Hadron Build with 970 and 4790k questions

cowmoohard

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I got a Hadron build that I am working on, thinking to purchase on black friday and cyber monday... depending on the discounts...

Heres my build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/B448XL

I need suggestions on:
- what spec rams to go for on black friday.
- cooler cpu.... avoid liquid cooler cuz it takes up space for additional harddrives?
- Second thoughts on motherboards...
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-Z97IPLU&c=CJ
OR http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-Z97MITA&c=CJ

If you think I should adjust my build, please let me know!

Any inputs would be great.
Trying to fit my budget at 1k
 
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Is there a reason you're doing an ITX build? They aren't the best for overclocking. They don't have the room for a good power phase design. If you stay with the ITX build, you definitely want to go with a modular PSU (disconnect cables) that way you only use the cables needed. If this build is for gaming, I would also drop the i7 for an i5. There are very few situation where the i7 beats the i5. It's really not worth the extra cash.

Have you thought about an mATX build? You'll have a lot more option in motherboard choices.
Is there a reason you're doing an ITX build? They aren't the best for overclocking. They don't have the room for a good power phase design. If you stay with the ITX build, you definitely want to go with a modular PSU (disconnect cables) that way you only use the cables needed. If this build is for gaming, I would also drop the i7 for an i5. There are very few situation where the i7 beats the i5. It's really not worth the extra cash.

Have you thought about an mATX build? You'll have a lot more option in motherboard choices.
 
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I haven't really thought about any other builds besides going something small...

I've been thinking about dropping i7 for i5 when I saw newegg has some i5 discounts... and then 980 is now possible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116895&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=EMC-IGNEFL112414&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112414&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112414-_-EMC-112414-index-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19116895-S1A1B

You think thats a good cpu + 980 GTX?
Should I wait a couple days more before buying a cpu or that is a serious good deal?
 
It really depends what you are trying to do with it as to whether or not stuff like a GTX980 or i7 have any real value.

I'll fire through some general stuff though.

  • ■ You can overclock on ITX, and overclock well. The limitation is primarily the case/cooler combo rather than the format itself - especially on the current generation of CPUs.
    ■ The Hadron isn't great for overclocking, or cooling in general. It's main USP is the size.
    ■ In a Hadron Air your main/only option for CPU coolers are the selection of 90-93mm fan based tower coolers. This includes things like the Hyper 101, Hyper TX3, Xigmatek Loki and EVGA's own ACX ITX cooler. Depending on the motherboard the largest cooler that's likely to fit is the Arctic Freezer 13. All of these should be pointed with the fan down towards the graphics card rather than towards the front of the case in a conventional build.
    ■ Ideally you want a reference "blower" graphics card for a Hadron Air due to the self-exhausting. Axial fan designs usually offer better cooling/noise characteristics in a more open case but in a Hadron the space around the card is hugely limited and there isn't a lot of venting. Search forums for many issues surrounding this.
    ■ Obviously if you get the Hadron you don't need a PSU. If you consider changing the case a modular PSU can be useful but only in certain cases. It's a generalisation to suggest that it's beneficial in all ITX builds.
    ■ Avoid the ASRock Z97M-ITX/AC, it's just the H97M-ITX with an different chipset. The Z97E-ITX/AC has a far better featureset and is much more of a proper Z97 board. The Asus board is very nice too but usually significantly more expensive and it's hard to justify the cost.
    ■ An overclockable CPU in a case with the potential to limit your overclocking is arguably a waste of money. A stock clocked processor will perform remarkably similarly in many scenarios (like gaming) and can reduce the cost of - CPU, motherboard and CPU cooler (plus potentially memory, PSU and case/cooling).
 
I don't really think a 980 is worth it for a first build. It's only 15% faster than a 970 and over $200 more. I remember reading a review for small build 970 GTX.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.90 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $985.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-25 23:53 EST-0500

I don't pick cases. And a DVD drive can be grabbed for $20.