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I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE ATA100
hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard drive. Can
I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150? Essentially
what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from just
speed) and what is compatible with my system.
 
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Won't baffle you with tech details. The ATA133 drive willl downshift to the
ATA100 standard if that's all the motherboard supports. This is a PATA
drive. If the ATA133 HD is more expensive, you should find a ATA100 HD, use
that instead.

SATA drives use an entirely different connector. You can't use it on your
system as is.

"edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE
ATA100
> hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard drive.
Can
> I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150? Essentially
> what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from just
> speed) and what is compatible with my system.
 
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IDE/ATAPI speed is purely a function of the Chipset on the
motherboard. UDMA mode 5 (100 Mhz ) is "Officially" the
last standard. There is UDMA mode 6, but only two vendors
actually support it (I believe Maxtor is one).

There is now two SATA standards I & II, II which doubles
the data throughput to 300 Megabytes a second. SATA has
a single device per channel. There is no daisy-chaining as in
PATA IDE with Master/Slave setups.

Depending on your system, a SATA drive can obtain higher
average speeds at or above 50 Megabytes a second.

You could get a PCI SATA card and purchase a SATA disk
drive. However, on a 6-year old PC you'd be better served
by a newer PC. A motherboard/CPU/Memory swap might
be a consideration - but with costs these days it's just not as
much of a viable option. Yesterday, I saw an eMachines PC
at Office depot for $458 that had 512 Memory, DVD-RW
optical and a 2.6 AMD CPU.

"edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3DA7F458-624F-4488-9FC8-0230C396AACB@microsoft.com...
>I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE
>ATA100
> hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard drive.
> Can
> I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150? Essentially
> what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from just
> speed) and what is compatible with my system.
 
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I'm actually just looking into putting a new hard drive into the computer for
my son to use for everyday use, so I am not looking to put a lot into it.
It currently has 20gb and I want to upgrade it to around 80gb. I saw that
there are ATA100 and ATA133 availible. I want to know if the 133 will screw
up the computer.
"R. McCarty" wrote:

> IDE/ATAPI speed is purely a function of the Chipset on the
> motherboard. UDMA mode 5 (100 Mhz ) is "Officially" the
> last standard. There is UDMA mode 6, but only two vendors
> actually support it (I believe Maxtor is one).
>
> There is now two SATA standards I & II, II which doubles
> the data throughput to 300 Megabytes a second. SATA has
> a single device per channel. There is no daisy-chaining as in
> PATA IDE with Master/Slave setups.
>
> Depending on your system, a SATA drive can obtain higher
> average speeds at or above 50 Megabytes a second.
>
> You could get a PCI SATA card and purchase a SATA disk
> drive. However, on a 6-year old PC you'd be better served
> by a newer PC. A motherboard/CPU/Memory swap might
> be a consideration - but with costs these days it's just not as
> much of a viable option. Yesterday, I saw an eMachines PC
> at Office depot for $458 that had 512 Memory, DVD-RW
> optical and a 2.6 AMD CPU.
>
> "edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3DA7F458-624F-4488-9FC8-0230C396AACB@microsoft.com...
> >I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE
> >ATA100
> > hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard drive.
> > Can
> > I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150? Essentially
> > what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from just
> > speed) and what is compatible with my system.
>
>
>
 
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OK, thanks for the elaboration. A 133 will work fine on a 100
IDE channel.

"edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE1958C1-5F3D-47CE-B7F8-BC78AF22B4A9@microsoft.com...
> I'm actually just looking into putting a new hard drive into the computer
> for
> my son to use for everyday use, so I am not looking to put a lot into it.
> It currently has 20gb and I want to upgrade it to around 80gb. I saw that
> there are ATA100 and ATA133 availible. I want to know if the 133 will
> screw
> up the computer.
> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>
>> IDE/ATAPI speed is purely a function of the Chipset on the
>> motherboard. UDMA mode 5 (100 Mhz ) is "Officially" the
>> last standard. There is UDMA mode 6, but only two vendors
>> actually support it (I believe Maxtor is one).
>>
>> There is now two SATA standards I & II, II which doubles
>> the data throughput to 300 Megabytes a second. SATA has
>> a single device per channel. There is no daisy-chaining as in
>> PATA IDE with Master/Slave setups.
>>
>> Depending on your system, a SATA drive can obtain higher
>> average speeds at or above 50 Megabytes a second.
>>
>> You could get a PCI SATA card and purchase a SATA disk
>> drive. However, on a 6-year old PC you'd be better served
>> by a newer PC. A motherboard/CPU/Memory swap might
>> be a consideration - but with costs these days it's just not as
>> much of a viable option. Yesterday, I saw an eMachines PC
>> at Office depot for $458 that had 512 Memory, DVD-RW
>> optical and a 2.6 AMD CPU.
>>
>> "edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DA7F458-624F-4488-9FC8-0230C396AACB@microsoft.com...
>> >I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE
>> >ATA100
>> > hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard drive.
>> > Can
>> > I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150?
>> > Essentially
>> > what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from
>> > just
>> > speed) and what is compatible with my system.
>>
>>
>>
 
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Just at "slower" speeds, until you add a true ATA133 controller.


"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O3N28nloFHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> OK, thanks for the elaboration. A 133 will work fine on a 100
> IDE channel.
>
> "edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FE1958C1-5F3D-47CE-B7F8-BC78AF22B4A9@microsoft.com...
>> I'm actually just looking into putting a new hard drive into the computer
>> for
>> my son to use for everyday use, so I am not looking to put a lot into
>> it.
>> It currently has 20gb and I want to upgrade it to around 80gb. I saw that
>> there are ATA100 and ATA133 availible. I want to know if the 133 will
>> screw
>> up the computer.
>> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>>
>>> IDE/ATAPI speed is purely a function of the Chipset on the
>>> motherboard. UDMA mode 5 (100 Mhz ) is "Officially" the
>>> last standard. There is UDMA mode 6, but only two vendors
>>> actually support it (I believe Maxtor is one).
>>>
>>> There is now two SATA standards I & II, II which doubles
>>> the data throughput to 300 Megabytes a second. SATA has
>>> a single device per channel. There is no daisy-chaining as in
>>> PATA IDE with Master/Slave setups.
>>>
>>> Depending on your system, a SATA drive can obtain higher
>>> average speeds at or above 50 Megabytes a second.
>>>
>>> You could get a PCI SATA card and purchase a SATA disk
>>> drive. However, on a 6-year old PC you'd be better served
>>> by a newer PC. A motherboard/CPU/Memory swap might
>>> be a consideration - but with costs these days it's just not as
>>> much of a viable option. Yesterday, I saw an eMachines PC
>>> at Office depot for $458 that had 512 Memory, DVD-RW
>>> optical and a 2.6 AMD CPU.
>>>
>>> "edb1" <edb1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3DA7F458-624F-4488-9FC8-0230C396AACB@microsoft.com...
>>> >I have an older model dell (xps T series~6 years old) that has an IDE
>>> >ATA100
>>> > hard drive connection. I am looking to upgrade to a larger hard
>>> > drive.
>>> > Can
>>> > I use IDE ATA133 without a problem, what about serial ATA150?
>>> > Essentially
>>> > what is the difference between ATA100/133-serial ATA150 (apart from
>>> > just
>>> > speed) and what is compatible with my system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
 
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