Question Guys, would this bundle be worth it over my current setup ?

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Depends on your use case for your PC.

For gaming, R7 9700X offers better FPS due to better single-core performance.

Gaming comparison:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzNKBKG5L4


But for workstation use, where multi-threaded performance matters, you'll be giving up half of your cores and threads. From 16c/32t to 8c/16t.
Synthetic comparison: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-Ryzen-7-9700X

Blood And Beer said:
Which I feel like I'm being bottlenecked with my 7900 XTX.
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For that GPU (best of AMD currently), essentially only viable CPU to pair it, would be R7 9800X3D (aka gaming king).
 
Aeacus said:
Depends on your use case for your PC.

For gaming, R7 9700X offers better FPS due to better single-core performance.

Gaming comparison:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzNKBKG5L4


But for workstation use, where multi-threaded performance matters, you'll be giving up half of your cores and threads. From 16c/32t to 8c/16t.
Synthetic comparison: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-Ryzen-7-9700X


For that GPU (best of AMD currently), essentially only viable CPU to pair it, would be R7 9800X3D (aka gaming king).
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It would be strictly for gaming, was hoping to use it to get into the new architecture and have some upgradeability. So not a bad idea?
 
Blood And Beer said:
It would be strictly for gaming
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At current moment R7 9800X3D is best option in terms of gaming. On 4K high/ultra settings, you're looking easy 40 FPS extra over your current CPU;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWyEYKYo8A


Blood And Beer said:
was hoping to use it to get into the new architecture and have some upgradeability
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Ryzen 10000-series (Zen6 "Morpheus") is rumored to release Q3/Q4 '26 and AMD has said that they will support AM5 platform throughout 2027. Maybe even longer.
So, if you go with Ryzen 9000-series now, earliest you could upgrade your CPU, while keeping the same MoBo, would be ~1.5 years time.

Blood And Beer said:
So not a bad idea?
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The current CPU what you have, is actually pretty good one. Ideal workstation CPU due to high core/thread count. Now, if all what you care is more FPS (without willing to reduce resolution) and have money for new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo (AM5 supports ONLY DDR5 RAM), then sure - go for it. But if you do, i suggest getting R7 9800X3D CPU.
 
Aeacus said:
At current moment R7 9800X3D is best option in terms of gaming. On 4K high/ultra settings, you're looking easy 40 FPS extra over your current CPU;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWyEYKYo8A



Ryzen 10000-series (Zen6 "Morpheus") is rumored to release Q3/Q4 '26 and AMD has said that they will support AM5 platform throughout 2027. Maybe even longer.
So, if you go with Ryzen 9000-series now, earliest you could upgrade your CPU, while keeping the same MoBo, would be ~1.5 years time.


The current CPU what you have, is actually pretty good one. Ideal workstation CPU due to high core/thread count. Now, if all what you care is more FPS (without willing to reduce resolution) and have money for new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo (AM5 supports ONLY DDR5 RAM), then sure - go for it. But if you do, i suggest getting R7 9800X3D CPU.
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The plan was to get this bundle, then upgrade to the 9800X3D in January.
 
Blood And Beer said:
The plan was to get this bundle, then upgrade to the 9800X3D in January.
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Well, that means wasting money on CPU. But your money.

Did look that combo closer and MoBo is the weak part in that combo. Probably the reason why this combo was assembled in the 1st place.

AMD 600-series (e.g B650) was released alongside Ryzen 7000-series CPUs. So, for Ryzen 7000-series, B650 chipset would be decent (X670 would be better). For Ryzen 9000-series, B850 or X870/X870E would be better.

AM5 chipset comparison: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html#specs

As for that Gigabyte MoBo itself, well, it is low-end one among other B650 chipsets,
roundup: https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd-b650-motherboards/
specs: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-X-AX-V2-rev-1x/sp#sp

It's two main weaknesses are small VRM phase count (8 main phases only, namely 8+2+2) and lack of support for PCI-E 5.0 (except one M.2 slot).
It would be decent MoBo to pair with R5 7600 or so.

