gtx 980 or 1070?

[Oxide_]

There's this gtx 980 I've been watching on ebay ; it's only $220. I'm well aware this is a great deal, but the 1070 is also tempting for only $120 more. The 1070 is newer, but are there any huge benefits that would turn me towards the 1070?

 

[Justiceinacan]

The 980 should provide good game performance at 1080p

The 1070 can do 1440p decently and crush 1080p

Unless the 1070 is an FE and you don't have good cooling I'd get the 1070 (heck even if it was FE I'd still probably go 1070)

 

[photonboy]

The GTX980 is not a good deal at $220.

Benchmark: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.html

You can get an RX-480 8GB Asus Strix for only a little more (or 4GB version for closer to $180 ignoring Powercolor and other questionably low-cost GPU's):
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hkJkcf/asus-radeon-rx-480-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx480-o8g-gaming

Ignoring CPU bottleneck issues, the best-case average for the GTX980 is only 9%, but the RX-480 can pull ahead significantly in some DX12/Vulkan games. Also:

1) better VR support
2) 8GB recommended. already 4GB is starting to be an issue in some games and it will only get worse
3) noise
4) HDR, H265 etc (can look up exact differences).
5) WARRANTY. (how much Warranty does the GTX980 even have)
6) resell value in a year or two

The GTX1070 is the way to go if you can afford it though, and I still recommend the Asus Strix version.

**The game consoles use an AMD GPU. With DX12/Vulkan coming not only will we see improvement with modern AMD GPU's due to ACE etc, but AMD is focusing on low-level improvements like Intrinsic Shader support.

However, AMD is prone to over-exagerrate ( so is NVidia) and these changes take time. NVidia can also improve so the RELATIVE differences aren't certain.

Long-term one issue is lack of asynchronous support. There is CONFUSION on this, so I'll be specific. I mean that newer PASCAL has Dynamic Load Balancing to assist in buffering the different data types like COMPUTE. AMD has similar with modern GPU.

GTX980 unfortunately does not have a good solution for this. It's not much issue yet, but it will result in more STUTTERING in future games likely.

SUMMARY:
The GTX1070 is my hands-down top choice.

OTHER:
The GTX1080Ti is also launching at $700USD. Obviously that's a lot more money, and not recommended if you don't have a really good CPU. If you do, then it's worth at least reading up on the benchmarks. Or you can GUESS at roughly 35% average (for modern, somewhat cherry-picked titles arguably).

*With a good CPU the GTX1080Ti in modern titles should produce 2x the FPS of an RX-480 8GB, sometimes more, and sometimes less depending on several factors.

 

[Oxide_]

The 980 should provide good game performance at 1080p

The 1070 can do 1440p decently and crush 1080p

Unless the 1070 is an FE and you don't have good cooling I'd get the 1070 (heck even if it was FE I'd still probably go 1070)

The GTX980 is not a good deal at $220.

Benchmark: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/23.html

You can get an RX-480 8GB Asus Strix for only a little more (or 4GB version for closer to $180 ignoring Powercolor and other questionably low-cost GPU's):
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hkJkcf/asus-radeon-rx-480-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx480-o8g-gaming

Ignoring CPU bottleneck issues, the best-case average for the GTX980 is only 9%, but the RX-480 can pull ahead significantly in some DX12/Vulkan games. Also:

1) better VR support
2) 8GB recommended. already 4GB is starting to be an issue in some games and it will only get worse
3) noise
4) HDR, H265 etc (can look up exact differences).
5) WARRANTY. (how much Warranty does the GTX980 even have)
6) resell value in a year or two

The GTX1070 is the way to go if you can afford it though, and I still recommend the Asus Strix version.

**The game consoles use an AMD GPU. With DX12/Vulkan coming not only will we see improvement with modern AMD GPU's due to ACE etc, but AMD is focusing on low-level improvements like Intrinsic Shader support.

However, AMD is prone to over-exagerrate ( so is NVidia) and these changes take time. NVidia can also improve so the RELATIVE differences aren't certain.

Long-term one issue is lack of asynchronous support. There is CONFUSION on this, so I'll be specific. I mean that newer PASCAL has Dynamic Load Balancing to assist in buffering the different data types like COMPUTE. AMD has similar with modern GPU.

GTX980 unfortunately does not have a good solution for this. It's not much issue yet, but it will result in more STUTTERING in future games likely.

