recently bought a msi 970 gaming oc not golden. I was afraid about this threads ! This is what i did: new clean w7 64 ultimate.minimum update.and cd drivers .. 344.11. My fps :tomb raider ultra tressfxon 58 average bf4 ultra 90 ,80 average. Ohh and playing on 1080p. Good numbers for me. I hope it helps. Its a driver issue.dont throw away such great cards ! So..344.11 worked ..my other specs 3570k no oced. 8 gb ram 1866 mhz sniper gskill.good luck people !

 

[Xercodo]

So this forum has eaten my post twice now so here's to typing it a 3rd time...

I'm getting much lower FPS than expected in BF4 with my new GTX 970 Golden edition from MSI. It's averaging 50-40 even with everything on low. Is there a driver I should rollback to? Also I'm have really bad stutter/freezing that I hear a lot of people are having with BF4. I tried turning off cool n quiet on my AMD core but that didn't help. I've also seen that a few others having problems with the GTX 970 are being bottlenecked by their CPU. I don't think that's the case here but is it?

Here's my info right out of dxdiag:

Time of this report: 11/30/2014, 21:37:55
Machine name: ------
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140706-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: GA-970A-D3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16366MB RAM
Page File: 7648MB used, 25079MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

Hi everybody. I know you people are having problems with 900 . series . I recently bought a msi 970 gaming oc not golden. I was afraid about this threads ! This is what i did: new clean w7 64 ultimate.minimum update.and cd drivers .. 344.11. My fps :tomb raider ultra tressfxon 58 average bf4 ultra 90 ,80 average. Ohh and playing on 1080p. Good numbers for me. I hope it helps. Its a driver issue.dont throw away such great cards ! So..344.11 worked ..my other specs 3570k no oced. 8 gb ram 1866 mhz sniper gskill.good luck people !

Thanks, I'll try 344.11

I just got a FX-8320 and I'm still not seeing much improvement. Got a hyper 212 Evo cooler so I can overclock too. But I'll try .11

 

[argenroller]

Hope it helps ! Let other people know if it worked for you !

 

[Looping]

Can you try :
Uninstall all drivers and softwares Nvidia
Restart your computer
Downloaded and installed Nvidia Drivers 344.11
...

 

[Xercodo]

Can you try :
Uninstall all drivers and softwares Nvidia
Restart your computer
Downloaded and installed Nvidia Drivers 344.11
...

Actually that leads me in a near endless loop because the mobo has no onboard graphics, so windows installs the latest one it can find as soon as you restart it. I think it seems to be ruining fine now, but it's still not as insane as the bench mark videos show.

At this point I'm willing to chock it up to being the FX-8320's fault for not being the latest $500 i7