As far as hardware combos go, those aren't for consumers for to have a great deal. Those are for retailers to get rid of excess stock that isn't bought normally.
CPU there is good, probably added as main selling point. MoBo is one gen older, mid tier. And low end of the mid tier. Most likely excess stock that MicroCenter wants to get rid of. Same could be with RAM. Also excess stock to be get rid of.

Your call if you want to go with that combo. But for R7 9800X3D, i'd get better MoBo.

Actually, i'm on the market of buying R7 9800X3D for myself as well. But i'll be buying it later this year. Did select the hardware for it and i'll be getting MoBo with 20+2+2 VRM phases to go alongside my R7 9800X3D (X870E chipset).
 
Blood And Beer said:
https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

Would this be a better option?
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Well, CPU is better, former king of gaming (until R7 9800X3D released).

Despite R7 7800X3D being gen older than R7 9700X, in gaming, you still get ~15 FPS more with former king;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEOIfkU9qI


MoBo is still weak part of the combo, 8+2 VRM phases and the same lack of PCI-E 5.0 support (as Gigabyte above, Asus also has just one M.2 PCI-E slot, while the rest, including PCI-E x16 slots are all PCI-E 4.0),
specs: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/

And the RAM is very same as in previous combo.


The more phases VRM has (including proper cooling) - the more stable power CPU (actually entire PC) can get through MoBo. Having more VRM phases is especially critical for high power consumption CPUs, even more so when you OC the CPU.
Here is good Q&A about VRM: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/vrm/

If you looked the B650 MoBo roundup, there are few MoBos with mere 4 phase VRM. Then one has 6 phase VRM. Followed by 8, 10 (one MoBo), 12 (most MoBos), 14, 16 and ends with insane 24 phase AsRock MoBo.

So, in B650 lineup, MoBo VRM phase selection is: 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 24 (namely 24+2+1). Since Ryzen 7 is high-end CPU (regardless if you go with 7800X3D, 9700X, 9800X3D), i'd pair such high-end CPU with minimum 12 VRM phase MoBo. While more would be better. (As i said earlier, i'm pairing my 9800X3D with 20+2+2 VRM phase MoBo. While the current MoBo what i'm using, from 2016, MSI Z170A Gaming M5, has 12 VRM phases.)
From the Lenovo link i shared above, you can read what issues may arise when you skimp over VRM phases. So, your call if you want to get weak MoBo (VRM) with your high-end CPU.
 
Just for gaming? Pretty solid deal, as has been said the mobo isn’t great but it’s not awful either.

There’s always something better if you throw more money at it but for gaming this is a decent upgrade.

Just be sure you don’t need the extra cores you have now for work or a game that loves lots of cores.
 
Blood And Beer said:
https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

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Yes it would be. You could upgrade to a bit better board, for more money. I would not worry about PCI-E gen5. It still is an unnecessary feature. The drives don't offer much in real world usage, unless you are moving a bunch of larger files a lot. Something a gaming focused build typically does not do. Gen 5 for the graphics is pointless too. Yes, Nvidia has Gen5 on 50 series, but it's just a marketing gimmick.

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx


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I wouldn't worry about the VRM of that Tuf board either.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUVW7wgR3s&t=1401s
 
Not worth it IMHO; your build is already pretty solid. I am either going to bypass AM5 or get the final generation of CPUs when they are going dirt cheap like AM4.
 
Picked up the bundle today. Posted the same question on the steam forums and a lot of folks have had an issue with the RAM, saying that the timings or CL are bad. It's a 36 but I'm not finding much lower on Amazon?
 
I’ve got the ryzen 7 7700 non x running on an Asus tuf gaming b650 plus WiFi board. No major issues for me.

If you wanted to go cheaper they do have the 7700x bundle for $370.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...ies-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

But the advantage of the 9700x is that it’s only a 65 watt part like my 7700, so you’re getting slightly better performance than the 7700x but should get lower temps etc.

Jayz2cents had a video a few weeks ago where he’s using this bundle so you might find that interesting.

View: https://youtu.be/UreYbJPafhE?feature=shared


His opinion was the CL36 didn’t make a lot of difference for gamers. He said that they even tested with a 5090. So if that’s the case I’d say go for the bundle.
 
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