Has AMD threw a spanner in the worx

[tec123]

Hi just as ive picked my perfect part list, everyone of my friends is now saying i should get the Ryzen 5, Ive had a look but dont know what one i would get and if my parts would need changing

The computer is mainly being used for Photoshop, Coding, Programming, Basic Video Editing(Maybe Never just incase), Dual Monitors, and very basic gaming!

Just want to be able to code, design, and play music at the same time, also play Runescape (That i think is mainly CPU based)

This is my current list

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£67.21 @ Alza)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£78.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£48.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 460 2GB Dual OC Video Card (£101.34 @ More Computers)
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.97 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £587.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Is there anything anyone would change?


And would i benefit from spending more / less for the ryzen 5?

All feedback is appriciated

Thanks

 

[captaincharisma]

intel kaby lake is still the better performer, AMD Ryzen 5 series under performs a bit and IMO is not worth starting another build from scratch if you have everything including your budget set.

 

[tec123]

intel kaby lake is still the better performer, AMD Ryzen 5 series under performs a bit and IMO is not worth starting another build from scratch if you have everything including your budget set.

If i was to go for the Ryzen, should i expect build cost to go up?

 

[MRBANG1]

Ryzen doesn't under perfom for Video editing, coding or any design or basic gaming. But that being said i do think you have a solid built that will work well. Yes you could change it to a 6 core / 12 thread ryzen for about the same money, and depending on your coding or video editing, that will run faster on 12 threads than 4 intel threads. You would have to change CPU and Motherboard, all your other parts would work just fine.

 

[tec123]

Ryzen doesn't under perfom for Video editing, coding or any design or basic gaming. But that being said i do think you have a solid built that will work well. Yes you could change it to a 6 core / 12 thread ryzen for about the same money, and depending on your coding or video editing, that will run faster on 12 threads than 4 intel threads. You would have to change CPU and Motherboard, all your other parts would work just fine.

Thanks for that, to be honest i didnt want to spend as much money as my current build, would a A10 perform for what i want?, I was thinking of the Ryzen just because its the latest technology and i want this build to last a few years, I wouldnt mind building a A10 Build and then maybe upgrading in a year or so

 

[MRBANG1]

I can't recommend that honestly, because you have no upgrade path with the A10. If you go with Kaby Lake or even the lowest Ryzen you have some option, A10 is a dead platform, and that CPU doesn't have a lot of muscle for any serious coding / rendering. It would save you a few bucks though.

 

[captaincharisma]

Ryzen doesn't under perfom for Video editing, coding or any design or basic gaming. But that being said i do think you have a solid built that will work well. Yes you could change it to a 6 core / 12 thread ryzen for about the same money, and depending on your coding or video editing, that will run faster on 12 threads than 4 intel threads. You would have to change CPU and Motherboard, all your other parts would work just fine.

Thanks for that, to be honest i didnt want to spend as much money as my current build, would a A10 perform for what i want?, I was thinking of the Ryzen just because its the latest technology and i want this build to last a few years, I wouldnt mind building a A10 Build and then maybe upgrading in a year or so

even an intel 4th gen CPU a PC like that would last a few years. but an AMD A10 is old tech and would get outperformed by the 7500 you've chosen

 

[tec123]

I can't recommend that honestly, because you have no upgrade path with the A10. If you go with Kaby Lake or even the lowest Ryzen you have some option, A10 is a dead platform, and that CPU doesn't have a lot of muscle for any serious coding / rendering. It would save you a few bucks though.

Yeah i appriciate that,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7860k 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.29 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£39.00 @ Aria PC)
Memory: ADATA XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£73.17 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£28.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.48 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: FSP Group HEXA+ 500W ATX Power Supply (£36.99 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer (£18.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £312.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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How would that perform for what i want?, Could it easily handle it?

 

[MRBANG1]

Your gaming just went down the drain with that setup, the internal GPU on A10 can only handle so much. A dedicated GPU like the AMD 460 is several times faster. Also its a slow harddrive, no SSD. It won't be a very snappy system. IF you want budget and don't want to wait for the low end ryzen, look into a intel I3 setup perhaps.

 

[madmatt30]

If you want to spend as little as possible then just go for a pentium g4560 build mate.

You're at least then on a fully upgradeable platform .

That said if you want to spend the £600 budget from your first post then the ryzen 1600 is currently £204 on amazon (mine has just been ordered 5 minutes ago).

 

[tec123]

If you want to spend as little as possible then just go for a pentium g4560 build mate.

You're at least then on a fully upgradeable platform .

That said if you want to spend the £600 budget from your first post then the ryzen 1600 is currently £204 on amazon (mine has just been ordered 5 minutes ago).

Whats the best that i could build for 300-350?

 

[madmatt30]

Little bit over mate , boundless amounts better than that fm2 build though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£52.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£62.90 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£58.78 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£87.97 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£28.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.78 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £377.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[madmatt30]

If you need to drop it further .

http://www.ebuyer.com/725443-avp-el03w-viper-mini-tower-white-2-x-12cm-fans-usb-3-0-cas-7441

That's a £19 case which while not incredible quality is incredible value for money.

