- Feb 12, 2025
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I recently changed out the RAM in my system and am getting a bizarre error I've never encountered. It's not a blue screen, and there is no memory dump file that results; instead the video cuts out and one or more of my system's fans (definitely the primary exhaust fan, possibly others as well) spins up to max. This has happened twice now, with the first instance occurring while I was away and the second instance seemingly being triggered by me accidentally bumping the stand upon which the computer rests.
Windows reports the two instances of the problem as follows:
Additionally, Reliability Monitor reports a bunch of instances of the Desktop Windows Manager crashing, following the hardware error event. Here's a sample of one:
I have tried reseating the RAM and will wait to see if that potentially fixed the issue.
For what it's worth, the first time this happened, I pressed the power button on the case and, after a little while, the system shut down on its own. The second time, I tried just pressing and nothing seemed to happen (it's possible I didn't wait long enough), so I pressed and held the button down for a forced power-off. Reliability Monitor only reports a "Windows was not properly shut down" event after the second instance of this problem happening.
When the first error happened, my RAM was clocked at 3600 MT/s, which I was somewhat worried about because the 5600X is only rated to support 3200. But after the first error, I downclocked it to 3200, and the second instance of the error happened regardless.
For context, my system has a history of being very finnicky with RAM. I started with a Ryzen 3200G and a 4GBx2 memory kit (Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) PVB48G300C6K), with no problems whatsoever. Eventually I upgraded to an 8GBx2 kit (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) F4-3600C18D-16GVK) with no problems either... until I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 5600X. Then I encountered numerous blue screens until, with assistance from this forum, I finally figured out that it was down to the memory and the new CPU, for whatever reason, not getting along. So I went back to the original 8GB kit and was using that for a year without problems.
Late last year I decided to try going to 16 GB again, and this time I got another Patriot memory kit (Patriot Memory Signature Premium DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) UDIMM Kit W/HEATSHIELD PSP416G3200KH1) because the previous one worked well in my system. And this one seemed to work fine without any stability issues, but I didn't realize until too late that it had high CAS latency, and I thought I was noticing stutters in games where I hadn't noticed them when on the original 8GB kit, so I went back to that, again. And a couple of months later, I decided to try again with a kit with much lower latency (Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C16 1.35V - CMK16GX4M2D3600C16), and this is the memory kit that is currently in my PC.
If anyone has any insights into what might have caused this, any help would be appreciated.
System specifications:
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: PNY 1660 Super single-fan
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C16 1.35V - CMK16GX4M2D3600C16
PSU: CORSAIR CX Series CX450 450W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
Windows reports the two instances of the problem as follows:
Code:
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffd688e2444050
Parameter 2: fffff80377a6e650
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 0
OS version: 10_0_22631
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.22631.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffff9101044d7010
Parameter 2: fffff8027d6ce650
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 0
OS version: 10_0_22631
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.22631.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033Additionally, Reliability Monitor reports a bunch of instances of the Desktop Windows Manager crashing, following the hardware error event. Here's a sample of one:
Code:
Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Windows\System32\dwm.exe
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dwm.exe
Application Version: 10.0.22621.4541
Application Timestamp: 9e540ce0
Fault Module Name: dwmcore.dll
Fault Module Version: 10.0.22621.4541
Fault Module Timestamp: 3aeb5f08
Exception Code: 8898008d
Exception Offset: 0000000000124c41
OS Version: 10.0.22631.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 11e7
Additional Information 2: 11e7b28e832689b1b585bd341fb00da6
Additional Information 3: 6bce
Additional Information 4: 6bcee1b69194efe0c20b34013ad05a2c
Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 817f8daa9583af13fe4ef8edca6fddf8 (2183956569508535800)I have tried reseating the RAM and will wait to see if that potentially fixed the issue.
For what it's worth, the first time this happened, I pressed the power button on the case and, after a little while, the system shut down on its own. The second time, I tried just pressing and nothing seemed to happen (it's possible I didn't wait long enough), so I pressed and held the button down for a forced power-off. Reliability Monitor only reports a "Windows was not properly shut down" event after the second instance of this problem happening.
When the first error happened, my RAM was clocked at 3600 MT/s, which I was somewhat worried about because the 5600X is only rated to support 3200. But after the first error, I downclocked it to 3200, and the second instance of the error happened regardless.
For context, my system has a history of being very finnicky with RAM. I started with a Ryzen 3200G and a 4GBx2 memory kit (Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) PVB48G300C6K), with no problems whatsoever. Eventually I upgraded to an 8GBx2 kit (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) F4-3600C18D-16GVK) with no problems either... until I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 5600X. Then I encountered numerous blue screens until, with assistance from this forum, I finally figured out that it was down to the memory and the new CPU, for whatever reason, not getting along. So I went back to the original 8GB kit and was using that for a year without problems.
Late last year I decided to try going to 16 GB again, and this time I got another Patriot memory kit (Patriot Memory Signature Premium DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) UDIMM Kit W/HEATSHIELD PSP416G3200KH1) because the previous one worked well in my system. And this one seemed to work fine without any stability issues, but I didn't realize until too late that it had high CAS latency, and I thought I was noticing stutters in games where I hadn't noticed them when on the original 8GB kit, so I went back to that, again. And a couple of months later, I decided to try again with a kit with much lower latency (Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C16 1.35V - CMK16GX4M2D3600C16), and this is the memory kit that is currently in my PC.
If anyone has any insights into what might have caused this, any help would be appreciated.
System specifications:
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: PNY 1660 Super single-fan
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C16 1.35V - CMK16GX4M2D3600C16
PSU: CORSAIR CX Series CX450 450W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
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