Had to cut back on cpu and graphics for my first build. Am I losing anything?

fakesympathy

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So this was my original plan for the first build, but due to some vendors not having parts and getting parts for more on other vendors, not budgeting for shipping and taxes, and getting a 144hz monitor I had to make adjustments

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6rbh29

This is my new build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tj68P3

I am mostly cutting back on CPU and graphics. I heard i5-8600 and gtx 1070 work jut as fine as i7-8700 and gtx 1080, but I wanted to hear everyone's opinion?
 
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My opinion:
I5-8600K with an overclock will game exactly as well as a I7-8700K. Good change there.
Unless you must build now, the 9th gen intel processors should ship soon; I might wait for the I5-9600K

GTX1070 is not as capable as GTX1080. If your games are fast action shooters, see if you can't restore the GTX1080.
At least, buy a EVGA card in case you want to use their 90 day trade op option.

On the rest of your build:

Your case has 160mm available for a cooler.
The cryorig h1 universal is 168mm tall, it will not fit.
A equally good alternative that will fit is the noctua NH-D15s which is cheaper at $80.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608072

A less expensive motherboard will do just as well.
I use a...
You didn't mention a new budget, how does tgis look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($36.40 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($158.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - VG245H 24.0" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor ($181.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1495.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-05 11:00 EDT-0400
 


Well that depends on the games, you plan on gaming at 1080P and 144Hz.

I would add an SSD for your OS drive, a 250GB like a Samsung 860 EVO and likely a better case on top of the changes I made. Didn't make since to get the parts you did and cheap out on the PSU, case and no SSD.

Would be better if we had a budget to work with however.

However I made a few changes on the 2nd build here:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.84 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($198.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($364.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - Stryker M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.93 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($270.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1643.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-05 10:58 EDT-0400

 
My opinion:
I5-8600K with an overclock will game exactly as well as a I7-8700K. Good change there.
Unless you must build now, the 9th gen intel processors should ship soon; I might wait for the I5-9600K

GTX1070 is not as capable as GTX1080. If your games are fast action shooters, see if you can't restore the GTX1080.
At least, buy a EVGA card in case you want to use their 90 day trade op option.

On the rest of your build:

Your case has 160mm available for a cooler.
The cryorig h1 universal is 168mm tall, it will not fit.
A equally good alternative that will fit is the noctua NH-D15s which is cheaper at $80.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608072

A less expensive motherboard will do just as well.
I use a Asrock Z370M pro4 which sells for about $110. There are other less expensive Z370 based motherboards.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157793&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=


I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games.
But, many things default to the "C" drive.
When a SSD nears full, it will lose performance and endurance.
240gb is the recommended minimum.

If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

You can defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.

And, if you need a hard drive, look at WD or hitachi, they are supposed to be more reliable.

 
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King_V

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It's a little confusing because your first build had a GTX 1080, but a monitor that maxed out at 75Hz at 1920x1080, but your second build went down to a GTX 1070, but upped the monitor to one that can do 144Hz at 1920x1080.

What's the goal here?

The GTX 1070 is generally seen as a "max details at 60fps @ 2560x1440" video card. 1920x1080 has about 56% of the number of pixels to push, so, theoretically should probably handle around 100 or so fps at 1920x1080. I basically just took 60 divided by 0.56, though I'm pretty sure it doesn't work EXACTLY like that.

Do you want/need 144 fps? Would you be happy at 75? At 100?