Haswell CPU's (4th gen intel) thoughts?

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The long and short of it is...No. Haswell, especially for a gaming rig, does not offer anything IB didn't already offer. It even draws more power than IB! So, save your money, buy an IB i5/i7 and be done with it. You could also look at AMD too, they have some nice hardware out there as well. :)
 
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Wrong, in one of these other threads, I posted benchmarks showing overall system draw with same components only CPU/MB different and Haswell draws more power overall and just the CPU.
 
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It isn't much of a performance increase, but it's something!
The new chipset also has some nice features.
I have been waiting for Haswell for a month now since I decided to get a gaming PC.
The performance increase isn't big, but still it has some nice features and it performs a little better in games.
I'll be pairing a 4670K with a 780, so I won't have to upgrade for some time.
The comment that you should get IB over Haswell is stupid IMO.
Just get a Haswell cpu and you'll be good for a couple of years.
 
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As David Ramsy put it in his review
"If you're building a new rig from scratch, sure, go with Haswell, as its minor price increase can be justified if you consider all the plusses: the performance, if only slightly better than Ivy Bridge, still makes it the fastest consumer CPU available; and there are a few more USB 3.0 and SATA 6G ports, and so forth. And, unless you find a sale going on, there's no reason to put money into the end-of-life LGA1155 platform. But if you're currently running an LGA1155 setup, there's certainly no compelling reason to upgrade to Haswell. "

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1159&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=14
 
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Its worthwhile for a mobile platform.

For desktop enthusiasts (particularly in overclocking), the benefit over the previous generation is miniscule if at all existent. Same goes comparing Sandy vs. Ivy.

With AMD in its dust, and desktop enthusiasts being such a small percentage of the market, Intel just doesn't feel the pressure to provide anything more than lateral improvements for the desktop.

 
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http://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k/page13.html

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The new boards come with a lot more kit than the previous ones did. Each is specific so weigh the Z87 XXX vs the Z77 XXX to get a real idea how this might affect you. Also that graph while showing the 4770K is using more power than the 3770K when it's running flat out is saving more power at idle. Given that scenario unless you're running your system flat out 24/7 you will see savings from the 4770K.
 
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And the average consumer runs prime 95 (or something similar) what percentage of the time... maybe 0.0001% and how much time do they spend in idle ... maybe 50% and other low power states the rest of the time (browsing/video playback). For gaming power consumption is going to be similar +/-15 watts is pretty much the same considering how much variation the mobo can bring.

Its slightly less efficient under load but the difference is really small and its still more power efficient that sandy bridge.
 
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Yes, it is more efficient than SB, however, so is IB.

Many people do not run prime95...but if you were running a rendering rig with IB and another with Haswell, otherwise equal...haswell would draw more power.

Additionally...I read in the Tom's review a few minutes ago...they actually deactivated even more features on the unlocked K series in Haswell. IB K series CPUs actually have more features than the haswell counterparts. This may not matter to some, but a lot of the virtualization features some would use are not on the K series processors (IB had some deactivated anyway, haswell just took the rest of them out all together on K series). Which is funny in and of itself, because in the 2nd Gen Core I- series Intel said more or less..."this is awesome you have to have it!!". So, now they took them out...? Makes sense right?

This die shrink is an all around let down.

 
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I agree with you, the performance gains are really disappointing. Power though is slightly higher (really not going to notice it). Feature segmentation sucks. I won't say haswell is a fail but its definitely lackluster.
 
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People, understand this: A powerful CPU hasn't mattered in a VERY long time now. Everything is moving to GPU co-processing. And guess what? Intel's iGPU is showing ~40% performance gains, and is maybe 80% of what Trinity is currently performing. So Intel did exactly what they had to do.

Its not 2000 anymore, where the CPU is doing ~90% of the processing load. GPU's drive performance, and Intel is responding by, *gasp*, making their GPU component better. Meanwhile, performance is up 10%, strictly on IPC improvements. Thats not too shabby, all things considered.

I really don't get why people expect 20%+ CPU performance improvements per generation; those days are LONG gone.
 
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