SUMMARY:
The GTX1070 is my hands-down top choice.

OTHER:
The GTX1080Ti is also launching at $700USD. Obviously that's a lot more money, and not recommended if you don't have a really good CPU. If you do, then it's worth at least reading up on the benchmarks. Or you can GUESS at roughly 35% average (for modern, somewhat cherry-picked titles arguably).

*With a good CPU the GTX1080Ti in modern titles should produce 2x the FPS of an RX-480 8GB, sometimes more, and sometimes less depending on several factors.

I've never used an amd card. I'm in love with nvidia's software, recording software (shadowplay), and overall convenience. Does amd share the same qualities? If not, I think my only options would consist of nvidia. The most demanding game I will indulge in is probably Gta 5, but I want to run it in ultra, 1080p.

 

[Justiceinacan]

AMD has Radeon Relive which is quite consistent (Out of 81 clips recorded, I've gotten 1 with messed up audio) and I've never experienced the "terrible driver support" that people claim AMD has.

 

[lakimens]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Oxide_ : "gtx 980 vs 1070"

ok so at this point I can get a gtx 980 on ebay for around $230-250. just looking at the benchmarks on youtube, that might just be the best gpu value I've seen in a while. but I've heard great things about the 1070, and idk if it's really worth the extra $140-200. if what i've gathered is right, isn't the 980 close to sharing the same specs as a 1070? i mean, that 980 is the same price as a 1060, which is a much lower spec card. and please don't say something like "just get a rx 480" coz I'm sticking to nvidia no matter what

Wow, an Nvidia fan boy, alright. Well, the 1070 is better than the 980, I'd say by around 40%.
It's worth the extra cost. Here's a comparison: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=323

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Oxide_ : "gtx 980 vs 1070"

ok so at this point I can get a gtx 980 on ebay for around $230-250. just looking at the benchmarks on youtube, that might just be the best gpu value I've seen in a while. but I've heard great things about the 1070, and idk if it's really worth the extra $140-200. if what i've gathered is right, isn't the 980 close to sharing the same specs as a 1070? i mean, that 980 is the same price as a 1060, which is a much lower spec card. and please don't say something like "just get a rx 480" coz I'm sticking to nvidia no matter what

Wow, an Nvidia fan boy, alright. Well, the 1070 is better than the 980, I'd say by around 40%.
It's worth the extra cost. Here's a comparison: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=323

No need for name calling.

 

[photonboy]

GTA5:
I have a GTX1080 which is roughly 25% faster than the GTX1070 (depending on game) and I can't max out GTA5 settings at 2560x1440.

At 1080p using a GTX1070, I probably could maintain 60FPS, or for sure if I dropped just a few settings like AA etc. I always, always monitor the FPS and tweak to make sure the game is as SMOOTH as possible.

Many of the settings don't add much, and some drop the FPS far more than the visual benefit they give warrants. I tend to concentrate on reducing jaggies (anti-aliasing) and again maintaining the FPS. I play with lowering shadows, sometimes PhysX or whatever to find the best BALANCE of FPS vs visuals.

(GTA 5 on occasion does massively drop in FPS. I dropped to about 20FPS in the exact same area, then restarting the game it was fine. That seems to be pretty rare but still occasionally happens unless it's been fixed in the last month.)

 

[incite999]

GTA5:
I have a GTX1080 which is roughly 25% faster than the GTX1070 (depending on game) and I can't max out GTA5 settings at 2560x1440.

At 1080p using a GTX1070, I probably could maintain 60FPS, or for sure if I dropped just a few settings like AA etc. I always, always monitor the FPS and tweak to make sure the game is as SMOOTH as possible.

Many of the settings don't add much, and some drop the FPS far more than the visual benefit they give warrants. I tend to concentrate on reducing jaggies (anti-aliasing) and again maintaining the FPS. I play with lowering shadows, sometimes PhysX or whatever to find the best BALANCE of FPS vs visuals.

(GTA 5 on occasion does massively drop in FPS. I dropped to about 20FPS in the exact same area, then restarting the game it was fine. That seems to be pretty rare but still occasionally happens unless it's been fixed in the last month.)

So no help comparing gtx 980 to gtx 1070 like the OP asked for? I am also interested altho a little late.

 

[rgd1101]

did you read the
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3347941/gtx-980-1070.html#19372858