 

[tec123]

Little bit over mate , boundless amounts better than that fm2 build though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£52.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£62.90 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£58.78 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£87.97 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£28.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.78 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £377.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-11 18:45 BST+0100

And the G4560 is better than the A10? , Am i right in thinking this gives me the upgrade path of maybe a I5 or i7 at some point?, I take it theres only so much upgrade you can do before the motherboard needs changing, sorry for noob replies but never built a computer before and want to make sure i get as much right as i can, as ive got to buy monitors and everything.

Is the G4560 adequate for what i want? I know its hard to say but from what ive said ill be doing should i handle it ?

Thanks Matt

 

[MRBANG1]

Madmatts build is solid for a budget rig, i think it will perform well for the money you sink into it, and you got an upgrade path. Later down the road you can upgrade the CPU and get yourself a SSD for some more performance.

 

[tec123]

Madmatts build is solid for a budget rig, i think it will perform well for the money you sink into it, and you got an upgrade path. Later down the road you can upgrade the CPU and get yourself a SSD for some more performance.

Ok thats great, think ill be purchasing tonight, just a few more questions and you's probably are like WTF is he on about but, WIth the board youve picked matt has 2 ram slots, whats the diffrence between that and Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H for the extra 5 pound for the Gigabyte, am i still better with yours? Also would i be better with the Asus RX 460 in the first build i had for the extra 10 pound?

So just to say i Didnt mind spending 400 is there anything you would change matt?

 

[madmatt30]

The pentium is a far better 'CPU' than that a10.
& yes it puts you on a kaby lake platform meaning any i5/i7 released in the last & the next 2 years will drop straight in.

For 2 years the amd apu's were the low budget kings , the release of those hyper threaded pentiums not long ago changed all that.

I would swap the pau for that corsair cxm450 you had in your first build , for £6 more its just a rock solid option with a 5 year warranty.
It'll also power just about any future CPU/GPU combination you could care to think of.

 

[madmatt30]

A 2gb 460 is a 2gb 460 mate , for a tenner less stick with the gigabyte one - its a good model.

Boards ?? Yeah maybe go with a 4 slot board mate unless you can afford 16gb (2 x 8gb sticks) now ??

 

[tec123]

A 2gb 460 is a 2gb 460 mate , for a tenner less stick with the gigabyte one - its a good model.

Boards ?? Yeah maybe go with a 4 slot board mate unless you can afford 16gb (2 x 8gb sticks) now ??

Ok brilliant, I dont really understand the Boards tbh, is there not much diffrence apart from it allowing 4 ram slots?

 

[captaincharisma]

A 2gb 460 is a 2gb 460 mate , for a tenner less stick with the gigabyte one - its a good model.

Boards ?? Yeah maybe go with a 4 slot board mate unless you can afford 16gb (2 x 8gb sticks) now ??

Ok brilliant, I dont really understand the Boards tbh, is there not much diffrence apart from it allowing 4 ram slots?

a 4 slot motherboard will give you a better upgrade path if you want to add more ram plus it will not have to work as hard as a 2 slot motherboard where you would have all ram slots filled which will extend the life of the board

 

[madmatt30]

^ no mate none , you'll be using the video outputs on the 460 for dual screens anyway.

Little bit off kilter here mate (& there is a proper sales section here )

BUT

I have a brand new sealed i5 6500 retail sat here which I'm not going to be using I don't think.
If you're interested at all £110 delivered & its yours.

No presssure there mate but its being sold anyway so thought you may be interested.

 

[tec123]

^ no mate none , you'll be using the video outputs on the 460 for dual screens anyway.

Little bit off kilter here mate (& there is a proper sales section here )

BUT

I have a brand new sealed i5 6500 retail sat here which I'm not going to be using I don't think.
If you're interested at all £110 delivered & its yours.

No presssure there mate but its being sold anyway so thought you may be interested.

Is that alot better than Genitum G4560?

 

[madmatt30]

Well its a £180-190 true quad core so yep its most definitely better.

Issue - no receipt , bought 6 from a trade fayre , used 5 , kept one for myself & then never got round to using it because I was waiting for ryzen

 

[tec123]

Well its a £180-190 true quad core so yep its most definitely better.

Issue - no receipt , bought 6 from a trade fayre , used 5 , kept one for myself & then never got round to using it because I was waiting for ryzen

Thanks for the offer, but i was hoping to get it all picked up tomorrow i know its a bargin but

Ive put together this list using a few alternatives i think the rams slightly faster just because its all in stock at Aria, rather than ordering from lots of diffrent companys, I think ill save in shipping.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£55.20 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£69.24 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£64.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.92 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£89.94 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£32.88 @ Aria PC)
Total: £356.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Does that look right to you or is there anything i should switch it for?, Im buying case from a local store found one i like

 

[tec123]

Well its a £180-190 true quad core so yep its most definitely better.

Issue - no receipt , bought 6 from a trade fayre , used 5 , kept one for myself & then never got round to using it because I was waiting for ryzen

Or am i best just buying from all diffrent supliers